Israel Defense Forces Shoot American Woman in the Head in Occupied West Bank

a reply to: Vermilion

A mob of agitators who hate Israel, throwing rocks at armed Israeli soldiers, could easily overpower them and kill them or take them hostage if the soldiers didn't protect themselves. The shooting is justified. The woman got herself killed and it's her own fault. No one else's

The UN who are already investigating Israel's actions in Gaza have called for a full investigation into the shooting.

Reacting to the killing, Stéphane Dujarric, the spokesman for the UN secretary general, said: "We would want to see a full investigation of the circumstances and that people should be held accountable."

Civilians, he added, "must be protected at all times".

Jewish-Israeli activist Jonathan Pollak, who was at the protest, told BBC World Service's Newshour programme he had seen "soldiers on the rooftop aiming".

He said he had heard two separate shots, "with like a second or two distance between them".

"I heard someone calling my name, saying in English, 'Help us. We need help. We need help.' I ran towards them," he said.

He said he had then seen Ms Eygi "lying on the ground underneath an olive tree, bleeding to death from her head".

"I put my hand behind her back to try and stop the bleeding," he said. "I looked up, there was a clear line of sight between the soldiers and where we were. I took her pulse, and it was very, very weak."

He added that Friday's demonstration had been Ms Eygi's first time attending a protest with the International Solidarity Movement, a pro-Palestinian group.

In his interview with the BBC, Jonathan Pollak was asked about the IDF's statement, where the Israeli military said security forces had responded to stone-throwing.

Mr Pollak said there had been clashes but he felt that soldiers had been "under no threat".

There had been "no stone throwing" where she had been, he said.
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: Shoshanna

Ok when Israel was re made,the Arabs VOLUNTARILY gave up the land and left to form a army. Leaving voluntarily denotes you were giving up all claim to said land. They bet on the arab league winning. They lost instead. As such they have no land to be called occupied. The land the ottoman empire had held became OWNERLESS,until france and britain were given control.
Then later on the jordanians attempted to claim they were the "palestinian" people so they could try and get land to make their own state since they were kicked out of their own country. Arafatt and the KGB put the plan together to rename the jordanians to palestinians.

In short the gazans are jordanians acting like they are someone they are not.

a reply to: yuppa

Correct. There are no 'palestinians'. They are all Jordanians and Egyptians. (and Arafat who coined the term 'Palestinians' was really Egyptian). And those 'palestinians' tried to take over both Egypt and Jordan and failed. Now they are trying to take over Israel. They live like its 800AD instead of 2024AD. Can't get along with anyone and refuse to do so. An 800AD mentality.

originally posted by: gortex

Mr Pollak said there had been clashes but he felt that soldiers had been "under no threat".

There had been "no stone throwing" where she had been, he said.
www.bbc.co.uk...

And supposedly Palestinians didn’t blow up the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital …

a reply to: gortex

Look at the sentence?

There had been "no stone throwing" where she had been, he said.

???

So she moved to an area of stone throwing?

a reply to: gortex

"civilians must be protected at all times" See, the imperative to protect idiots from themselves goes a long way in explaining the world we see today. You don't enter an active war zone and pick a fight especially if the only weapon you have is a rock. Darwinism is a very efficient process if you can appreciate natural cause and effect.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: gortex

"civilians must be protected at all times" See, the imperative to protect idiots from themselves goes a long way in explaining the world we see today. You don't enter an active war zone and pick a fight especially if the only weapon you have is a rock. Darwinism is a very efficient process if you can appreciate natural cause and effect.

As said it's the west bank, Israel attacks that area, it's just as they always do, mowing the lawn (when they show sign of recovering) and later uproot them.
First with (armed) settlers taking more land and killing a few, bulldozer homes and roads. Later bombs and just flatten the area so later they can take more and more land. Of course they always have a good excuse for doing so!

Another girl shot while in her bedroom... (gay) snipers love doing that!:
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If you can't see Zionism is EVIL, doing the opposite of Jesus teachings = ANTI-CHRIST, causing hate (for JEWS!!! as well) and destruction only. Israel should be stopped, look how small and afraid they would behave without US support/weapons.

a reply to: TzarChasm

You don't enter an active war zone and pick a fight especially if the only weapon you have is a rock.

The West Bank isn't an active war zone as it isn't run by Hamas although the Israeli government plan to make it one as part of their ongoing Genocide plan.

The right to protest applies in the West Bank under International law , as the occupying power Israel has a duty to facilitate that right , they do not have the right to shoot protesters in the head.

The right to demonstrate and to protest is part and parcel of the right to freedom of expression, and it is entrenched in international human rights law. In the Occupied Territories, the right to demonstrate and protest is all the more important, because the Palestinians residents are subjugated to the control of the State of Israel, the occupying power, without any access to its centers of political power.
In this situation, demonstrations are a primary means by which Palestinians can make their voice heard and protest against the violation of their rights. According to international human rights law, it is the obligation of the occupying power to enable the exercise of freedom of expression and protest in the Occupied Territories.
law.acri.org.il...

edit on 7-9-2024 by gortex because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: gortex
The UN who are already investigating Israel's actions in Gaza have called for a full investigation into the shooting.

Um...over a dozen UN workers participated in the October 7th. massacre of Jews.

originally posted by: gortex
as part of their ongoing Genocide plan.

Israel has no genocide plan. If they wanted to genocide the so called palestinians, they'd all be dead by now. Israel has the firepower to do it. They've had the time to do it. Obviously it's not happening.

The right to protest applies in the West Bank under International law ,

Attacking armed soldiers in a volatile area is not a right. What it is ... stupidity and suicide. The soldiers have a right to defend themselves from a mob that is attacking them. The soldiers aren't going to stand there and let themselves be harmed, or kidnapped, or killed.

The Darwin award goes to the stupid woman who left the safety of her own country, went to a volatile area of the Middle East, and attacked armed soldiers who are obviously going to protect themselves.

This is a DUH moment if ever there was one.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: gortex
The UN who are already investigating Israel's actions in Gaza have called for a full investigation into the shooting.

Um...over a dozen UN workers participated in the October 7th. massacre of Jews.

The UN hire many local Palestinians , the investigation is ongoing but considering they operate in an open air prison 12 staff from the many employed doesn't seem like many.

U.N. investigators examining Israeli accusations that 12 staff from the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency UNRWA took part in the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks have closed one case due to a lack of evidence from Israel and suspended three more, U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said on Friday.
He said the inquiry by the Office for Internal Oversight Services (OIOS) continues into the remaining eight cases.
In the closed case, Dujarric said "no evidence was provided by Israel to support the allegations against the staff member" and that the U.N. is "exploring corrective administrative action to be taken in that person's case."
www.reuters.com...

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: network dude

So it's OK to shoot someone in the head for throwing stones ?

Starting to feel like I'm living in an alternate history where Hitler won the war.

The IDF have rocks thrown at them for years now. They know thats all thats coming.

You're banging your head off a brick wall here with people who refuse to be truthful and call it OK to do that. Murdering women and children.

Netenyahu is the obstacle to peace, even his fellow country people are demonstrating about it. He wont go for talks. One time he did about 45 prisoners were released.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Smotrich: It may be ‘justified’ to starve 2 million Gazans, but world won’t let us
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich implied on Monday that he believes blocking humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip is “justified and moral” even if it causes two million civilians to die of hunger, but the international community won’t allow that to happen.

“We bring in aid because there is no choice,” Smotrich said at a conference in Yad Binyamin hosted by the right-wing Israel Hayom outlet. “We can’t, in the current global reality, manage a war. Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger, even though it might be justified and moral, until our hostages are returned.

Of course they gladly would like to just kill all of them, or just leave. They are less then animals for them, they are the choosen ppl who have all the right for this land. They are like the ppl with white hair and blue eyes, which Hitler loved so much with the same logic.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge2
You're banging your head off a brick wall here with people who refuse to be truthful and call it OK to do that. Murdering women and children..

The woman attacked armed soldiers in a volatile area of the Middle East.
The soldiers protected themselves. That's not murder.
Nice try though.

a reply to: Plugit

You failed to give a link to the source for that information.
And one persons opinion isn't mean it's Israeli policy.
If Israel wanted to genocide the gazans ... they'd all be dead now.
Obviously it's not happening.
So no matter how much some would like to do it, it's not the Israeli plan.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CarlLaFong

I was hoping that, by now, you would apologize for intentionally leaving this important and relevant quote from your source quotes:

I've addressed that a couple of times , you are free to believe what the IDF say.

but you said:

Now you're making assumptions , there is no evidence that is the case.

Yet the article you brought states:

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) say they "responded with fire toward a main instigator of violent activity who hurled rocks at the forces and posed a threat to them" in the Beita area.

so we should believe a butt hurt joo hater, over the article that explains the incident, and to believe you, the IDF randomly shot a person in the head for the LOLZ. When trying to use "logic", do your best to be logical. This isn't that.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Plugit

You failed to give a link to the source for that information.
And one persons opinion isn't mean it's Israeli policy.
If Israel wanted to genocide the gazans ... they'd all be dead now.
Obviously it's not happening.
So no matter how much some would like to do it, it's not the Israeli plan.

They’re programmed and brainwashed to think otherwise. Keep that narrative alive, right?

Then you have the idiots that think someone should be able to go directly into a war zone and protest, then walk out unscathed. Whether it’s their right to do so or not, that’s just stupidity 2.0

originally posted by: worldstarcountry

The whole entire world is full of extremes, including where we all dwell. It is high time some of us stop pretending our societies behave any better than others based on our standard of living. We are all the same disgusting filthy murderous apes no matter what little symbol we worship, book we read from, language we speak or where we live on Earth. Now can we get back to the puppet masters and their lies and crimes against the taxpaying citizens of Israel?

I agree to a point, read my foot note...

All of it is a numbers game of how extreme, and how many will depend on whether it is localized or widely felt. If I rewrote your point and changed it to stealing it would read... anyone who steals is a thief, whether a loaf of bread or a bank, they are all thieves lumped together.

There are levels in everything and that directly affects the impact on others. And a higher standard of living does mean a better life, so not sure what you are saying there other than we are all terrorists just itching to get out, and there can be some truth there too, but it comes down to the simple point of to act or not to act.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Plugit

You failed to give a link to the source for that information.
And one persons opinion isn't mean it's Israeli policy.
If Israel wanted to genocide the gazans ... they'd all be dead now.
Obviously it's not happening.
So no matter how much some would like to do it, it's not the Israeli plan.

Just google it? but here a few links if you like:
www.timesofisrael.com...

www.theguardian.com...

edition.cnn.com...

It's their policy of making live pretty much impossible for the ppl of Palestine which don't got a real army to speak of. Of course they are just animals for them, anyone who follows Zionism pretty much think so.

They want them all death, but again they would even loose more support, so just doing it slowly but surely I guess.