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Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
You need to back off a little and see the world for what it is.
Ooh, I know this answer
a dreamworld that enslaves the base instincts of the inhabitants while corrupting consciousness into little more than a droning consumerist sacrificial slave race...
ok, been watching a bit too much Tsarion as of late...stupid matrix.
[edit on 7-3-2010 by SaturnFX]
Or maybe this is what bothers me more. I guess you need a pretty avatar for the right to be sarcastic and snide. Oh, I am sure this was really meant just to be funny, right? I guess that is why it sucks so much that things are so open to interpretation. I take this as you being a jerk. I did not go out of my way to question your manner of dealing with anyone whether I find a post like this distastefully pointless or not. How about you learn not to tell other people how they should post too, ok?
Now, can we simply have a real discussion about the things being said or would you like to throw some more stones?
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Actually, that was neither sarcasm, nor even directed at you...it is a view that life itself is an illusion...that indeed we are in a sort of matrix, and that everything we know and feel is programmed into us by the master programmers through television, books, religion, etc...
as far as you finding my worldview tasteless...well, frankly, I dont give a sh%^ how you view my views of life.
as far as throwing stones, you cant jump on a stone I put down and claim I threw it at you...your diving for them.
Meh, be offended if that makes you happy, I dont care.
Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Actually, K J, I didn't say that you were wrong in calling us Andromedans. I said that Mr. Collier was wrong in calling those that he is in contact with are Andromedans. That little fact slipped past me until I went back and looked. I suspect that most to all of your so-called contradictions are based on the same kind and degree of misunderstanding.
By the way ... you should read A. Crowley's comments on Truth.
Etharzi od Oma
Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by DrJay1975
Truly laughable! There is no contradiction, only your failure to read and understand. I would suggest you go back and look at everything, but I doubt it would help.
So ... let explain a little here. I have no doubts as to whether I'm Human or not ... I'm not. Unless that nice, tall lady on the starship is a lier. And I have no reason to think she is, or to doubt her.
The evidence is an attempt to show this reality to you and your fellow humans. Unfotrunately, your technology isn't ready yet, or maybe you simply don't want to know the truth.
Why, prey tell, would you need a blood sample?
The MRI and CT scans have already been done, though, neither you or I will likely ever see them. And the psychologist? Been there and done that too. I think you must have missed the part about how your government already knows about who / what I am. Again, read.
Etharzi od Oma.
PS ya know its a shame you're not a real doctor of some sort, you might be of real benefit here.
Originally posted by DrJay1975
Well the blood sample is for a test quite obviously. Raman spectroscopy to be exact. NIR was used to analyze multiple samples of various species which were analyzed and catalouged specificly for species identifacation. All of the spectra were combined into a single data matrix, and the number of principle components that described the system was determined using multiple statistical methods such as significant factor analysis (SFA), principle component analysis (PCA), and several cross-validation methods. I'ts typically used at crimescenes to make a species determination on blood samples. I imagine if there was some sort of government agency trying to verify your species that this would be the 1st test.
And my commentary on the short but thorough evoloution and your attitude is valid. You went from no being sure about your species to positive without any addittional validation. And it evolved into this nonsense.
As far as you being an enlightened individual it seems unlikely. You have a bad attitude and get rather snarky with those who question you rather than support your outlandish claims.
Simple fact is any police station or doctor can validate or disprove your story with this test. So why not put up or shut up? I'm more than happy to arrange it for you. The nice thing is the cost would be more reasonable than these tests you send off for.
Originally posted by DrJay1975
Just for reference Omnipop has 179 different population samples and isn't the most accurate software in the world. We could get quite a few different answers for your tests.
www.dna-fingerprint.com...
I'd also love to see your COI barcode. I could determine your species from that as well.
But on your website you list criteria for a test, I'd like to run my forensic test. I'll take up a collection here. But it will prove your truth or lies beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Originally posted by DrJay1975
Just for reference Omnipop has 179 different population samples and isn't the most accurate software in the world. We could get quite a few different answers for your tests.
www.dna-fingerprint.com...
I'd also love to see your COI barcode. I could determine your species from that as well.
But on your website you list criteria for a test, I'd like to run my forensic test. I'll take up a collection here. But it will prove your truth or lies beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I looked into their database ... no matches were found. It also appeared to be rather small. The databases I've been using are all rather extensive.
Etharzi od Oma.
Originally posted by DrJay1975
My question is why your opposed to a test that will conclusively prove you aren't human. An incomplee dataset is irrelevant. I don't need to see if you are a dog, cat or a horse. I just need to determine if your blood is human. And It will determine if you are human or something else. 99.9+% effective. Far more conclusive than your mail in dna test. If you don't have to pay for it what's the big deal? If i's good enough for every law enforcement agency in the country to determine if a blood sample is human then it should be good enough for you. You offer yourself for testing on your website. Why run from it now? I think I know the answer. Let's either validate your claims or put it them to bed forever. I'm more than happy to arrange a forensics professional in your area to administer the test. We can even use a control group. We can have a technician draw blood from 2 known humans a dog and a cat along with you. Cmon
And It will determine if you are human or something else. 99.9+% effective.
Didn't you say that the doctors used omnipop? Are you now saying that was an incorrect statement?
Anoher question. I read on another site that your moher was 90 light years away and it would ake her about 2 hours to travel that distance. If she's the lead negotiater I imagine she'd be traveling at close to max speed on her return. So is 45 light years per hour the maximum speed of her ship? Elaborate a bit on the propulsion system as well if you please. How long it took o travel from andromeda to here, etc....
Also if you check Burke's Peerage then you'll see direct links between your scottish royal line and Indian Royalty. There is your link between the 2.
Originally posted by DrJay1975
And no offense but the website you used to search for your haplotype, well it took me about 5 minutes to punch in numbers that produced a duplicate result. I disagree that the results you produce prove with a 99% probability you are indeed alien. We have no way to determine if the markers are correct. Or if you simply punched in random numbers to produce your desired result. Being as your results are not verifiable or under any sort of controlled process it doesn't mean they are invalid it jsut means they lack credibility. No offense. You may be ET but for all your chatter you have provided nothing. No real evidence. Only what you say your markers are. Raman Spectroscopy is used by law enforcement to determine blood's species origination at crimescenes. It won't tell us where your roots are, it will just tell us if you are a human, a dog, or a cat, or none of the above. That is adaquate. A proper mtdna test under controlled circumstances is acceptable as well. But you telling us your markers and punching them into a website just oozes zero credibility.
Besides I can arrange a test with the RS in your little tx town very quickly and have an instant result. Do a little research on the forensic applications of this technology and you'll find it's accurate. And if you aren't human it'll tell us. If you don't want to do it in your town, I can arrange it here in New Orleans. And while I may no believe you in he slightest I'm open minded to real evidence. And while I don't see anything overly special with your Y panel if its even legitimate, I tend to think that if you produced that result in controlled circumstances we'd get a different result. And if we didn't i just means some of your markers are rare. When I look at a similar list on the rare transplant markers, I see similar results. But if you make it through the Ramen Spectroscopy I'll take you right down to the lab and we can have a full DNA panel run, Y and mt, my treat.
Scan a copy of the results from the lab, not the website.
Has anyone ever met an alien named Jimmy?
Raman Spectroscopy is used by law enforcement to determine blood's species origination at crimescenes. It won't tell us where your roots are, it will just tell us if you are a human, a dog, or a cat, or none of the above.