Results of the use of the Oreshnik missile system in Dnepropetrovsk

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The western Kool-Aid I referred to earlier. These people believe their BS and their insanity is going to get us all killed.
Quote from your link.

"We will support Ukraine as intensely and as long as necessary. Why? Because it is our security that is at stake. Each time the Russian army progresses by one square kilometer, the threat gets one square kilometer closer to Europe," he said.

Stupidity or insanity? Either will get us all killed.

Only the Cockroaches will survive.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Everyone on the forum knows that I am very well versed not only in world history, but also in Russian history. Slavery, human trafficking - this is a purely Western invention. There are no such facts in Russian history.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I don't care how the word "kholopy" is translated into English. But they are definitely not slaves. In Europe, such "kholopy" were 2/3 of the population.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Everyone on the forum knows that I am very well versed not only in world history, but also in Russian history. Slavery, human trafficking - this is a purely Western invention. There are no such facts in Russian history.

I appreciate your support for your Country, but even Russian citizens should be concerned that Your leader is about to get us all killed just for part of Ukraine. It's getting out of hand Oreshnik or no Oreshnik the missile is not going to matter.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

This just in -France gives Ukraine green light for long-range missile strikes all Putin's demonstration did is ramp up the pressure to end this war .

I sincerely feel sorry for France. The French have completely gone mad.(((

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: onestonemonkey
Can you provide officially confirmed figures and objective test data? Or will you again confirm everything in very, very secret?))))

LMAO
Yeah no one ever tested anty of the tridents 1 or 2-none whatsoever have ever been launched to test them honest!
Non ever reached escape velocity and returned to earth during tests.

That was sarcasm BTW

Go ask your FSB spies who infiltrated Lockheed years back.

Tridents are old news BTW and we have much better that you are probably aware of but may wish to feign ignorance of to make you own missiles look better.

Insecurity complex!

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Everyone on the forum knows that I am very well versed not only in world history, but also in Russian history. Slavery, human trafficking - this is a purely Western invention. There are no such facts in Russian history.

I appreciate your support for your Country, but even Russian citizens should be concerned that Your leader is about to get us all killed just for part of Ukraine. It's getting out of hand Oreshnik or no Oreshnik the missile is not going to matter.

You know, after 8 years of extermination of Russians in Donbass, Russians are completely calm about the extermination of people in the West in response to the extermination of Russians in the East. Humanity is shown only to those nations that express their humaneness to us. This is the reality, and you are to blame yourself.

a reply to: onestonemonkey

The British here are always demanding references to any of my phrases. Can I demand the same in return? At least sometimes?

a reply to: YouSir

Eh, I’ve been honest the west isn’t innocent.

Viktor Yanukovych ran on entering the EU, and for right to the finish line of doing so before reneging after a meeting with Putin. Granted, they had some loans they had to reconcile with Russia, so I’ll give the back room deal that.

Afterwards, he got a mansion in Russia.

Russia was meddling inside Ukraine too, the difference is the people were voting to lean westward.

I haven’t ignored parts of history. I just came to a different opinion.

I think the evidence Ukraine doesn’t want to be part of Russia is clear, proof that the three day special operation is long over due.

a reply to: RussianTroll

It's not me who needs to be afraid, but you)))
As a child, I also believed in fairy tales: "Now a good wizard will come and solve everything"))))

That's the thing:

I was just looking over a list of what's known as "Post Apocalyptic Films". What they have in common is the theme that "The Hoped For Savior" turned out to be anything but. Then the films portray survivors struggling to survive the aftermath.

An apocalypse is a revelation. The films reveal what? No good wizard is a coming.

The failure of Liberalism seems to lie in the fact that there is no check put on growth. There is no consciousness that the Earth is a finite source of finite resources. Economies are structured with the false premise that growth can go on infinitely.

We should all fear.

a reply to: RussianTroll

What references might we have demanded?

May I again ask, what is "new" about the Oreshnik?


All IRBM and ICBMs are "hypersonic" on the final phase.

The US, UK and France has MIRV'd ICBMS.

Aren't you forgetting M.A.D?

originally posted by: RussianTroll

You know, after 8 years of extermination of Russians in Donbass

About 14,000 people were killed in the war: 6,500 Russian and Russian proxy forces, 4,400 Ukrainian forces, and 3,400 civilians on both sides. Most civilian casualties were in the first year.

3,400 civilians over 8 years is an extermination? How many would have died if Russia didn't play the proxy war in the first place? You caused it then say extermination..lol geez


BTW 14,000 is about 1 day today with you all, so that was some big thing back then for 8 years but today 14,000 in a day is nothing...OK got it Mr propaganda machine.

Global Slavery Index

Russia is up there!

originally posted by: RussianTroll

Everyone on the forum knows that I am very well versed not only in world history, but also in Russian history. Slavery, human trafficking - this is a purely Western invention. There are no such facts in Russian history.

USSR wasn't slavery of the whole population? Stalin didn't kill 40 million+?

Potential, soberingly realistic results of a nuclear confrontation. Pick it up at 22:10 if the video starts from the beginning rather than at current time. Biden has gone insane over his stolen 2nd term and is willing to burn it all down in retaliation/retribution. This insanity needs to stop now, before it's too late.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

Maybe if you believe the only way to end the war is for Ukraine to surrender.
Giving Putin a bloody nose will make any peace agreements less one sided.

There are much bigger issues at play than these two mostly irrelevant countries.
China is watching very closely and if Ukraine is abandoned by the west they will attempt to take Taiwan. 😎

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Bluntone22

NATO fought in Afghanistan for 20 years until it left in disgrace. Have you forgotten?

Nope.. just like most of our conflicts now, it’s more about buying new weapons than actually winning.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I think China may also be eyeing up some chunks of Russia.

Let's define it from the point of view of scientific calculation:

500 - kilogram blank accelerated to 3000 meters per second 4.5⋅10(9 degrees) J. or 500x3000 (2 degrees)/2
1 ton of trinitrotoluene TNT = 4.184⋅10(9 degrees) J

If "Oreshnik" carries 6 blanks of 500 kg or only 0.3 cubic meters of depleted uranium or tungsten.

Tungsten costs 3000 rubles per kilogram (300 dollars). If you make it in the form of scrap of 100 kg, then tungsten in scrap will cost 300 dollars.
If you pack 100 scraps with stabilizers in a package, and accelerate to 3 km per second. Then each (out of 30) crowbar will release energy equal to 220 kg of trinitrotoluene when stopped, and all together 6 kilotons.

This is a completely conventional weapon, fundamentally unshootable. And it is difficult to miss bridges, factories, cities, bases.

a reply to: Bluntone22

That's the whole difference: you think about money, and we think about winning))))