Global Flood explains Oil Deposits and Geological layers

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah, a wooden box less than half the size of the Titanic to house all the animals in the world x2, maybe it was a Scrodingers box? All the animals were dead inside till Noah looked??

A well produced and entertaining documentary that answers all your questions presented in this thread

a reply to: cooperton

Nah more so just stop teaching the atheist creation myth in school. If you can't teach intelligent design, then we shouldn't teach unintelligent design. The moment we can demonstrate an organism evolving in a lab, then we can define it as science and teach it in school. They even artificially selected over 75,000 generations of E. Coli in a lab and it is showing no signs of being capable of becoming anything besides E. Coli. This clearly shows even a microbe can't evolve into a different microbe.

You always say this e-coli stuff without a shred of proof. There is no “atheist creation myth” since atheism isn’t a unified belief system. It’s merely the lack of belief in god(s). Atheists beliefs will vary greatly person to person.

Further, evolution does not tackle the origin of life. Evolution explains the diversity of life. The origin of life is a separate question.

It also has absolutely nothing to do with this fictional global flood.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Sorry son I've not got a spare 3 and a half hours to waste on nonsensical tripe and twaddle videos that promote and support impossible religious tales.

It's 4 days before Christmas ffs people are shall we say busy with reality.

So if you could simply summarise or point to the interesting parts you feel are relevant that might be nice.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Sorry son I've not got a spare 3 and a half hours to waste on nonsensical tripe and twaddle videos that promote and support impossible religious tales.

It's 4 days before Christmas ffs people are shall we say busy with reality.

So if you could simply summarise or point to the interesting parts you feel are relevant that might be nice.

From the outset it begins to answer every strawman argument presented in this thread.
From the architecture, building products, size, compartmentalization of all animals, 6 of each(not 2), etc.
And it in well produced.

But you do seem to have 2-3 X 3.5 hours just clowning others each day on this site.
This video is a cure for the ignorance spouted in this thread where most replies are only attempts at ridicule others I attempts to make the posters the topic.
Ignorance is bliss.
Stay ignorant my friend.
It is easier than using critical thought and challenging your own presuppositions

I personally enjoy the engineering aspects addressed in the documentary

a reply to: cooperton

How about horse evolution where the fossilised remains of horses show a clear sequence of forms over time, from small, multi-toed ancestors to the larger, single-toed horses we are familiar with today and is indeed a progression that is well-documented in the fossil records.

Or the evolution of Whales another compelling example.

Fossils of ancient whale ancestors show a transition from land-dwelling to fully aquatic forms. And the sequence includes species with progressively more specialised adaptations for life in the water, illustrating a clear progression over time.

We have the transition of fish to tetrapods(four-limbed vertebrates) that also evident in the fossil records.

Fossils like "Tiktaalik" represent a transitional form between fish and tetrapods, displaying characteristics of both.

Ammonite evolution where the extinct marine mollusks, provide an example of evolution within a particular group.

The fossil record of ammonites shows a clear progression of shell shapes and structures over millions of years, reflecting evolutionary changes within this group of organisms.

And last but not least fossilised plant remains which also exhibit a progression over time.

As an example, the evolution of land plants from forms to more complex vascular plants with seeds is documented in the fossil record.

Yeah, Humans did not walk nor coexist with dinosaurs.

The time gap between the extinction of non-avian dinosaurs and the appearance of anatomically modern humans is vast.

Dinosaurs went extinct around 65 million years ago at the end of the "Cretaceous Period".

Humans, as a distinct species, only emerged relatively recently in the "Cenozoic Era", during the "Pleistocene" epoch.

Therefore, there is no overlap in the timelines of dinosaurs and modern humans.

But again choose to believe as you please as it changes nothing and certainly not the facts and evidence or for that matter the fossil records.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

So please summarise then and provide the appropriate time stamps to support your delusional way of thinking regarding your 3-and-a-half-hour opinion piece.

As to the "Stay ignorant my friend" comment.

I'm not your friend.........buddy.

And that's what we call projection on your part.

As to what you personally enjoy that would be picking and choosing pseudoscience and religious mungo jumbo to fit and forward your own agenda.

Have a nice day.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
This video is a cure for the ignorance spouted in this thread ...

I posted facts. Irrefutable facts. So irrefutable, that those facts still have not been addressed. Here's a refresher of just one of the facts I presented that went unanswered.

The Noahs Ark flood was supposedly approximately 2345 B.C. The following Links give the basics of each of the Ancient Egyptian Dynasties of that era and their approximate time periods. No break in their cultures during the alleged Noahs Ark time period. Not before and not afterwards either. Plenty of people and entire 'dynasties' during a time when only a handful of people speaking the language of Noah were supposedly on the planet. Oh ... and the artifacts are all in the same language so the 'the world all spoke one language before the Tower of Babel' is proven false too, but that's the topic for another thread.

The Fourth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2613 BC–ca. 2494 BC - The Fourth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty IV) is characterized as a "golden age" of the Old Kingdom of Egypt. Dynasty IV lasted from c. 2613 to 2494 BC.[1] It was a time of peace and prosperity as well as one during which trade with other countries is documented.

The Fifth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

The Fifth Dynasty pharaohs reigned for approximately 150 years, from the early 25th century BC until the mid 24th century BC.

The Sixth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2345 BC–c. 2181 BC - The Sixth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty VI), along with the Third, Fourth and Fifth Dynasty, constitutes the Old Kingdom of Dynastic Egypt.

The Seventh Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

 2181 BC

The Eighth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2181 BC–ca. 2160 BC - The Eighth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty VIII) is a poorly known and short-lived line of pharaohs reigning in rapid succession in the early 22nd century BC, likely with their seat of power in Memphis.

The Ninth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2160 BC–c. 2130 BC - The Ninth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty IX) is often combined with the 7th, 8th, 10th and early 11th Dynasties under the group title First Intermediate Period.

The Tenth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2130 BC–ca. 2040 BC - The Tenth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty X) is often combined with the 7th, 8th, 9th and early 11th Dynasties under the group title First Intermediate Period

Egypts 11th Dynasty

The Eleventh Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty XI; c. 2150 BC – c. 1991 BC) is a well-attested group of rulers. Its earlier members before Pharaoh Mentuhotep II are grouped with the four preceding dynasties to form the First Intermediate Period, whereas the later members are considered part of the Middle Kingdom. They all ruled from Thebes in Upper Egypt.

The Twelfth Dynasy of Ancient Egypt

The chronology of the Twelfth Dynasty is the most stable of any period before the New Kingdom. The Turin Royal Canon gives 213 years (1991–1778 BC).

originally posted by: Ohanka
You always say this e-coli stuff without a shred of proof.

link

73,000 subsequent generations (probably nearing 80,000 by now), and no news of E. Coli evolving into something else. The initial adaptations quickly plateau'd, which is a sign that these adaptations are mere epigenetic mechanisms. If evolution were occurring the changes would persist rather than plateau. keep in mind 75,000 generations is equivalent to 1.5 million years of hominid evolution. Yet were supposed to believe a chimp-like creature's ancestry evolved 400,000 miles of neural circuitry in 5 million years?

There is no “atheist creation myth” since atheism isn’t a unified belief system. It’s merely the lack of belief in god(s). Atheists beliefs will vary greatly person to person.

The currently taught theory insists upon the lack of a god in the origin of humankind. That is the atheist creation mythos.

Further, evolution does not tackle the origin of life. Evolution explains the diversity of life. The origin of life is a separate question.

Yeah I am aware of the difference. Abiogenesis is not possible for a multitude of reasons. If it were, we would have been able to show it in a lab. But it very starkly defies precise thermodynamic laws that prevent that creation of amino acid and RNA polymers

It also has absolutely nothing to do with this fictional global flood.

Yeah just fictional mythos of frogs turning into princes with a good ol' kiss from lady luck.

a reply to: FlyersFan



I mean there are flood tales and legends throughout recorded history.

Why some people have to take Noah's tale so literally is quite frankly beyond me.

It's not like it detracts or takes away anything from the other associated and assorted parables should it not have went down verbatim to the tale in the book.

And another thing, how come only Noah had a boat/ark?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FlyersFan

I mean there are flood tales and legends throughout recorded history.

Why some people have to take Noah's tale so literally is quite frankly beyond me.

It's not like it detracts or takes away anything from the other associated and assorted parables should it not went down verbatim to the notion.

And another thing, how come only Noah had a boat/ark?

It is possible the Bible left out key details, but the over-arching theme from the multitude of global flood accounts insists it was in fact global and destroyed mostly all of the creatures on earth. The Incans believe the reason that Llamas hangout on mountaintops is because they still have generational PTSD from the flood that forced them to the mountaintops. The main thing here is that the global flood happened, more so than the nit-picky details. I do like though going over how many of these claims in the Hebrew account are actually possible, even without a "miracle".

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I posted facts. Irrefutable facts. So irrefutable, that those facts still have not been addressed. Here's a refresher of just one of the facts I presented that went unanswered.

I asked you to find an example where it was the actual Egyptians giving the dates in the records, rather than archaeologists.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
No. Everything I posted is correct. The science and archeology is solid

The archaeology is about as solid as your spelling of "archeology". How can we trust you have proper discretion when you can't properly spell the field you are referring to? You're just another blind believer. Prove me wrong and find where Egyptians date their own culture through the timeframe of the flood.

originally posted by: andy06shake
And another thing, how come only Noah had a boat/ark?

Noahs Ark as described would have been half the size of the titanic. People back then simply didn't have the ship building skills to make something that big. AND it is absolutely impossible for Noah and his three sons to do something that big all by themselves. It would have taken so long that whole sections of the ship would have rotted away before they could get to the next parts.

There were much smaller vessels but nothing even remotely close to Noahs Ark size as described.

a reply to: cooperton

I would have gone more with copied key details myself cooperton.

Its all rinse and repeat you see these organised religious practices.

And at heart never about Son worship but more along the lines of Sun worship.

Again there is no evidence to suggest a global flood took place any time during the existence of humans here on Earth.

And you are going to be rather hard-pushed to present tangible evidence to suggest otherwise.

Got to go wrap some gifts now buddy but you crack on, i don't mind conversing with you, the other one not so much.

a reply to: cooperton

It is possible the Bible left out key details,

I thought you were saying this was a book of facts and proof?

Yet demand all the missing info over the 4.5 billion years of Earhs history, I've never meet such a hipocrate on the site.

originally posted by: cooperton
I asked you to find an example where it was the actual Egyptians giving the dates in the records, rather than archaeologists.

And I told you that Egyptians didn't have a calendar with days, weeks, months, and years counting like that. And that's IRRELEVANT. Archaeologists and scientists are able to date it. NO break in the Egyptian culture. NO wipe out of Egypt. It all remained in tact and grew.

The archaeology is about as solid as your spelling of "archeology".

Oh grow up. It's a typo because I'm typing so fast.


The information is solid. You can't the facts of it.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Noah and his three sons to do something that big all by themselves. It would have taken so long that whole sections of the ship would have rotted away before they could get to the next parts.

Naw God would have treated the timber with angel juice surely?

And 500-year-old raging alcoholic makes good?

a reply to: cooperton

The archaeology is about as solid as your spelling of "archeology"

You're stooping very low now, picking apart someones spelling?

You're just another blind believer

And yet here you are telling us enough magic water come out of Gods arse to flood the world higher than Everest, and then magically disappear...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FlyersFan

I mean there are flood tales and legends throughout recorded history.

Why some people have to take Noah's tale so literally is quite frankly beyond me.

It's not like it detracts or takes away anything from the other associated and assorted parables should it not have went down verbatim to the tale in the book.

And another thing, how come only Noah had a boat/ark?

Indeed. All the story really does is show that God is an evil, sadistic, mass murderer of the innocent.

Oh, someone did something I don't like? Lets wipe out 99.9999% of all life in the Universe. Even Thanos only wanted to wipe out 50%, and for far more logical reasons.

(Obviously the story is just a children's bed-time fairy tale, but hey, if people want to believe in Snow White, I suppose we should let them. Just don't let them ban mirrors and apples because of it!)

China ... unbroken historical record all through the Noahs Flood time period.
NO WORLD WIDE FLOOD

Emperor Yao
2356 – 2255 BCE are the accepted dates for him.

He went on to become mythological in stature becoming demi-gods in Chinese tradition. During Emperor Yao's reign it is recorded that there were great floods. The rivers overflowed and there was great destruction. But they survived and the culture went on.

Then came the Xia Dynasty 2100–1600 B.C.E
PLENTY of Chinese people around to create a dynasty and a whole people to rule over.

During this time, there is archeological and historical evidence of the Longshan culture flourishing in north-east China. 3000 BCE - c. 1700 BCE. READ HERE .

The Longshan culture developed from the early Dawenkou tradition, also in Shandong province, from around 3000 BCE, and would then replace the well-established Yangshao culture in northern and central China. By the first quarter of the 2nd millennium BCE the Longshan culture, after experiencing some centuries of population decline for as yet unknown reasons, began to evolve into the Bronze age culture which would eventually form the Shang dynasty (c. 1600-1046 BCE).

The frequent raised mounds within the walls at Longshan settlements and the presence of dwellings outside its perimeter suggest that only the elite residences were thus protected. At the even larger site of Taosi, which dates to 2600-2000 BCE, the wall encloses some 2.8 million square metres. Taosi includes cave and semi-subterranean dwellings, as well as a wall-enclosed cemetery. Although all tombs are located in the same ground, they indicate at least three distinct social levels.

originally posted by: Kurokage

You're stooping very low now, picking apart someones spelling?

Come on! They literally said the archeology was solid. How do you know the archaeology is solid if you haven't been studying it long enough to know how to spell it?

And yet here you are telling us enough magic water come out of Gods arse to flood the world higher than Everest, and then magically disappear...

No the water is in the mantle, there's likely even more that hasn't been detected yet. If it was able to come out it would have no problem going back in.