Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: mirageman

What about BBs alleged binary. Supposedly starting in 1979 . Might as well bring that one up too.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

What about BBs alleged binary. Supposedly starting in 1979 . Might as well bring that one up too.

It's either TRUE or FALSE.

originally posted by: mirageman

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

What about BBs alleged binary. Supposedly starting in 1979 . Might as well bring that one up too.

It's either TRUE or FALSE.

*eye roll*

Half of your responses are attempts at subtle humor,
or humor that would fly over the heads of us yanks
in any case.

a reply to: mirageman

Ralph Noyes wrote about him extensively. Wendell wrote some.

The guy clearly existed. Was blonde, likely born in Feb 18th 1943. American.

Met Wendell in prison and went on and on about Billy Myers.

Turns up at Dot Streets Home after Skycrash and somehow persuades her to let him live there. Has a passport at a Priest at the U.K. angloCatholic church in london.

Carried a Notebook with a map, a network of portals that match at least some of the locations in Pennistons binary code. The small notebook also had symbols in that we’ve seen before and code.

Then lives with Brenda.

Then hassles Noyes. Noyes leaves ufology.

My point being - this guy begins on the trail of Billy Myers. Wendell Stephens alledgedly gets and RFI report which is seen only by him and Doty???

Then comes to the U.K. with a notebook that is the first example of at least some of what is in Jim Pennistons notebook.

Was the guy paranormal or alien? I’m convinced not.

Yet, he seems to have RFI materials that have determined the focus of the RFI for years.

Part of a reilgous group, a contacted cult or a spook?

Whoever he was he messed up the RFI to a large degree.

TLDR; weird guy pretends to be alien and has small notebook with RFI symbols and binary code locations in. During the mid 80s...

For what it's worth, I see no functional difference between receiving
'binary code' from purportedly touching a craft, or 'channeling', or
via 'dreams' or any other methodology.

And given the parties involved and the physics and biology involved,
actually receiving 'accurate and useful' binary code is close to
zero, in the best of cases.

IMHO.

"Binary Code" is lipstick smeared rather artlessly on a pig.

a reply to: ctj83

I find it interesting that he was blonde.

Those caste of the chinese/gypsies with the highest social
status are blondes.. but I digress.

I'd say that David Daniels was an occultist, with an occultist
agenda to insert his own narrative into RFI, so that the
could control it.

I don't know if he was a theosophist or a crowly person..
there aren't a lot of other choices.. it usually boils down
to one of those two.

Every single step of UFOlogy, to this very day... and I mean
all the way to TTSA is thoroughly infested with the
participation of occult groups and philosophies.. and as
I know some of these people personally.. I'm not
exaggerating.

Now I can't say about RFI... I'm just discussing a general
tendency that started in the 1800's and was first noticed
with Adamski and others of that time.

Kev

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: mirageman

Ralph Noyes wrote about him extensively. Wendell wrote some.

The guy clearly existed. Was blonde, likely born in Feb 18th 1943. American.

Met Wendell in prison and went on and on about Billy Myers.

Turns up at Dot Streets Home after Skycrash and somehow persuades her to let him live there. Has a passport at a Priest at the U.K. angloCatholic church in london.

Carried a Notebook with a map, a network of portals that match at least some of the locations in Pennistons binary code. The small notebook also had symbols in that we’ve seen before and code.

Then lives with Brenda.

Then hassles Noyes. Noyes leaves ufology.

My point being - this guy begins on the trail of Billy Myers. Wendell Stephens alledgedly gets and RFI report which is seen only by him and Doty???

Then comes to the U.K. with a notebook that is the first example of at least some of what is in Jim Pennistons notebook.

Was the guy paranormal or alien? I’m convinced not.

Yet, he seems to have RFI materials that have determined the focus of the RFI for years.

Part of a reilgous group, a contacted cult or a spook?

Whoever he was he messed up the RFI to a large degree.

TLDR; weird guy pretends to be alien and has small notebook with RFI symbols and binary code locations in. During the mid 80s...

Would this be the same gentleman?

a reply to: AdamE

I have no idea myself.

But I will say this..

the "Stargate Conspiracy" people worship the Ennead..
or "the Nine".

As that David was a co-founder of this group:

www.enneagramworldwide.com...

Since their system is named similarly AND since I read
the word "embodiment" associated with their system..

(and embodiment is code for "occult")

I'd be highly surprised if there wasn't a dark nasty layer
underneath their soft, fluffy surface layer.

But I don't know.

PS:

Our friends the Christians have some of the best dirt
on occult groups.. (they are way overblown wrong,
but still.. gotta admire their motivaiton!)

www.christiananswersforthenewage.org...

It looks like David you found is indeed down and drity into the occult,
or at least a lot of people believe that they are.

a reply to: AdamE

He's the wrong age. I've had someone else in mind who I think I was wrong about, but I don't think it's fair to name anyone without concrete proof.

Whoever he was he certainly wanted to interfere with the Rendlesham Forest Incident. From what I can see he did.

Then we have the two compromised Ufology people, spoken about by Moore, Doty and more recently another person. Did they play a roll?

The thing with Daniels is that we have written commentary from the former head of Defense Secretariat 8, Ralph Noyes, and there is probably, somewhere an official record of him meeting Lord Hill Norton.

Whoever this guy was, he ruffled the feathers of the British establishment.

All I can see is the mess.

By the way, the 'other' illustration you posted of the vehicle, looks a LOT more like a small aircraft, doesn't it?

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: AdamE

He's the wrong age. I've had someone else in mind who I think I was wrong about, but I don't think it's fair to name anyone without concrete proof.

Whoever he was he certainly wanted to interfere with the Rendlesham Forest Incident. From what I can see he did.

Then we have the two compromised Ufology people, spoken about by Moore, Doty and more recently another person. Did they play a roll?

The thing with Daniels is that we have written commentary from the former head of Defense Secretariat 8, Ralph Noyes, and there is probably, somewhere an official record of him meeting Lord Hill Norton.

Whoever this guy was, he ruffled the feathers of the British establishment.

All I can see is the mess.

By the way, the 'other' illustration you posted of the vehicle, looks a LOT more like a small aircraft, doesn't it?

Hi ctj83.

My intent was not to bring anyone into disrepute.

I was following on your brief description and posed a question due to similarities regarding some of my other research into the Esoteric.

You are more aware of this matter than I.

Agreed, this Mr Daniels was born in 1934. So there is an age discrepancy.

a reply to: AdamE

Oh, I know that! I was more meaning I don't want to share the guy I found as I can't prove it. Your guy is MUCH closer than mine apart from age.

Someone wanted to disrupt the RFI very early on.

There is evidence, partly in the bases video you linked, and in Randles 2016 Fortean Times retrospective that two men began investigating the RFI and interviewing people in the forest the day before Steve Roberts told Brenda Butler.

So who could have been in the forest? Well, we know UK ufologist Mr Scharf was out there with his driver interviewing people because he wrote so. on his fascinating blog.

Was he the man mistaken for the men in black (which he found amusing but unintended), or was someone else out in the forest the day before? If someone else was, perhaps they would have told him that he was the second person to visit them? It would be interesting to know.

a reply to: ctj83

Marvelous. I was also clearly reading through my breakfast eyes

What also came to mind was a play on numbers again. 1934 can be shifted to 1943.

Was not Andrew Pike also doing a plasma research project during this time in the area?

a reply to: AdamE

are you sure?

I was wondering if the 43 / 34 was an accidental transposition
on someone's part.

The Dr. Daniels listed here, may he rest in peace, apparently
was into occult geometry too.. if you read the accusations
made about him.

If he's the wrong guy.. well he's an awfully close wrong guy.

I normally don't track Esalen institute types.. I call them
"occult lite". But yah, Ouspensky and Gurdjieff are another
faction too.. I studied them some too when I was young.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

apparently the Sun has solved the RFI

link



*clearly joking*

a reply to: penroc3

Well i'm a big fan of Andrew Pike.

But I've had to admit about a month ago now, that there is
more to RFI and some other incidents than just intelligently
(or non-intelligently) controlled plasmas.

RFI is a very complex affair.. and so muddied that no rational
person could ever say that it's 'solved' in all likelyhood.

I'm hoping that I'll get to continue my research in the near
future.. I'd like to encounter some "chupa chupas" which
I feel are actually physical-ish and see if I can talk some sense
into them.

Of course they might kill me and core out my anus.. but
there will be hell to pay for them if they do that.

Anyway..

Fascinating that Andrew got publicity.. I really have no
idea what his backstory is, that others say they know,
but I don't, as to why he pulled his book.

But I wish him well.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

He's been reading our posts kev lol

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I always wish Andrew well a nice chap.

Goodluck with your chuppy hunting Kev.

As far as the RFI goes well as we all know it is indeed a very complex affair.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'm hoping that I'll get to continue my research in the near future.. I'd like to encounter some "chupa chupas" which I feel are actually physical-ish and see if I can talk some sense into them.

You'll have them licked in no time!!!!



I'll get my coat......

Before I do though.

Anyway.. Fascinating that Andrew got publicity.. I really have no idea what his backstory is, that others say they know, but I don't, as to why he pulled his book.

Let me refresh your memory.

Andrew issued a statement on Feb 10th 2018

It is a particularly long read which is worth delving into....But for brevity here are 3 paragraphs which cover his reluctance to carry on playing the Rendlesham game.

It is a sad fact that the Rendlesham Forest Incident, arguably the most famous UFO case in history, has descended into a toxic mess. It was therefore something of a long struggle on my behalf to decide whether a much sought after, out of print, book of mine on the case should go back into print after being unavailable for twelve years. Deep down I know that is a mistake....

Given the obvious problems of a high profile UFO case and the workings of the military machine, it is therefore no surprise to me that within 24 hours of the 2017 re-release of my updated book to a much wider audience some of the airmen involved in the Rendlesham Forest Incident suddenly wanted to talk to me after years of refusing to do so and there was certainly a sense of both a knee-jerk reaction and to some extent panic in the emails I received out of the blue, this was also true of comments on what I prefer to call (anti) social media. Indeed, to
some it came as a surprise the book had existed at all, with a couple admitting to me by email that they had not even read it but wanted to “explain” certain points! I have little time for such nonsense. What was even more of a surprise is how others managed to read an almost half-a-million word book in 24 hours! That said, the Rendlesham Forest Incident has evolved into a unique creature and one I no longer recognize or like. By 48 hours into publication many of those who ‘orbit’ toxic little gangs of half-a-dozen or so were in hissy fits having also, apparently, claiming to have read the book in full but clearly showing their ignorance of its contents was complete!....

At the end of the day, it is clear noisy negativists who had the knee-jerk reaction of wrongly assuming this book was an attempt to explain away the Rendlesham Forest Incident as nothing but natural ball lightning clearly failed to even read the book. What this case amounts to is a web of connected science and technology feeding off natural and manmade events including plasma atmospherics and a military disinformation machine keen to provide a damage limitation exercise with the help of some ufologists who do too little research and even less thinking....


Source : chris0597.wixsite.com...

a reply to: mirageman

Hah...

The text you posted is interesting, I wonder who he is talking about in reference to the toxic elements

a reply to: mirageman

MM,

I read his letter when it first came out.

However,

I remember when a global death threat was put out
against Salman Rushdie for "satanic verses".. and
that book stayed in print.

I'm sure Andrew has his reasons.. but i don't get it.

Kev