Results of the use of the Oreshnik missile system in Dnepropetrovsk

a reply to: YouSir

It’s a nuanced situation why this escalated to where it’s at. And the west isn’t innocent.

But the Ukrainians had a clear determination to open up trade with Europe. Who could blame them after seeing the success of Poland.

I at least point out I acknowledge everyone has acted in bad faith. But then I take a step back and see that one side is actively extending their borders while the other is inviting people into economic partnerships.

Never have I have implied the west is completely benevolent. Only in the context of comparison to autocracies will there be misunderstanding of how critical I am of western governments.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: YouSir

Of course trump approves.
Russian infrastructure turning into a pile of smoking rubble will give Ukraine a much stronger position in negotiations. Both sides want to strengthen their positions.

As for NATO...
Many countries remember their Soviet era occupation years and want to join NATO to prevent a repeat. Nobody is forcing them to join anything...🤣
Yeah, being allowed to join is problematic since Russia was told it wouldn't happen .

Ummm...which is why I didn't vote for him...because he lied...because his platform was run on bringing troops home...disbanding NATO...Not being a party to any conflicts...and he bold faced lied...

His approval of escalation by the Biden administration...was all I needed to confirm I'd made the right choice to write in someone else's name on the ballot...


My conscious is clear...Trumps on the other hand...not so much...






YouSir

a reply to: Bluntone22

NATO fought in Afghanistan for 20 years until it left in disgrace. Have you forgotten?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

originally posted by: RussianTroll
As the Russians say, "you've lost your nerve with your own assertion."
Accepted!!!
You've proven that the West does not have and will not have hypersonic weapons.
Thank you!

Sigh.
Ok some non imprisonable publcly availible information-


Oreshnik- speed: +mach 11

Trident 1- top speed: mach 19

Trident 2-speed: mach 24 in terminal phase

originally posted by: FullHeathen
a reply to: RussianTroll

Please list the systems and show their successful tests.

Never fear. Trump the Genius will release all compartmentalized top secret info, with blueprints and control codes. "The people demand transparency!!!"

Then the hostile hackers will ground everything in the U.S. arsenal.

USA! USA! USA!
MAGA or bust!!!

It's not me who needs to be afraid, but you)))
As a child, I also believed in fairy tales: "Now a good wizard will come and solve everything"))))

a reply to: YouSir

"I'd love to be wrong in my assessment of your character...I really would..."

If you would kindly stick to the topic and discuss it without belittling and insulting those with different opinions then that would be nice.

Now, some evidence or a source for your claim that the missile's target was decimated would also be nice?

a reply to: RussianTroll

It is precisely because Russia has no colonial or slave-owning past that all civilized countries of the world are now entering into alliances with Russia.

what? you don't even know your past.

you might want to look up the word kholopy tranlated from Хополи.
and then look into rusian imperalism of tsardom of russia, the russian empire, and ussr ruthless rule over countries once invaded and taken control over.

and then there's the modern day slavery that forces poor migrants in to work brick factories and farms in dagestan.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

This just in -France gives Ukraine green light for long-range missile strikes all Putin's demonstration did is ramp up the pressure to end this war .

a reply to: RussianTroll

Russia also fought in Afghanistan and lost?

What might be "new" about the Oreshnik?

originally posted by: ksihkahe

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: onestonemonkey

Russia still struggles with air superiority, naval effectiveness, and ground forces.

I do miss the old...unindoctrinated you...

Since 2020 the ranks have thinned considerably.

People are living in a fantasy world where the US didn't fund the creation of SARS-COV-2, where there aren't a bunch of biolabs in Ukraine, where politicians aren't getting rich off the US seizing control of Ukraine's government, where Western governments didn't approve a dangerous vaccine™, where hundreds of millions of people weren't denied early treatment to drive hysteria for "vaccine" EUAs, where Western leaders didn't violate basic human rights over pseudoscience, and where they never have to actually deal with any consequences for the trillions of dollars in war they cheer to fund.

Lots of brains aren't going to recover from this one.

Ummm...I know...which is why I can honestly state that I'm still one of the dreaded...un-vaxxed...

But your right...reason and logic have fled the field...and the gullible greater unwashed now roam the streets like a badly written Zombie apocalypse flick...

It's been a sad sort of season...watching those I had assumed were above that herd...wander aimlessly amongst them...lowing their discontent...and chewing the the cud of programming...

Sad...but revelatory just the same...






YouSir

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

This just in -France gives Ukraine green light for long-range missile strikes all Putin's demonstration did is ramp up the pressure to end this war .

Got a link?

originally posted by: RussianTroll

NATO fought in Afghanistan for 20 years until it left in disgrace. Have you forgotten?

We didn't learn from Russia getting their butts whipped before us. We both learned you can't change 2000 years of warlord leadership and a religion that controls their lives on a high level.

originally posted by: charlest2

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Bluntone22
France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

Your first sentence fundamentally contradicts the second. Alas(((

This just in -France gives Ukraine green light for long-range missile strikes all Putin's demonstration did is ramp up the pressure to end this war .

Got a link?

Its RT

originally posted by: FullHeathen

Then the hostile hackers will ground everything in the U.S. arsenal.

USA! USA! USA!
MAGA or bust!!!

Going to love 4 years of liberal rants...

a reply to: charlest2

Here:

BBC News - No 'red lines' in Ukraine support, French foreign minister tells BBC
www.bbc.com...

originally posted by: YouSir

Ummm...I know...which is why I can honestly state that I'm still one of the dreaded...un-vaxxed...

It all depends on your age and if you have other medical conditions. COVID wasn't anything for the masses under 40 and healthy, but it was really bad for the old and people with other medical conditions. So in your case, if you are younger and healthy then good decision in not to get it since the vac can lead to other issues, but if you are older and/or have health conditions then you are just rolling the dice.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: YouSir



But the Ukrainians had a clear determination to open up trade with Europe. Who could blame them after seeing the success of Poland.

Ummm...some...Ukrainians...Certainly not the democratically elected government...or the Eastern Ukrainians...

That's why a coup was required...and why Obama...through the artifices of the CIA and Victoria Nuland...fulfilled that requirement...gleefully...

That's where dishonestly lives...by glossing over the truth and parsing it into guiltlessness...

THE US and NATO instigated this whole debacle...planned it...and brought it about...KNOWING...how Russia would be forced to respond...

The outcome was engineered...and just look at all of those on this site...and in the general public...who whole cloth swallowed a narrative...without thought or consideration for where the truth actually lay...

Frankly...I'm ashamed at the rhetoric these swallowers fill the threads and pages with...it just makes me feel ill...



YouSir

a reply to: onestonemonkey
Can you provide officially confirmed figures and objective test data? Or will you again confirm everything in very, very secret?))))

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