Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

John F Burroughs
I will clarify one other question that has come up. In my statement I stated the following. After we had our first encounter we passed the farmers house which should be correctly ID as cottages and saw a beacon which we did follow. I stated we went about 2 miles and were able to ID it as a lighthouse. When I went back in 2014 I talked about this with Gordy Goodger and Brenda Butler. I later talked with Ronnie Dugdale about this. What I told them was this I remember being with ED we came up to a hill climb the hill and saw the coast to include a waterway and the light house. They said that had to be Burrow hill which is over 5 miles away. When I went back this time we went to the hill. When I climbed to the top it was the place I remember being at.

Update.

Right now, it looks as if it is 2-1 to there NOT being a craft witnessed.

Ed and John 2, Jim Penniston 1.

The way the World Cup is playing out, I will take these odds.

Which then goes back Kirtland etc touched upon earlier.

A DEW involving radar and (targeting?) plasma?

Very much looking forward to hearing what will be said on the show.

Tea time.

(Witness name withheld)

I was riding my motorcycle dirtbike one day it was a 250 Suzuki. And I went down the road behind Eastgate and I started puttering around back in the woods when I saw an old cottage it was a pretty good size cottage with vines growing up on the side of it. I returned on my motorcycle several times after that they determined to investigate the house but I never found it again which I thought was very strange in that small area. I know that I shared with you in the past about my experience on duty one day when the vehicles all pulled up and ascended into the woods and they were all wearing laboratory type clothing. Then a major drove up to my post and told me not to worry about them that they were all cleared and this was before the incident. 🍺🍺

a reply to: AdamE

Good. He needs to pay attention. Although I am also sure he has done.



Unless someone can come up with names of witnesses, the exact building that was there and then allegedly vanished and something solid and factual to explain why this was never big news in Suffolk and the UK In 1980 then I'd suggest he should grill his co-host more often. Let's face it he doesn't even know and he was based there in 1980!!

Linda is partial to telling porkie pies and he just lets it all ride past him. I've illustrated a number of times how she's introduced ridiculous claims into their radio show at totally inopportune times with their guest(s). Lizards on the moon seen by astronauts (how?) and the Santilli Alien Autopsy was real (no it wasn't!) are just a couple of recent ones. There are many more.

I'm sure John is well aware of his co-host's habits, her strange rapid blink rate, robotic speech patterns and tendency to promote crap on their radio programme. However I also suspect that he is full aware shady 'people' in the background who program her. Currently this is a problem.

There is a pattern that has developed down the years for sure. I am positive he's worked much of it all out. People he thought were there to help were actually there to control him. It's now all about the timing to expose the lies and deception. That time is not right just now. Keep your fiends close and all that certainly applies.

But the time will be right one day. He'll know it when that time comes! Then he can let loose.

Linda should start blinking faster in the meantime and worrying about her word pronunciation as well. She's an old lady and her faculties are not what they once were. She will continue to slip up until one day she no longer serves a purpose.

I also have issues with Linda but she was not there.

a reply to: mirageman

Linda and John are like glue together. Keep digging.

a reply to: ctj83

Yes I have seen thanks Ctj83.

a reply to: mirageman

Linda should start blinking faster in the meantime and worrying about her word pronunciation as well. She's an old lady and her faculties are not what they once were. She will continue to slip up until one day she no longer serves a purpose.

And, “Boom goes the dynamite!”

a reply to: mirageman

MirageMan...

I fear you are missing a crucial piece of the (porkie) pie...
A very VERY reputable source, who I have known since Dinosaurs travelled through the abyss has just told something he heard from a guy, (my contact's name is Molten Lava Howard), and this dude my contact knows has irrefutable evidence of a man who traveled from, wait for it, January, 1981 to June, 1981, in JUST SIX MONTHS!

Yes, it's true(!).

I know this shatters your skeptical mind and may cause you to have an irritable bowel because it also shatters your world view, but, you simply can't argue with Quantum Physics shattering FACTS!

All that (brilliance) said,I am not available for media interviews at this time because my friend wants privacy and, frankly, anyone who can move through the time/space equium like that deserves his privacy!

Not knowing when it is can be painful me old mucker!

a reply to: mirageman

I leave the thread for one afternoon and look what you've done MM, John has got directly involved and nancys bungalow has disappeared lol.

I mean really... Jeez...

Disappearing houses and other things like that are nothing to do with the rendlesham incident and sound just like urban legend in the local area that's getting mixed in with a whisk for God knows what reasons. I thought the USAF wanted visual cloaking for their hypersonic platforms, not old nancys bungalow!

Where I grew up we played in the local woods and apparently if you went there on the anniversary of a woman's death, you could hear a chain rattle, the very chain that was used to kill her. It was complete nonsense and a story based in zero fact but passed down kids to kids to scare eachother. Totally unsubstantiated, very much with the disappearing house.

Believe it or not I was at the download festival a few years back and due to disorientation I totally lost the main stage, not through drink mind. It was so totally confusing at the time, there is usually a simple explanation for most things, simply in very similar surroundings we had walked more than we thought.

Using an unknown source, about an unknown location and.... You know what this is making me laugh and angry at the same time.

So many people in ufology have made 180 about turns of late, some i really look up to, well I did. This isn't us brits sticking together or blowing smoke up MM'S behind, but he is one of the stars on here and should be listened to on most subjects.

LMH...don't get me started

a reply to: pigsy2400

Disappearing houses and other things like that are nothing to do with the rendlesham incident and sound just like urban legend in the local area

Exactly. Why is it being forced into the Rendlesham story? There is no proof of any such thing happening and there are too many lies that have been added on as the years pass. There are far too many people passing themselves off as researchers or investigators in this field. But they never resolve anything. They just build on the mythology.

Richard Doty, a man who has done his own such groundwork on the topic, has even told Jimmy Church that there are two people in the field that he (Church) knows that are purposely disinfo agents. Now we all know Richard Doty's track record. However Jimmy Church actually mentioned this to Linda Molten Howitzer on his radio show last month.



To jump to the approx. location directly : Click here

Her answer is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard. She sidesteps the question by saying she doesn't trust any counter intelligence people and then launches into the longest, irrelevant answer to a question I've ever heard. She basically retells the story of her career. Like that was important or even relevant to the question and it continues for over 10 minutes into a commercial break.

After that it continues with her stating that she was glad to talk tonight because she was given the chance to go into some of her background.

in the sense that it all was even in a to be..err. Just forver a mainstream journalist and that is the context in which err it was suggested that I go and talk with Sherriff Tex Graves...

Link : youtu.be...

I'm not advising anyone to waste their time listening to her waffle. But Jimmy Church never once asked her about her to give him a verbal CV. But she carries on by not letting him ask further questions.

Now this isn't proof that she is one of Doty's disinfo agents but it is proof that she was uncomfortable with Church mentioning it. It was like a hypnotic trigger for her to talk incessantly. I'd leave people to draw their own conclusions but having seen the comments on that Youtube video it's probably pointless.

Anyway the good news is that she wasn't on John's show last night although I haven't had time to listen. There are more important things going on in Russia!

a reply to: Springer

Brahahaha!!!

I had to read it 3 times, but once I saw what you were doing it became hilarious 😂

You’ve definitely got Molten Lava Howard’s diction down.

a reply to: mirageman

three were US nukes all over the place during the cold war and even to this day, I'm not sure if they are there RIGHT now but we even keep nukes in Turkey so the UK is a pretty much guaranteed to have US nukes on site during the cold war, no shocker there....but not something i would advertise all over the place.



in one way the DoD and Co. awarding damages and disability to Burroughs might be a way to hand wave something more secret and the damages associated with whatever that is. With his case won and im sure a contract signed not to mention him worrying about losing the benefits he won, he stopped pushing it.


i wonder what the JCOS have been briefed on and what their beliefs are.

I see David Bryant mentioned , the meteor man. Did he not take a photo of a green alien in the forest?

a reply to: penroc3

in one way the DoD and Co. awarding damages and disability to Burroughs might be a way to hand wave something more secret and the damages associated with whatever that is. With his case won and im sure a contract signed not to mention him worrying about losing the benefits he won, he stopped pushing it.

I am glad you raise this point that keeps being overlooked.

Damage/liability caused by the tech used to bring down sat 1227 that broke up over 3 or 4 nights.

The kind of tech that creates plasma that can be steered.

John disappeared the first night, after coming in contact with this plasma and ended up on the hill. (As John has recently mentioned)

I suggest the beacon was the plasma on the end of a radar beam that coupled with John at a quantum level.

The communication thing he spoke of, means, imo that John travelled along this communication line in a sense similar to a ball of plasma travelling along an overhead cable.

As John Alexander article said, Beam me up Spock!

In this instance I think is where appearing and disappearing may apply.

(Invisibility was also highlighted in Project Beta by Greg Bishop but in a sense of Gov and defense facilities being invisible when photographed from the ground or air, but not to the eye in his case).

This is my opinion after hearing the show. I have no time to highlight the errors in Linda's ways as I have eyes and ears just like everyone else. This, like some of Linda's actions also plays a part in distracting people from what else was spoken about in the show.

a reply to: AdamE

Had a look at David Clarke's FOIA documents acknowledging ASTRA was flying over the UK?

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: AdamE

Had a look at David Clarke's FOIA documents acknowledging ASTRA was flying over the UK?

Hi ctj83. Your question relates to this I believe.

The acronym UAPs – unidentified aerial phenomena – was used by the Defence Intelligence branch DI55 as a neat cover for their UFO investigations until his ‘definitive’ report, delivered in 2000, recommended they should discontinue their interest in the subject. In his UK Restricted minute ‘Wrap Up of UAP Material’ dated 22 March 2000 the report’s author – a retired RAF scientist – refers to a collection of slides and photographs that he consulted in the MoD’s archive. The UK Restricted memo that refers to a D-Notice issued in the 1990s on the Astra/Aurora project These contained images of the ‘ASTRA/AURORA‘ project – a top secret, hypersonic Cold War spyplane. The author goes on to note ‘there was a Press D-Notice issued at the time‘. This is the first solid evidence to emerge that refers to the involvement of the former D-Notice committee in the Aurora saga.

drdavidclarke.co.uk...

a reply to: AdamE

Yes. Fun fact. 40% of Soviet era documents on Stealth quoted Bill Sweetman at Jane's defence weekly. He was often the writing partner of Aerospace editor at Janes' - Nick Cook. Cook was researching ASTRA when he suddenly got diverted by Rendlesham / Bawdsey based scientist Dr Markus.

Is it related? I'm not sure. It does mean Cook was right about the existence of ASTRA he just never got to prove it because he was sent after a Nazi Bell and Boyd Bushman.

No one ever asks why the UK had RAF pilots training on the F117A during testing. Or about the proposed 117B.

If the UK's role in stealth, has been stealthy, it's fair to assume that this technology was being developed around the RFI.

a reply to: AdamE

Do you have any tracking data for the descent of that craft?

The scientist Keech refers to is Dr Bond, of Hotol fame according to Jenny Randles. I believe shes written this in her books, but she was kind enough to confirm in my APEN thread I believe.

Also, do you know of anything written about the soviet agent apparently captured in the woods around the time of the event?