Results of the use of the Oreshnik missile system in Dnepropetrovsk

a reply to: RussianTroll

"You've proven that the West does not have and will not have hypersonic weapons.
Thank you!".

I posted a link to them above.
In case you missed it:

www.sandboxx.us...

a reply to: CriticalStinker

If I inadvertently pigeonholed you into the pool of the gullible, my apologies.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: CriticalStinker

It is precisely because Russia has no colonial or slave-owning past that all civilized countries of the world are now entering into alliances with Russia.

No you just killed the royal family and took over.

If I start listing famous people who were killed by the British Crown, we will run out of space in this thread. Please stick to the topic.

1000 days into a war with nothing to show but dead soldiers.
Hopefully a new american president can get both sides to the negotiation table.

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: onestonemonkey

Russia still struggles with air superiority, naval effectiveness, and ground forces.

I do miss the old...unindoctrinated you...

Since 2020 the ranks have thinned considerably.

People are living in a fantasy world where the US didn't fund the creation of SARS-COV-2, where there aren't a bunch of biolabs in Ukraine, where politicians aren't getting rich off the US seizing control of Ukraine's government, where Western governments didn't approve a dangerous vaccine™, where hundreds of millions of people weren't denied early treatment to drive hysteria for "vaccine" EUAs, where Western leaders didn't violate basic human rights over pseudoscience, and where they never have to actually deal with any consequences for the trillions of dollars in war they cheer to fund.

Lots of brains aren't going to recover from this one.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: RussianTroll

If you think we did not know about the "Oreshnik" You need to get out more and if you think we don't have the same or even better technology, you are kidding yourself.

Explain to me, please. Who is "we"? You personally? If you have inside information from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, please share it. )))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

As in the information about your Oreshnik is all over the internet?

In the public domain?


It's even on Wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org...(missile)

originally posted by: YouSir

I admonished you to broaden your horizons...

Keep to your script...it's amusing...

Well..... Tell us kind sir what is it exactly.

a reply to: xuenchen

Is this Ukraine's hypersonic weapon)))

In Russia they say in such cases: "You're making me laugh"))))

France is going to approve the use of SCALP missiles too.
The west is ramping up the pressure to end this war.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
1000 days into a war with nothing to show but dead soldiers.
Hopefully a new american president can get both sides to the negotiation table.

Ummm...it would be nice...but I doubt it...

Trump is responsible for arming Ukraine...after Obama and Biden facilitated a coup there...

Trump has also not condemned the Biden administrations latest escalation by allowing long range strikes into Russia...so that leads me to believe he personally approves of the escalation...

Then we have this new weapon test by Russia...and the change to Russia's nuclear doctrine...all in response to escalatory moves by the Biden administration and NATO...

Look...I get it...the western programmed mindset is to only blame the moves by Russia...but not recognize the encroachment and the maneuvers of NATO and the west that brought about the conflict in the first place...

This isn't actually about Ukraine...it's about trying to put Russia in it's place...and keep it there...

The problem with that scenario...is that Russia's place is something for Russia to decide...not by imposition by neocons and progressives...

Perhaps if the west would stop attempting to impose it's vision of world order on the rest of the world...that frankly doesn't want anything to do with it...and allow other countries to chart their own destinies...then we might have that peace you spoke to...

Perhaps...



YouSir

originally posted by: YouSir

Ummm...apparently accurate enough to decimate their targets at the industrial plant...

Anything else I can help you understand...?

YouSir

The math is the same any way you look at it in weight of munitions it can carry which is around 7200 lbs. If this new type has 6 warheads and each one has 6 sub-munitions then that is 36 200 pound sub-munitions. As I said earlier one B2 can carry over 5000 IR-guided bomblets that can take out armor vehicles or buildings, or 80 500 pound guided bombs. This isn't some game changer, and I still do not see a level of accuracy other than to hit some generalized area.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Please list the systems and show their successful tests.

Never fear. Trump the Genius will release all compartmentalized top secret info, with blueprints and control codes. "The people demand transparency!!!"

Then the hostile hackers will ground everything in the U.S. arsenal.

USA! USA! USA!
MAGA or bust!!!

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: RussianTroll

Putin bombed a Russian weapons plant?

Any links to the article you're referencing?

It is very characteristic that you also call the Russian city of Dnepropetrovsk, which when it was founded by the Russians was called Yelizovetpol, which is under the occupation of the Western authorities and was renamed by them into Dnepr, a "Russian city"
Thank you))))

Because I know NOTHING of Russian or Ukraine geography except their location on the globe, I ask very basic questions. Your O.P. read as if Putin bombed a Russian factory.

a reply to: YouSir

"The problem with that scenario...is that Russia's place is something for Russia to decide...not by imposition by neocons and progressives..."

Is Ukraine 's place something to be decided by Russia, and not Ukraine?

By a War?

a reply to: YouSir

Of course trump approves.
Russian infrastructure turning into a pile of smoking rubble will give Ukraine a much stronger position in negotiations. Both sides want to strengthen their positions.

As for NATO...
Many countries remember their Soviet era occupation years and want to join NATO to prevent a repeat. Nobody is forcing them to join anything...🤣
Yeah, being allowed to join is problematic since Russia was told it wouldn't happen .

Look out Russia! The chip on your shoulder is about to be knocked off!

Britain ‘Directly Involved’ in Ukraine War After Long-Range Missile Strikes, Says Russian Ambassador

Moscow’s ambassador to Britain asserted that the United Kingdom is now “directly involved” in the war in Ukraine after Kyiv used British-made Storm Shadow long-range missiles to strike targets inside Russia.

In the wake of outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden’s reported decision to allow Ukraine to use American long-range ballistic missiles to attack the Russian interior, London was seemingly quick to follow suit, with reports this week that Kyiv used UK-made Storm Shadows to hit targets in the Kursk region of Russia, where Ukrainian forces waged a surprise counter-invasion over the summer.

OOOO_ooooo 😄

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: YouSir

"The problem with that scenario...is that Russia's place is something for Russia to decide...not by imposition by neocons and progressives..."

Is Ukraine 's place something to be decided by Russia, and not Ukraine?

By a War?

Ummm...ask those who both facilitated and instigated this conflict...

Those would be both your and my governments...and NATO proper...

Ask Boris the uncombable Johnson...why he chose to at the behest of the Biden administration to convince the green midget to scrap the agreement to end the hostilities that had just been agreed to and signed in Turkiye...in April of 2022...

The answer for anyone actually intellectually honest...and paying attention...is that your government and my government and the majority of NATO...wanted this war...and desired to see it continue...

So..."my friend"...if you were one of those intellectually honest persons...that actually payed attention...then you would understand...and vociferously voice that understanding...by denouncing the actions of your former prime minister and of my government...that caused all of the subsequent bloodshed on the battlefield...

Somehow...I doubt you have that level of honesty...and that's something for your own psyche to struggle...and live with...

I'd love to be wrong in my assessment of your character...I really would...



YouSir

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: CriticalStinker

It is precisely because Russia has no colonial or slave-owning past that all civilized countries of the world are now entering into alliances with Russia.

We could argue semantics of what colonialism means… but the USSR in most people’s minds is going to be at least a fair comparison.

I don’t think it would be a stretch to fit in the gulag in there with slavery.

a reply to: YouSir

Me, dishonest?

I seem to remember you claiming that the UK has scrapped it's Navy...

Putin instigated this tragic and bloody War.

Nobody forced him into it.