Obama Threatens China And Iran, Another U.S. War?

it's obvious. they are taunting iran and china on purpose...THEY WANT ANOTHER WAR! IT MAKES THEM ALL MONEY and gives them excuse to take over a country's resources!

china backs iran. if we # with iran, china will back iran.

Pardon me for asking, but do any other sources exist that contain this information?
It was posted by "Anonymous" on a news site...but how credible is it?
Not trying to be rude... just double checkin' to make sure this is legit.

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Google Search Reveals Many Answers

There are many many articles on this. Just search the title.

Also, just to add my .02...

If Chinese make up 5 million people in America. And Islamic followers make up 5 million people. Not throwing in Russians, who will be pissed should we choose to attack Iran or start a war with China.. didn't even bother to look up their population in America, but don't you all think having this many angry devoted foreign citizens in our own border would be a SERIOUS problem?

(sorry for the run on sentence, I was making a point)

We would have our hands full if we choose to take on another war. We can't even handle the one we're in. Kinda funny considering Bush declared the war a victory in 2003.

Bush Declares Victory

"The tyrant has fallen and Iraq is free," Mr. Bush told 5,000 cheering sailors and Marines, who interrupted his 22-minute address with 25 rounds of applause and six standing ovations.

All I'm saying is no good thing will come from this.

But food for thought, I have authored a thread that could be related to this. I find it interesting that all of this stuff is happening, but America doesn't care if we're waving a communist symbol in our MSM.

Communist Symbol- State of The Union

I'll leave you with that thought. This could be bad. Or could be all set up. Either way, I wish the aliens would hurry up and intervene. I'm ready to blow this popsicle stand.

We will never invade china...they have WAY too many people they wouldn't mind losing...in fact, we'd be doing them a favor, and then they would win just by sheer numbers.

We won't nuke em because it would blow our way...

Obama-lama-ding-dang is in way over his head...what we are seeing is a total failure of leadership...he can't even lead his own party...failure to lead in times like these can be the begining of then end.

China has been buckling down. I have a friend in China who said the Chinese government blocked all inbound port 80 traffic for the entire country. You must have state approval and pass certain requirements to host a web site in China these days.

China is not a country that will bow to the USA ever. Demanding anything of China is a mistake we may like to think that China is built upon cheap crap, but the fact is that the Chinese enjoy some of the highest quality products on Earth and the reason we think Chinas merchandise is sub standard is because we get the cheapest crap importers can pawn off on us (Mainly Walmart.).

Chinas heavy industry and manufacturing capabilities cannot be met by the rest of the world combined. War with China is not an option and we know it. Don’t worry about it, it will never happen!

obama and the us politics are disgusting ...

well, US is very powerful, to murder people and invade from countries that dont even have an army is amazing, congratulation for everybody who supports "WAR" ... this is not WWII, this is not a war ...

Originally posted by wiseone11
We won't nuke em because it would blow our way...

We won’t nuke China because of the old mutually assured destruction thing. China is armed to the teeth, and even has capability to down all of our satellites with a single push of a button.

The best comparison would be Nazi Germany (USA in this case) vs. the USSR and all of the Allied Forces (China in this case). Not only would we face the full might of the Chinese war machine, but the entire world would be forced to choice sides. Who do you think they would bet their futures on?

War with China will never happen, and China will do whatever they like. On that note we will be happy with whatever Chinas choices to do.

Well it could happen but it won’t be by our choice. China could decide that the US would look better flying a Chinese flag and there would be no hope for us. Don’t piss on China dumb asses!

[edit on 3-2-2010 by Donkey_Dean]

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by DaMod

 

AMEN BROTHER!!!!

Im sick of this guy .

I have gotten to the point that I dont care if Biden runs this country, I WELCOME it.

Pelosi as VP? that sends chills up my spine, but if thats what I have to accept, than so be it, as long as we dont have to put up with this moron anymore.

[edit on 2-2-2010 by Common Good]

Biden as President now that would be a fun time.

www.youtube.com...

damm the anticrist (obama) , EEUU dont care about their people so they want to help haiti and be the cops of the worls..... yeah right ! they trying to be the rulers , WW3 its just part of their agenda , i just hope that im not on the middle of the cross fire , my condolence to the american people they will have the worts part , fighting a war that's not theirs .

Originally posted by Faiol
obama and the us politics are disgusting ...

well, US is very powerful, to murder people and invade from countries that dont even have an army is amazing, congratulation for everybody who supports "WAR" ... this is not WWII, this is not a war ...

I love you bleeding heart peace and love types war sucks I agree but you paint with a pretty big brush. I bet you are alive because of American military might am I right? what country does you grand pa come from?


Let me ask you a question should we have let Hitler do what he wanted and hoped for the best? It did not work out to well for the french and others. Peace comes down the barrel of a gun and no matter how much you want to change the facts will stay the same. Pray for peace prepare for war this is what we must do and people like you are the first ones on your knees begging to be helped. You are also the first to try and appease your oppressors. Would you not rather die on your feet than live on your knees?

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

But theyve already proved they can.

WASHINGTON -- The Chinese military used a ground-based missile to hit and destroy one of its aging satellites orbiting more than 500 miles in space last week -- a high-stakes test demonstrating China's ability to target regions of space that are home to US spy satellites and space-based missile defense systems.

The test of anti satellite technology is believed to be the first of its kind in two decades by any nation and raised concerns about the vulnerability of US satellites and a possible arms race in space.

You mean one they knew exactly where it was, exact altitude, exact speed and exact path...etc. Oh yeah the article did state it was one of "Their" aging satellites.

I understand.

You do know that modern [not Aging] "Spy" satellites move? and... not just in an orbit right? Here is a small "Test" of SDI technology from the 80s and early 90s.





[edit on 3-2-2010 by SLAYER69]

Originally posted by hippomchippo
It's amazing, on the thread where china warns the US, you get people complaining that Obama isn't going to do anything and is simply a patsy, then once he does something, he's going to get us all killed.

Star for you!

The trouble with most are that they are unaware of the Chinese doctrine for world domination.

China recently made an announcement about their "first island defense line" that would run from Taiwan through the Spratly Islands to Singapore at the tip of the Malaysian Peninsula. The first island-chains describe the sphere of influence that China expects to achieve in the Pacific Ocean. In essence China was claiming for itself most of the South China Sea and Southeast Asia.

On October 19 2009, China presented an ambitious white paper concerning Chinese plans to upgrade its navy to permit it to control the First Island-Chain by 2010 and to the Second Island-Chain by 2040. The first Island-Chain includes:

Japan
Okinawa
Taiwan
Philippines
Brunei.

The second island-chain extends to Australia’s doorsteps. This has enormous implications. For over a year now, China has repeatedly and vocally demanded that the US and international community has no right to intervene in the internal affairs within its sphere of influence.

It also has its sights set for South Asia by checkmating the regional power - India. It has already spread its influence there by building ports in Pakistan, Burma, Srilanka and in the process of stationing troops there, thereby encircling India.

So I hope the armchair 'strategists' will see through the Chinese conspiracy of gradual World domination by the year 2040. And this needs to be nipped in the bud.

So instead of lambasting Obama and his administration these guys need to see the writing on the wall.

[edit on 3-2-2010 by OrionHunterX]

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That follows the same path I'm on. We think we're mighty. Maybe we are in our own minds. But I think there is more than meets the eye on this matter. America is allowed to save face perhaps. As long as China allows it.

I'm not trying to be a fear mongering nut job but the US is flying the communist/socialist star for a reason. And all of these recent articles about China warning the US for this and that. We're being scolded.

I read an article a few moments ago, kinda old, but interesting.

If China Stops Lending U.S Money, Look Out

Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters that he was worried about the U.S. becoming something of a, well, deadbeat. "We have made a huge amount of loans to the United States. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I'm a little bit worried," Wen said. "I would like to call on the United States to honor its words, stay a credible nation and ensure the safety of Chinese assets."

They have us by the... rhymes with "halls".

I think what is going to happen again is one or two different things.

Iran attacks Israel, they begin a war. US is pressured to support Israel, but does. China then backs Iran.

Iran attacks the US based on X (given reason), US, Israel attack Iran...then China may come into place for their past hurt feelings

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i understand you quite well , one with the heart of a warrior will not surrender , but one wise man avoid conflic in one pice , if there no option will fight , but dont blame people of being coward if the like to have no blood sheed , if theres a war then will fight till the ones that want war are death.

Originally posted by OrionHunterX

So I hope the armchair 'strategists' will see through the Chinese conspiracy of gradual World domination by the year 2040. And this needs to be nipped in the bud.

2040 eh.

I'd be more worried about Imperialistic countries in the year 2010 to be honest.

Boots in Iraq , boots in Afgan, Boots soon in Yemen, How many more countries before its called a World War?

i say let war happen

at least we can start to get it over with

all the constant talk about war is annoying as hell, im glad i didnt grow up in the cold war, i dont know how people were able to deal with such constant paranoia running rampant


i mean everyday some new breaking news that means wars


i say stop talking, just speak softly and carry a big stick and lets start whacking

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So would you be happy if the battleground was in Texas.


Or maybe in Idaho?

Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
China has been buckling down. I have a friend in China who said the Chinese government blocked all inbound port 80 traffic for the entire country. You must have state approval and pass certain requirements to host a web site in China these days.

Confirmed about the state control of a website hosting, every new website has to be approved in Central Beijing. The content is screened, politically, but also a-social websites (xxx, illegal downloads etc) are banned. At least one of my new commercial corporate website took 1 week to have it launched instead of the usual 1-2 days....

China is not a country that will bow to the USA ever. Demanding anything of China is a mistake we may like to think that China is built upon cheap crap, but the fact is that the Chinese enjoy some of the highest quality products on Earth and the reason we think Chinas merchandise is sub standard is because we get the cheapest crap importers can pawn off on us (Mainly Walmart.).

Interesting to at last see someone stating this. So many forgets that some of the so-called high-end products like Ipods, Macs, PS3 etc etc are actually manufactured in China. I do believe China is still lacking behind is the R&D part, which engineers are a master in backward engineering, but lack the competitive capability of pushing through innovation. This is a problem in the education (duck-feeding) system, but (Chinese) talents who studied abroad are being attracted to fill up this gap rapidly and more corporations see they have to innovate to survive.....

Chinas heavy industry and manufacturing capabilities cannot be met by the rest of the world combined. War with China is not an option and we know it. Don’t worry about it, it will never happen!

Well, the manufacturing capabilities is one thing, more important is that Assured Mutual Destruction thingy anyone faces if you go on an all-out war with another nuclear power. It is just NOT profitable to be mutually destroyed and don't have any sheeple folk (aka slaves) working for you.

I also just read that the 09 projected deficit was 1.75 trillion (to china) 2010 will make it even higher if they cooperate.

Think hard here, fellas. Why would we (hilary clinton) plead with them to keep the loans flowing full well that the 450 billion we spend paying on the interest alone will cause us to never be able to pay it back?

Simple. Either cause an event or cause the 'domino effect' (ie, create a small event that will later roll into a larger event - for example, cia agents starting coup-de-tats which later blossom into overthrowing the ruling power, etc. Then, after said event or because of said event, say that because of that event, we are not responsible for our debt.

A realistic example...US triggers problems with Iran, China backs Iran, we view them as an enemy now, and we don't pay back our enemies...bombs away!