DNA evidence of ET? part 2

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Rich ... real rich! And, you claim to be a psychic. Yet, you don't even know the fundamentals of telepathy. How is that?

You obviously are not that bright for an alien. Please go back and read that all over again as my claim to be psychic was obvious sarcasm. I am sure anyone else who speaks English understood that. Aside from just saying "rich" how about you actually address what I said. Why is it you cannot answer direct questions? For someone who came here to inform us, you sure do a lot of dodging. What do I have to do to get you to actually answer me like an honest 'person?'

reply to post by Beamish


Sorry Beamish ... I've trying to get to your post all day. But, between installing a database engine on my server, BS posts from some, and legitimate posts from others, and just plain ole interruptions ...

That you have allegedly had direct interaction and exposure to your “species’” history, technology, intentions, actions and location in Earth orbit should denote, logically, that would have something more compelling and substantial than the meager offerings you present here. It’s like you’ve been dealt a hand in a game of Texas Hold ‘Em and told to play then suddenly realize you’re a few cards short. It’s not fair, is it?

It’s not only unfair, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever and you need to reflect on why that is.

"Thats what she said". Sorry ... game refenence. But, you're right, it isn't fair. Part of the problem is that I was shown the cards, then had them taken away ... so I can't use them. I said at the time that this would not work, I was told to try anyway. And, since I said I would, I am. It is part of an honor creed I have; If I say I'll do something, then I have to at least try.

As to what would happen to the social/religio/political structure of the planet when contact happens is a whole other discussion. What is relevant here is that if you are telling the truth, then you are instigating disclosure

Trying anyway. A part of the reason that I'm only using sites like this right now is that it is like an experiment. To see if I and my evidence is ready for "prime time" ... I'm undecided on that right now.

Part of the indecision stems from the fact that there are many who don't wish address the evidence I have. Thank you for being an exception by the way.

Based on the ways that advanced technology becomes public on your world, I think it is fairly safe to say that the "Black Ops" types have some of this in a fairly developed state. Also based on leaked reports of such technologies, I think we can begin to presume that some actual machines may exist.

Sorry, but you have to agree that’s supposition. I agree that the military do withhold technology, but until we see that giant triangular ship float out of a hangar in front of the world’s press, then all we can do is speculate.
And considering you have said that we do have this tech, and have used it to reach the stars, why “presume” that the tech exists?

Actually, I didn't say that Humans have used this tech to reach the stars, but, that it can be use to reach the stars.

We’d have the same conversation sitting on your porch drinking beer, believe me.

Somehow I think that would be enjoyable.

Peace and Understanding

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Rich ... real rich! And, you claim to be a psychic. Yet, you don't even know the fundamentals of telepathy. How is that?

You obviously are not that bright for an alien. Please go back and read that all over again as my claim to be psychic was obvious sarcasm. I am sure anyone else who speaks English understood that. Aside from just saying "rich" how about you actually address what I said. Why is it you cannot answer direct questions? For someone who came here to inform us, you sure do a lot of dodging. What do I have to do to get you to actually answer me like an honest 'person?'

The question you are referring to has been answered several times. I haven't "dodged" it, I addressed it directly.

As a friend of my said, while looking over my shoulder; "Dude, put down the crack pipe".

reply to post by SaturnFX


The part about the tehnology, there are quite a few things ETs do, that antrhra may not agree with, and its up to him. Though I'm going to state both somethings buried in experiences, and also, stuff buried in me, as I often get close to waking up and really get drawn to knowledge I had, its like an overlay, this forgetfulness, and another compartment stirring, and I can't really explain it.

But their technology is varied, as different groups are at different levels. Our secret technology is probably, like project camelot interviews reveal, thousands of years above our science thats taught. So perhaps he's thinking of black op projects, not publically known science. Nonetheless they're far more advanced, thousands to possibly the master races being more akin to billions of years ahead. I don't really know if there is a limit per sae, as I don't believe in the Big Bang theory. There is a thread not too long ago discussing this, and how it worked with their unresolved questions, but upon further resolutions, its flawed. But it was promoted by the Jesuits about a year or so before it came out because the Beginning moment works better with the Church. Infinite is harder to imagine.

But there is protocol, not just things he may not say, but also things they may not tell anyone here yet, no matter what family relations they have. Protocol is not only used to protect them, but also the individual.

An example of protocol for someone who had a real marker, energy reading from his posts, is smokingman's pleiaidans, who talked about planet x scenario as does ET_MAN.
ET_MAN has incredible information, but he is only able to give a certain scenario out of many, at least this is what I have written and told him I thought about his story. I know of another who also used that scenario as a substitution for something else he couldn't talk about. As it is ET_MAN was forced off his thread twice, and recently is chilling off again.

People cannot share certain information without endangering themselves, and because of this, they are often not told the truth. Protocol covers much.

So the question is, are the ETs who monitor and with people on earth to try and help us wake up, way beyond those annunaki who are running this planet through our leaders? These annunaki where the old empire reconpilot talks about. I'm not technical, so I don't know. But they did create this matrix.

In any case, he can disagree with me if he wants. Also the multiverse, timeline thing is very interesting. I know he has his own information or opinions on this. As long people are raising their frequencies and consciousness, and trying to ascend, which improves their psi and awareness and memory activation, I don't know if it really matters if its possible or not providing the advancement I've seen many times takes place versus the reset button. But if it is, its worth attempting.



[edit on 6-3-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by SaturnFX


Some of y'all need to pay attention to how the SaturnFX is doing this ...

Ath. Your very first thread discusses your disbelief that ETs are far more advanced than humans are currently. you even say this:

Given that Terrestrial science is now publishing methods and techniques for effective FTL (and knowing that this is probably way behind the actual curve), I'd think that perhaps many ET's are only 100 - 200 years ahead. Even those from other galaxies are likely on 400 - 500 years advanced from earth. But, thats only my guess.

Yet according to your story, you suggest that that your galaxy is approximately what...a million or two years more advanced than where we are today?

Now this is an inconistancy/contradiction I can see.

This stems from a couple of factors.
1. I wasn't remembering my own history, and didn't take it into account.
2. I don't believe that many ET's are significantly more advanced than Earth. And, I would stand by my original guess as a general rule to which there must be exceptions.

Humans have already published several theories on FTL (and other technologies). There are some others that allow for a relative low-tech method of using warp mechanics to propel a craft at very high speeds (though they may be sub light). My point here is that IF these theories are allowed into the public domain, then it is likely that Military and industrial "black ops" have built experimental machines. These machines place much higher on the curve than most would think.

It also shows that just because ET can travel between star systems, he doesn't have to be that much more advanced than Earth. In fact, I feel that the true test of a species advancement is not technological at all, but rather spiritual.

In any case, I ws reminded that my species has been doing the technological for a very long time.

Next we will look at the non interference accord:
You state that the andromns are part of the Federation that you state will be part of the disclosure. You say however there is a non interference pact until such a disclosure happens...basically until the government comes clean, then nothing is happening...
You alternatively suggest however the following:

The Andromds have an active role in the current development of Earth and its people.

Active role in the development = interference...along with your ascertation that they had influence in at least ancient greece...

Actually, my people are not a part / member of the Federation, they do however have agreements with and cooperate with the Federation.

Which may give rise to questioning the age of such a non-interference accord. Throughout Terrestrial history there are many cultures who refer to "Gods", beings from the heavens who have come down to the earth for a variety of reasons. Many today beleive these "Gods" were Extraterrestrials. If that is the case, then there have been many species who have had actions here on Earth. But, since they usually gave the people they interacted with little in the way of revolutionary technologies; were they truly interferring? I don't thats a question for me to answer.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
This is a task I was given by the federation, and, it may just be to see how many beleive.

Going to play along again...more fun this way.

As a man of science, would you be more concerned if people automatically believed you without any hard evidence?

I have as much trouble with either. Those who accept me without studying my evidence are wrong, One can't accept this with out evidence. Those who reject me without studying the evidence are equally wrong.

Those who look at the evidence and make a real attempt to understand it and then make some decision, any decision, are the only ones who are correct.

How much evidence would you need to believe you were human? When taking that into consideration, how much evidence should it take, in your opinion, for someone to believe a ET from a different galaxy walks amongst them?

I'm not sure. I think if I were presented with evidence that was clear, and made it clear that I was Human, I would have to do some re-thinking about a lot of things, that is to say, more re-thinking than I already do.

How much for you to accept? More than I've given you. So far, it raises more questions than it answers. Not quite how I envisioned it, but it is the reality.

In pondering that, are you more aggravated at the people whom disbelieve you or the fact that mom isn't hovering over major cities to help you out here...

I think it is about equal. The flat rejection seems to me quite illogical, however, if Mom were hovering a few thousand feet over Dallas, then I wouldn't have to worry about finding enough evidence to convince those who reject.

sort of like proclaming that you have a pegasus as a friend whom disappears everytime someone comes around...yet the pegasus wants you to tell people about him. I think after awhile, I would simply shoot said pegasus for giving such an impossible task...surely its just doing it for a laugh.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by SaturnFX]

Lol. Yes, very frustrating!

Etharzi od Oma.

reply to post by Unity_99


I appreciate your answering, but I dont think he needs someone answering for him, or attempting to save him/lead him into a logical answer. If anything, that is a disservice if you truely believe there is something to his claim.

very interesting... I have heard that the Y chromosome is the most rapidly evolving chromasome, so perhaps this has to do with Alien DNA?

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Some of y'all need to pay attention to how the SaturnFX is doing this ...

Thanks, I try not to get caught up in the semantics and instead look at the concepts as a whole for the inconsistancies. The longer you try to split hairs discussing mistranslations and minor glitches, the less you focus in on the actual meat which may have the biggest flaws...but lets move on.

Now this is an inconistancy/contradiction I can see.

This stems from a couple of factors.
1. I wasn't remembering my own history, and didn't take it into account.

I dont really understand this, but I am sure you will have others grind you for a few pages over that. I will say I am impressed you admit as much though...most would have backpeddled and said they were testing or opening minds or some such...

One clarification, you were not remembering, or considering? There is a difference.

a species advancement is not technological at all, but rather spiritual.

Interesting, coming from a person whom has little opinion about higher/lower dimensions as stated in other threads you have...what you speak of is spiritual enlightenment yet without any real spirit/dimensional understanding or belief. There are references of how you are a sort of priest also, but you are tied into the science and again, will point out the lack of care for alternate dimensions...what form of personal spirituality deals in no higher self/dimensional body?


Lets move on.

On your webpage, you stated:

Anthra was placed on your planet in an effort to secure him from dangers in our galaxy

however just to toss out a random quote for reference here:

In the year 1,000,000 all races combined into a single 'great empire' which has lasted these last 500,000 years, and under the leadership of our own Wolfen ruling family.

Our people, for we consider ourselves a single people now, have developed intergalactic travel, and established trade routes between the seven friendly and local galaxies. Though, this too has not been without trouble. In modern times there have been long space wars (the sixth and seventh. The fifth being the freeing of our half of the galaxy). These have been fought against other galaxies, and both have come to the same result, treaties and peace. Friendly relations, and open travel and trade.

Though not all galaxies have been through the troubles of ours, most are on very good terms with our people. We have even helped to defend freedom in our neighboring galaxies.

How is it your galaxy is superpowerful, peaceful, and yet your home planet is dangerous (the heart of the andromedian race...if there was one place in the universe you would be safe...


Finally you discuss your mother meeting the UN, partially to discuss having you released back to them...however, this makes little sense...why would they need to ask them to release you to go home...why not simply just pick you up?
snippet:

The agenda was primarily the return of me to her custody and the disclosure of our presence on and near Earth.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Some of y'all need to pay attention to how the SaturnFX is doing this ...

Why? If you do not like the heat...

Sorry if the way I ask you questions bothers you. I guess it would be the fact that I am not going to just let your lies go as if they do not matter to the entirety of your little tale. I decided that in order to believe you, I must believe every aspect of your story. I decided to pick one item at a time until you can explain it successfully. So far you have done nothing but dodge. You cannot even begin to explain how your people named their Galaxy after an Earth word that can easily be traced in its origins here. You have not explained why you would tell me that you are NOT an Andromedan and then tell me that you are. Until you can clear up those two details, I see no need to move on to the rest of your BS. What good is the rest of the story if I cannot get past these two details?

Your biggest problem is that these are just two out of a really long list. Since you cannot seem to handle any more than two at once, I am trying to be nice to you.

reply to post by K J Gunderson

Actually, I have to disagree. He contradicts himself so often that it seems like he is using ATS as a practice run to me.

And I have no qualms with you disagreeing with me. This is a discussion board after all and if we all had the same opinion then it’d be boring, wouldn’t it?

Practice run is interesting. If AnthraAndromda were using this board as a form of interactive editing system for his story, then we’re certainly helping his cause immensely. The case is that he has been on the net for years with the same – or very similar – story does suggest that there is a core narrative involved. It is that central theme, one that I suspect even AnthrAndromda isn’t quite comfortable with, that we need to uncover to understand the reasoning behind these threads.

I do not doubt that he is a sick person but I do doubt he believes this story himself.

And here we differ. “Sick” is a very strong word, an unnecessary accusation, and one that is not – in my opinion - applicable to the OP. These boards aren’t designed to facilitate aggressive confrontation with people who are socially challenged. This isn’t, I’m sure you’ll agree, a kangaroo court.

Originally posted by Beamish
And here we differ. “Sick” is a very strong word, an unnecessary accusation, and one that is not – in my opinion - applicable to the OP. These boards aren’t designed to facilitate aggressive confrontation with people who are socially challenged. This isn’t, I’m sure you’ll agree, a kangaroo court.

WHAT?!?!?!?! Did you just say that is was not right for me to call him "sick" just before you labeled him "socially challenged?"



I was taking you quite seriously until I read that part. Sorry if you think I am being rude to you as well now but...wow.

How exactly did you get into the position to diagnose this person as "socially challenged?"

Let me clue you in on a little something. Sick is something that happens to people and is beyond their control. It is not an insult to call someone sick. Sick is a real thing.

"Socially Challenged" is not a read thing but a euphamism for a person that has no social skills. Basically I said he might be ill and you said he was a loser. Which one of us insulted him again?

Let me be clear.


...and I have no issue with you not agreeing with me. Like you said, this is a discussion board. However, anyone that has read this thread all the way through can only conclude one thing. This OP has said many things that are simply not true. He has contradicted himself more than once and once is all it takes for one or the other statement to not be true.

Since we can clearly establish that many of the things he has said are not true, then he must be lying. That is what lies are. Well, I already pointed out to him that he is lying and he refuses to admit it, acknowledge it, or even really see it.

So...he is either a liar or sick. It is one or the other. Perhaps you think the word "sick" is some kind of insult. It would seem from your response that you do. My ex that died of cancer was sick. How many times do you suppose she had someone rush to her defense over the word sick. Maybe I need you to explain to me just how the word "sick" is so bad. I thought "liar" was an insult. I could keep calling him a liar but that would mean that he is a sane person that is here just to purposely be a jerk. Is that what you prefer?

Labeling him as sick at least offers the benefit of the doubt. Can you look me straight in the monitor and tell me that you honestly believe the things he is claiming? Let me remind you of your post history on this thread before you answer that.

So...what does that mean? You are here questioning his honesty. You may be going about it with nicer words but you are doing the exact same thing. Why would you be doing that if he was telling the truth? Why would you express any doubts at all if you felt he was being honest? Obviously you do not feel he is being honest with us.

Does that make him an honest person? No. Does that make him a liar? Either that or sick. Do you have a third option for what you might want to consider a person that posts contradictory statements over and over and over and over again?

Again, let me state that the word "sick" is not an insult. "Socially Challenged" is nothing but an insult though.

Please go back to questioning Anthra and stating he has no social skills, instead of admonishing me for asking him questions and calling him sick.

Seriously dude. How about you worry about you instead of me if you are going to sit here and basically call the man a liar without using that word, then calling him a social reject. All I did was call him a liar and then admit it might be that he really believes these things because he is not well. You said he is a liar and is doing this because he has no social skills. Way to defend him.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by K J Gunderson]

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Actually, I have to disagree. He contradicts himself so often that it seems like he is using ATS as a practice run to me.

And I have no qualms with you disagreeing with me. This is a discussion board after all and if we all had the same opinion then it’d be boring, wouldn’t it?

Practice run is interesting. If AnthraAndromda were using this board as a form of interactive editing system for his story, then we’re certainly helping his cause immensely. The case is that he has been on the net for years with the same – or very similar – story does suggest that there is a core narrative involved. It is that central theme, one that I suspect even AnthrAndromda isn’t quite comfortable with, that we need to uncover to understand the reasoning behind these threads.

Other than the bottom portion, this part of your post is interesting. I am sure he has been wanting to tell this tale for a long time. The biggest problem I have is exactly what you brought up. He has been posting aspects of this story for a while now and here in this very thread, he is still forming his answers. They are still taking shape even if it means negating answers he gave in the past. This would indicate that he has either never resolved the actual story he wanted to tell or he suffers from some delusional illness that causes his perception of reality to change over time. It is hard to imagine anyone writing their real life story down in so many places for so long and still be getting so much of it to contradict itself. Honestly, do you think if you wrote about one small aspect of your life over and over again, your version would have so many internal arguments? How about so many within pages, or even inches of each other?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I decided that in order to believe you, I must believe every aspect of your story.

Thats a pretty tall order. Have you heard someone tell a story from memory, then a few years later tell the same story? Things change, minor things, numbers, names, etc...and as more time goes on, more things change. The concepts remain, but the minor details break down. This doesn't even have to do with being old, its how the brain stores things and why after a certain amount of years away from school, you need to refresh your knowledge...not because you forgot entire subjects, but because the details became lost or skewed over time.

Just saying that if you use that method to measure a story, you will never believe anything anyone says, from I am a ET, to I went shopping at a flea market...Now, should extraordinary claims require alot more skepticism? of course...especially when they try to start selling you books and such...but from what I see, this particular chap isn't selling anything and simply sharing a story he deems real. I would be more suspect if everything was flawless no matter how many times and ways he spoke it (would lead me to believe he is simply reading and referencing a book verses yanking stuff from memory)

Anyhow, I appreciate the spirit you put into this thread, and find it interesting that out of the millions of threads out there, you keep coming back to this particular one...something intrigues me about it also...but I think the concepts and cross referencing of concepts is a much better silver bullet than noticing when he forgot to cross a T or other insignificant aspects...with the conceptual approach, either that will make the whole thing fall down like a house of cards, or will strengthen the overall story...we have yet to truely crack the story though because of the nonstop T crossing issues going on here...and I find that a bit sad...at worst, this could be a interesting piece of fiction yet to be uncovered, and at best, a potential truth within the universe...but until we dig in, we wont know...too busy picking apart the first shovelfull of dirt.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I decided that in order to believe you, I must believe every aspect of your story.

Thats a pretty tall order. Have you heard someone tell a story from memory, then a few years later tell the same story?

Not exactly. I am not comparing what he says now with details he reported as a kid. I am comparing things like the origin of the name of his species now with when he said it a few days ago. Big difference. I do expect an alien from some super advanced race to be able to be consistent in details they write down in the same place within days. I mean, he can just flip back and check his old posts to keep his story straight and does not. That is why I lean towards sick. If I were reminding him that when he told me 20 years ago it was different, that would be a little closer. He is writing details about something pretty important and changing it within days and hours. Seems a little different to me.

What I find even more curious is how everyone is questioning me for questioning him. Apparently some of you have not been reading your own posts on this thread either. You are all pointing out his contradictions and asking him to explain why his story keeps changing. Everyone but unity_99 has been asking him about the same contradictions as myself. Why you guys suddenly feel the need to question why I am questioning him leads me to believe you have all finished doing the same and will not be just believing what he posts. I cannot wait to see how that turns out.

Good luck.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
What I find even more curious is how everyone is questioning me for questioning him.

Everyone you say...everyone is questioning you...interesting..but dont worry, I wont point out the obvious here...

I personally am not questioning you questioning him, I am questioning your line of questioning to begin with and your focuspoint on something that, from what I read, is not inconsistant. I wont answer for him, but as you pointed out, he answered the question...and you kept questioning him about the answered question which you felt he became inconsistant...if he answered the question already, why would you keep asking the same question?

I seen this:
His species: Androms
His homeworld: unknown so far (nobody asked)
The race as a whole: Andromedans, or galactic ands

he has been fairly consistant on this actually (from what I read, but I might have overlooked something..sort of lost interest when the same question/answer kept going on...like watching a pong match)

Anyhow, mades perfect sense to me...we are humans, if we one day conquor the entire galaxy, we might refer to all the species in the milky way as all of humanity (even if we have bug species and cyborgs amongst us)...and we might one day call this unification the council of humanity or some such...to the victor goes the spoils (and the rights to name crap)


-edit: Androms stole my quotebox

[edit on 7-3-2010 by SaturnFX]

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Some of y'all need to pay attention to how the SaturnFX is doing this ...

Why? If you do not like the heat...

Sorry if the way I ask you questions bothers you. I guess it would be the fact that I am not going to just let your lies go as if they do not matter to the entirety of your little tale. I decided that in order to believe you, I must believe every aspect of your story. I decided to pick one item at a time until you can explain it successfully. So far you have done nothing but dodge. You cannot even begin to explain how your people named their Galaxy after an Earth word that can easily be traced in its origins here. You have not explained why you would tell me that you are NOT an Andromedan and then tell me that you are. Until you can clear up those two details, I see no need to move on to the rest of your BS. What good is the rest of the story if I cannot get past these two details?

Your biggest problem is that these are just two out of a really long list. Since you cannot seem to handle any more than two at once, I am trying to be nice to you.

Some reality for you ... after searching back to page 10 of this thread I found;

I DID NOT tell you that I was not Andromedan, I said those that Mr. Collier is in contact with are not Andromedan.

When you originally brought this up, I explained it to you quite succinctly. You somehow missed it, either because you don't want to realize the truth, or you are willing to anything you can to prove me wrong.

The origins of the word are irrelevant. It is a name, and for all practical intent and purpose can be arbitrary.

You seem to have a problem seeing the forest for the trees. You need to back off a little and see the world for what it is.

Etharzi od Oma


[edit on 7-3-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
You need to back off a little and see the world for what it is.

Ooh, I know this answer

a dreamworld that enslaves the base instincts of the inhabitants while corrupting consciousness into little more than a droning consumerist sacrificial slave race...

ok, been watching a bit too much Tsarion as of late...stupid matrix.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by SaturnFX]

reply to post by K J Gunderson

And here we differ. “Sick” is a very strong word, an unnecessary accusation, and one that is not – in my opinion - applicable to the OP. These boards aren’t designed to facilitate aggressive confrontation with people who are socially challenged.

The definition of sick varies according to its cultural usage; in America, I believe it can be used in the same form of reference as “bad”, as in great.

So, we can argue all day just what the inference was in your post.

As this is completely off-topic, let me put this to bed; please notice I italicized the word “are”. I did that for a reason. It points out quite clearly that I don’t believe the OP is socially challenged. Your opinion of him is up to you.

In the first part, I disagreed with you as to your calling AnthraAndromda sick. That is my prerogative to do so, as much as it is yours to do so.

In the second part, I was referring to other members of ATS – who I will not name but I’m sure you will be aware of because of their conspicuously obscure postings – and that in my opinion this board should not encourage us to actively engage them critically.

In your defence, perhaps I neglected to include the words “besides”, or “as a side note”, at the start of the second sentence.

My bad, and I admit it.

Edit to add:

You said he is a liar and is doing this because he has no social skills. Way to defend him.

In the light of what I’ve just said, it should now be clear that I am not, and never have, defended him. What I am interested in is seeing if he can be made aware that there may be alternate explanations for his claims.

Labeling him as sick at least offers the benefit of the doubt. Can you look me straight in the monitor and tell me that you honestly believe the things he is claiming? Let me remind you of your post history on this thread before you answer that.

Perhaps this is all about terminology. “Sick” does imply “ill”, but you have to admit that it can also be used as a slight.

And I’m quite aware of my stance on this thread.

However, I’m also allowing for the possibility that my estimation of AnthraAndromda may, in some bizarre, unexpected way, be wrong. We all should, as no one is fully conversant with just how this phenomenon will eventually pan out.

I am, as I’ve said before, basing everything he’s said and my reaction to it on previously acquired expectations of how alien contact will occur, and question him accordingly. As yet, he hasn’t managed to alter my mind (and if I thought him somehow “sick”, I wouldn’t be talking to him in the first place).



[edit on 8-3-2010 by Beamish]

[edit on 8-3-2010 by Beamish]

reply to post by K J Gunderson

Other than the bottom portion, this part of your post is interesting. I am sure he has been wanting to tell this tale for a long time.

He’s been relaying it in part since the early 1990’s.

And yes, it could still be forming; as I mentioned, as a method of reworking the story into a coherent piece, this, and other related threads, would be an ideal stage upon which to sound it out. Ever been to a writing group? Same thing happens with written pieces in the making.

That he does admit that he makes slip-ups is indicative of several things, but what it does suggest strongly is that the narrative is fallible.

In my opinion, what needs to be addressed are not just the faults, but the causes of these inconsistencies. That way, if we’re right, then maybe AnthraAndromda can be made aware that there may be an alternative cause to these flaws other than his all-too Human forgetfulness, even if he’s highly reluctant to admit it.

And if we’re wrong and he’s just relaying actual events as best he can, then it’s us who have to change our minds…

Interesting scenario, isn’t it?