Israel Defense Forces Shoot American Woman in the Head in Occupied West Bank

originally posted by: FlyersFan

NOPE. That's been debunked many times.
To quote you on this .....

Do you think he is trolling or truly believe it?

originally posted by: Plugit

It's their policy of making live pretty much impossible for the ppl of Palestine which don't got a real army to speak of. Of course they are just animals for them, anyone who follows Zionism pretty much think so.

They want them all death, but again they would even loose more support, so just doing it slowly but surely I guess.

At this rate, we are talking 100 years or more. I think you need to think about who feels the people there are animals. Hamas does not provide much of anything, but it still rakes in billions. That no army to speak of is 20,000 or much more and the amount of support is 100,000s.

The Muslim world could have fixed it a long time ago, but it is a thorn in Israel's backside that is used for propaganda purposes. The Muslim world still has a big role to play if they truly want it fixed, but don't hold your breath.

originally posted by: Plugit

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Plugit

You failed to give a link to the source for that information.
And one persons opinion isn't mean it's Israeli policy.
If Israel wanted to genocide the gazans ... they'd all be dead now.
Obviously it's not happening.
So no matter how much some would like to do it, it's not the Israeli plan.

Just google it? but here a few links if you like:
www.timesofisrael.com...

www.theguardian.com...

edition.cnn.com...

It's their policy of making live pretty much impossible for the ppl of Palestine which don't got a real army to speak of. Of course they are just animals for them, anyone who follows Zionism pretty much think so.

They want them all death, but again they would even loose more support, so just doing it slowly but surely I guess.

To bad they picked a militarized terrorist group to govern them. The Palestinians historically don’t have a very good track record. They’ve earned the title animals because that’s exactly how they’ve behaved in the past. Just ask Egypt, Kuwait, Lebanon, Denmark, Israel and Jordan.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Plugit

It's their policy of making live pretty much impossible for the ppl of Palestine which don't got a real army to speak of. Of course they are just animals for them, anyone who follows Zionism pretty much think so.

They want them all death, but again they would even loose more support, so just doing it slowly but surely I guess.

At this rate, we are talking 100 years or more. I think you need to think about who feels the people there are animals. Hamas does not provide much of anything, but it still rakes in billions. That no army to speak of is 20,000 or much more and the amount of support is 100,000s.

The Muslim world could have fixed it a long time ago, but it is a thorn in Israel's backside that is used for propaganda purposes. The Muslim world still has a big role to play if they truly want it fixed, but don't hold your breath.

You think it's just 30.000 deaths right? dream on, same as with Iraq, I have spoken some Iraqi refugee and his guess there are less then 1/3 of the ppl left after the war against Iraq. We talking about millions (indirect) in Iraq deaths, because it has nothing to do with 9-11 but it was an enemy (and today again pretty much) of Israel (Israel only makes enemy's!).

UN Expert Fears 'Almost the Entire Population' of Gaza Exterminated If Israel Not Stopped
www.commondreams.org...

"The range of presumable direct and indirect deaths could be between 15 and 20% of the population already by the end of this year," said U.N. Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese.

a reply to: Plugit

All they had to do was return the hostages. But Hamas likes to murder them while in captivity.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Plugit

It's their policy of making live pretty much impossible for the ppl of Palestine which don't got a real army to speak of. Of course they are just animals for them, anyone who follows Zionism pretty much think so.

They want them all death, but again they would even loose more support, so just doing it slowly but surely I guess.

At this rate, we are talking 100 years or more. I think you need to think about who feels the people there are animals. Hamas does not provide much of anything, but it still rakes in billions. That no army to speak of is 20,000 or much more and the amount of support is 100,000s.

The Muslim world could have fixed it a long time ago, but it is a thorn in Israel's backside that is used for propaganda purposes. The Muslim world still has a big role to play if they truly want it fixed, but don't hold your breath.

Exactly, they’ve had plenty of opportunities and billions of dollars to become somewhat civilized and invest in themselves. There’s no reason for their infrastructure to be the way it is. But when you elect a terrorist group as your government that’s more interested in building tunnels, stocking ammo, weapons, building bombs, stealing and hoarding billions upon billions of dollars for Hamas leaders, the Applebees is going to have to wait.

originally posted by: Plugit

You think it's just 30.000 deaths right? dream on, same as with Iraq, I have spoken some Iraqi refugee and his guess there are less then 1/3 of the ppl left after the war against Iraq. We talking about millions (indirect) in Iraq deaths, because it has nothing to do with 9-11 but it was an enemy (and today again pretty much) of Israel (Israel only makes enemy's!).

I think you know nothing of Iraq. Our war there was very short and then we tried to setup a new government. We were not going out and killing people. The large number of deaths was due to the Sunni and Shia killing each other. Once the Baʿath party was removed by us, the Sunni and Shia went all medieval on each other. I know, I was there and saw the daily reports. The end count wasn't as you suggested either, about 600k which is a huge number but not even 1% of the population. The huge hit in the population was 2006, 2007, 2008 long after any major US fighting. So, in 2000 there were 25 million, and by 2009 there were still 30 million and today there are 45 million.

As to Gaza, you can't hide the death levels you suggest. Israel would need 10 times the attacks and soldiers involved, and in the day where everyone has a camera, it just isn't happening.

a reply to: Plugit

Actually. All Hamas had to do was not break a ceasefire?

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: gortex

Left out (from OP link):

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) say they "responded with fire toward a main instigator of violent activity who hurled rocks at the forces and posed a threat to them" in the Beita area.

IDF says it was self-defense.
Probably an important and relevant point to include in the OP.

Yeah throwing rocks at Soldiers in a Highly Volatile War zone is pretty high up on the list of things that will get you shot in the Face .

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Plugit

You think it's just 30.000 deaths right? dream on, same as with Iraq, I have spoken some Iraqi refugee and his guess there are less then 1/3 of the ppl left after the war against Iraq. We talking about millions (indirect) in Iraq deaths, because it has nothing to do with 9-11 but it was an enemy (and today again pretty much) of Israel (Israel only makes enemy's!).

I think you know nothing of Iraq. Our war there was very short and then we tried to setup a new government. We were not going out and killing people. The large number of deaths was due to the Sunni and Shia killing each other. Once the Baʿath party was removed by us, the Sunni and Shia went all medieval on each other. I know, I was there and saw the daily reports. The end count wasn't as you suggested either, about 600k which is a huge number but not even 1% of the population. The huge hit in the population was 2006, 2007, 2008, but in 2000 there were 25 million, By 2009 there were still 30 million and today there are 45 million.

As to Gaza, you can't hide the death levels you suggest. Israel would need 10 times the attacks and soldiers involved, and in the day where everyone has a camera, it just isn't happening.

Very short lol? the war after 9-11 lasted over more then 10 years. The US destroyed the country (same with Libya) and which made place for terrorists yes, even though it was a war against terrorism. First with sanctions (even no medicine allowed (same as with the ppl of Palastine) making those ppl poor and giving them no future and removing their leader/government (with war, bombing everything), where chaos was reality after. Where mopst of them either died or fled to (mostly) Europe. The US brought them hell and suffering, nothing else. But yea they like doing Israel's wishes, following SATAN.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
Exactly, they’ve had plenty of opportunities and billions of dollars to become somewhat civilized and invest in themselves. There’s no reason for their infrastructure to be the way it is. But when you elect a terrorist group as your government that’s more interested in building tunnels, stocking ammo, weapons, building bombs, stealing and hoarding billions upon billions of dollars for Hamas leaders, the Applebees is going to have to wait.

The Hamas leaders are sitting on 11 to 15 billion. For 2 billion they could provide all the desalinization plants needed for the whole population there. For 1 billion they could provide independent power. 2 billion more would build a modern infrastructure.

But they make them drink sea water filtered a little through sand, they told Israel they would only pay 12 hours per day of electricity, they start the boys about 4 or 5 to play the kill the Jew games with mothers watching like it is a school sports game. There is a lot they could have done with even 1/2 the war chest they got.

originally posted by: Plugit

Very short lol? the war after 9-11 lasted over more then 10 years.

The first of these was a brief, conventionally fought war in March–April 2003, in which a combined force of troops from the United States and Great Britain (with smaller contingents from several other countries) invaded Iraq and rapidly defeated Iraqi military and paramilitary forces. It was followed by a longer second phase in which a U.S.-led occupation of Iraq was opposed by an insurgency. After violence began to decline in 2007, the United States gradually reduced its military presence in Iraq, formally completing its withdrawal in December 2011.

The actual war was very short and then we went into occupation mode of pure defense. The decline in violence by 2007 wasn't us fighting, it was the Sunni and Shia were not killing each other so much and a new government was starting to form.

The US destroyed the country (same with Libya) and which made place for terrorists yes, even though it was a war against terrorism.

We blew the crap out of Bagdad and Mosul. Mosul was the heaviest fighting in the war, but it was all over very quickly and then we sat back watching more than anything else as Iraqites raped and pillaged their own country. I feel we should have been better in all that, but Bush didn't want the death counts. ISIS did a hell of a lot more damage and deaths as they filled the vacuum we left and really did horrendous things on a large scale.

First with sanctions (even no medicine allowed (same as with the ppl of Palastine) making those ppl poor and giving them no future and removing their leader/government (with war, bombing everything), where chaos was reality after. Where mopst of them either died or fled to (mostly) Europe. The US brought them hell and suffering, nothing else. But yea they like doing Israel's wishes, following SATAN.

I disagreed with the wars, but do you have a clue as to how evil Saddam and his party were? You want to talk Satan level sh!t.

So, are we now talking about Satan? lol

a reply to: network dude

and to believe you, the IDF randomly shot a person in the head for the LOLZ.

Wouldn't be the first time.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

Yeah throwing rocks at Soldiers in a Highly Volatile War zone is pretty high up on the list of things that will get you shot in the Face .

I wonder if someone went to Ukraine and in the fighting zone started to throw rocks at either the Russian or Ukrainian soldiers what would happen?

There is a level of Darwinism in all this.

a reply to: yuppa
I thought the Romans named them Palestinians to spite the Israelites?? Is that not the usual crap I hear when presented with maps from the 1800's and earlier calling the land Palestine like my 1874 Family Bible filed in the Library of Congress? We can go back twenty years, a hundred or two thousand, whatever it takes to drive point the home, Palestinians are not human, they are just dregs of humanity, a bug to be squished under the boot. And any person that dare defend them , it is permissible to just shoot them dead as well. or quite frankly, run over them with a bulldozer. Hopefully American and British soldiers could have this leeway someday, and perhaps even our own Police officers. Why bother with courts at all??

Oh wait ... only Israeli military are permitted. Not American, British, nor Russian or Turkish or French. Only Israel has the right to be above any form of accountability or condemnation for their atrocious actions. All others must be subject to military tribunals, or court marshal or civil courts of law. No no no, we always must be certain that the state of Israel has the blank check, the absolute right to be absolved of any of its extreme violence, innocent families being forced to live in cages in their own neighborhoods be damned!

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Lets just consider the Average Palestinian ? They absolutely hate Israelis , They are raised from Birth to Hate Israelis....

River to the Sea they chant .

Now Lets consider the actual Radicalized Palestinians they relish the idea of Raping and killing Israelis for no more reason than they are Jewish Israelis.

What the world saw on October 7th was the True Personality of Palestine . Literally biting the hand that feeds them....

No other country in the world cares about or supports Palestine aside from Israel . Take Taiwan for example , China and Taiwan have had a shaky relationship since the beginning .... What do you think China would do if Taiwan just decided to attack the Coastal cities of China raping and pillaging as they went ?

China would without hesitation obliterate Taiwan .

It's a damn shame the Palestinian people are so Brain washed and filled with Hatred it really is a Shame. But having Palestine as a Neighbor just isn't an option any longer . Do I believe Israel should just commit genocide and kill every Palestinian ? No that's not what I think .

But the situation was never going to resolve itself and what happened on October 7th was an inevitable action because of Israels inaction.

a reply to: Xtrozero
I don't have to wonder, I posted videos for years of stones being thrown at American convoys in Syria and Iraq, at Turkish convoys in Syria, even ocassionally the Russian convoys in Syria. No instance has them stop and aim their weapons and fire at the crowds. Yes it was crowds.

Where was the active firefight in this situation?? What and/or how many directions were they actively being engaged from? There was not one. The IDF was responding to a protest gathering. Rachel Corrie was not standing in the middle of a firefight or an active battle zone either when she was squished by a bulldozer clearing out innocent families from their land. Frankly we have only the lying IDF who cooperates with anti-Semitic murderous Islamic extremists and murders its own people by admission to say they were even throwing rocks. There should be video documentation which would easily absolve these killers and justify the lethal force if people just saw her throwing rocks or directing others to throw rocks.


The IDF are proven liars and admitted murderers of their own people. they admit to cooperate with the likes of ISIS and had a deconfliction line . At some point you all have to stop eating up the bull# and admit to yourselves you have been had. You do not have to do it on here, there does not need to be anyone around. But you just need to be honest with yourself, because the IDF or Israeli government sure as hell never has been with anyone. Stop defending the group that admits to murdering its own people, that financed and created the same group they then tried to blame entirely for these deaths. That admits to having helped the Islamic Semite murdering radicals in Syria and beyond. that freely and openly kills journalists, protestors, little kids playing soccer on the beach. Their volunteer army is a flipping joke, if you ask me when compared to others in the world they are incompetent. The Israeli special forces are some of the most terrifyingly effective and efficient operators out there. But the regular forces are absolute garbage and showing their growing incompetence IMO.

It pisses me off we gave these psycho nukes. Now the whole world is held hostage to such an anti-semitic violent regime with virtually no accountability.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

you would not know an average Palestinian from a cockroach because you don't mingle with average Palestinians. You have only a multi-generational caracature that comes from admitted liars who murder their own people and fund and support radical Islamic terror to murder Semites across the middle east while maintaining a de-confliction line and a peaceful border . Nothing you can try and say and rationalize will ever erase those facts, period.

I have probably only ever met 3 myself that I can recall, and they all worked in little bodega corner store places. And I get better service at these places than I ever do at 7 eleven or circle K or even CVS!

a reply to: worldstarcountry

You can run cover all day long for the Palestinians but you can’t change their track record, maybe you should freshen up on that. Like the Palestinians that were allowed refuge in Kuwait only to take up arms against them when the war started. Kuwait ended up kicking everyone of them out after the war. They’ve tried to overthrow the Jordan government twice, caused hell in Denmark after Denmark gave some of them refuge. They had a lot to do with the Muslim Brotherhood also and bear some responsibility for Anwar Sadat’s murder. There’s not a single Muslim country that wants them in their country, for reasons.

I agree with you that Israel has done some bad things but stop pretending that Palestinians are the innocent angels you’re trying to make them out to be, they’re not. You know the history books don’t rewrite themselves. These countries have been going tit for tat for centuries, they have a lot of history, not all of it good. The Palestinians would love to see every last Jew exterminated off the planet. It’s their religion and a cultural mindset for them.

Crazy that there was ever a time that they coexisted and there was.

a reply to: KrustyKrab
hey man, you can keep supporting a murderous regime that executes its own citizens, lies about it, then quietly admits it later in order to get people liek yourself to lose all rational thought and support bombing apartment blocks indiscriminetly. A regime that also funds and created the same groups you mention every time you bring up Hamas. That worked with ISIS while maintaining a de-confliction line and a peaceful border while they murdered Semitic people all across the Levant. A regime that repeatedly murders American and other foreign activists NOT IN WAR ZONES but at protest gatherings.

Why can't the police just murder all protestors in North America and Europe?? Why are you not ok with that?? This is ultimately what we are discussing and you are defending it and the lying murderers who work with and fund Islamic terrorists. Why is nobody calling for the arrest and trial of the commanders who ordered the execution of the Israeli hostages?? You want everyone responsible for Oct 7 terminated? Well I was not far from that opinion. Guess what? Most of them were dead in the first month! Now we just need to apply that same standard to the commanders who ordered their own citizens dead. Are you cool with that, or do Israeli military have a blank check just to kill whoever and whenever for any reason or no reason whatsoever in a war zone, outside a war zone, at a protest, kids playing soccer on the beach whatever. Can you even list a situation where you can imagine being in any way critical of the Israeli government or military at all, especially after they have admitted to collaborating with and funding Islamic terrorists?

They say it, with their own words! But Israel folks be acting like the same zombies that still support the DNC , like they never heard or read such admissions and then keep repeating the same damn lines.

If not, you may want to start understanding why...