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originally posted by: Annee
And they are not babies.
originally posted by: Annee
What I fished out of the toilet from my miscarriage was not a baby.
As for forward thinking nations, are those the ones who jail people for things they say on the internet?
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Vermilion
As for forward thinking nations, are those the ones who jail people for things they say on the internet?
If the things they say happen to inflame and incite people to do others harm Vermilion, that's a crime.
Take it you're not a Kamala fan but at least you are not climbing on the bat crap crazy Democratic states are passing laws allowing people to execute babies after birth box.
You know where i stand, a woman's body is her own concern, anything else, and she a second-class citizen and piece of chattel.
Im not going to be convinced otherwise any more than you are apt to change your feelings on the matter.
Lie.
You yourself are pro abortion.
So is Kamala.
What do you call people who celebrate their abortions?
Even though half the DNA of that child is the man's the woman is the arbiter of life and death of that child?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Fwee!
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Moon68
Even though half the DNA of that child is the man's the woman is the arbiter of life and death of that child?
And if the father of this potential child doesn't want to be a father, wants to pay for an abortion? How much is his input of 5 minutes of woo and 50% of the DNA worth then?
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: FlyersFan
So quick to want to call her names that you didn't even read her post. Her daughter is in her 50s now.
I swear. Women want to be in charge of their reproductive health. If that offends you as a man. So be it. Name calling and casting aspersions on women here won't change a thing.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: Annee
What I fished out of the toilet from my miscarriage was not a baby.
She was a dead baby ... YOUR dead baby ... who had been alive just a few hours earlier with a beating heart. What condition she is in doesn't change that fact.
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: FlyersFan
So quick to want to call her names that you didn't even read her post. Her daughter is in her 50s now.
I swear. Women want to be in charge of their reproductive health. If that offends you as a man. So be it. Name calling and casting aspersions on women here won't change a thing.
originally posted by: Moon68
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Moon68
Even though half the DNA of that child is the man's the woman is the arbiter of life and death of that child?
And if the father of this potential child doesn't want to be a father, wants to pay for an abortion? How much is his input of 5 minutes of woo and 50% of the DNA worth then?
Apparently about as much as your psychopathic opinions.
originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: fringeofthefringe
Newly Released Undercover Video from 2015?
originally posted by: Annee
Not new. Film is from 2015.
A verdict awarded the plaintiffs more than $2.2 million on November 16, 2019, and Daleiden was instructed to pay $500,000 in compensatory damages (most of which will be tripled under federal racketeering law), as well as $870,000 in punitive damages to Planned Parenthood.
I hope this becomes part of the states rights debate on abortion.
Why?
It’s none of your business or anyone else’s
How dare strangers debate my reproductive choices.
My reproductive choices are not up for debate.
Interesting use of the noun. You keep selfishly saying, "My" "my" "my"... 🤔 Aside from artificial insemination, it doesn't happen on your own. Your reproductive choices are split between you and your partner. Sometimes the precautions people deploy don't always work, and an undesired pregnancy may occur.
That pregnancy is now yours and your partners, you know the catalyst and the base that started the cells dividing , hence "the start of life". That life will continue to be alive, growing and developing and eventually becoming a mini version of yourself.
How many versions of yourself have you terminated in your lifetime?? How many possibilities did you create and then utterly destroy???
3-5? 10-15?
I don't think abortion should be cut and dry illegal, but I do want to see what alternatives (aside from abstinence) that can be used to prevent the pregnancy in the first place. I HIGHLY disagree with the serial abortionist that use it specifically for birth control.
You see, your pro-abortion logic is that its my body my choice, but think a bit deeper. You gave up half of that equation when you consensually allowed a male to enter your reproductive system.
Now you have two other partners in this. Your sex partner and the baby. They have no say though, huh? Just "My" "my" "my"....."me" "me" "me"??
I'm certainly in support of the mother surviving, and I'm also supportive of early termination for forced, nonconsensual pregnancy or birth defects.
HOWEVER, using abortion as birth control should be illegal, period. You shouldn't be able to just become a serial abortionist without some type of psychological intervention or testing. The celebratory behavior about abortion is just disgusting and wicked.
An abortion should be a painful reminder to be more responsible and take better precautions. I remember it being that way, but it's been made to be a cultural facet of biological women. Why would you wanna own that of all things?? Again, disgusting.
originally posted by: Annee
NO — what I pulled out of the toilet due to my miscarriage was a 3/4” pink “bean”.
It was NOT a baby.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: FlyersFan
"Fweedom" should always be celebrated with a smile!