Trump backs Louisiana law requiring Ten Commandments in schools

a reply to: Annee

That was my first thought. Though I opted for the comical baphomet poster, that's exactly what they are going to do.

The ACLU Church has this.

And by 'has this' I mean they'll eventually sue The State of Louisiana, when their 9" X 11" posters are rejected for equal placement. The were founded for this. For religious challenges anytime Christian God = Country a bit too much.

Knowing what their founder is about this is lighting the biggest fire of opposition yet. This might as well be a ten Commandments statue at every government office.

I don't know how well it pertains to Satan, though. This would be like if Lucifer, organized an appeal to God and demanded through legal action God grant equal acknowledgement to both the mortals and god beings.

Just not as impactful of a Bible.

But that's their devil role, to play legal challenge everytime ANY state outside Massachusetts does something theocratic that treads on the intent of the constitution. E.g. what Amendment 10 says about Amendment 1.

They are constitutional if anything.

I get it, but they appeal too hard to a federal government for my taste. Too democrat. They plead to federal law to go after the states anytime States rights infringes on secular constitutional protections or gets too one-religion.

Yet, I don't exactly oppose what they do either, we're not a Christian nation. The constitution was written by deists, with a completely different view of God. We're allowed be as spiritual or unspiritual as we want to be, with our public places ideally stripped of ANY ONE having provenance.

I say put the freaking manger on the courthouse lawn so long as you put it across from a Saturnalia one, and adjacent to the Hanukkah, Kwanza, and Festivus celebrations.

And that aligns me with TST by default, even going after states rights has me selectively on edge.

In all honestly, I'm a total hypocrite on this, because the proliferation of Pride Month rainbows, which I have no problem with, would appear like a religiously iconic flag to an ET with no reference to our culture.

They land in June, exit their craft and say, "the rainbow appears to be a central theme of their culture. Along with shapes on buildings such as stars, moons, and crosses"

They'd end up thinking Lucky Charms was a religious sacrament food.

And I can't help but think the religiousity is more reactive than anything else. It's like a parasite that feeds off each other now. And I don't mean TST, I mean "The Woke" and "The Religious".

And while I'm most definitely woke on many issues, I understand the recoil was going to be a tit for tat litigious power play as soon as woke values began undermining religious ones. So ingrained is its opposition to one another there are trauma arguments to be made all around.

We are now in that 200-325 CE phase where one religious ethos replaces or attempts to replace another. In this case Rainbow-laden secular humanism, which I'd be lying to say I don't endorse. I just wish it's implementation was less like ripping off a band-aid or heavy-handed.

a reply to: Annee

Derp


Maybe look at the post I was replying to, which was a reply to me.

I didn't bring it up. But I addressed the issue with facts.

Maybe you'll learn something.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Sookiechacha

"Works" is posting the Ten Commandments. No?

No. In this case, simply posting scripture is an act of faith, not works; faith that the scripture itself will do the work that the legislators are too weak and lame to do themselves.

a reply to: network dude

I was aware that not everyone believes in God, but I wasn't aware that they couldn't mentally deal with seeing the 10 commandments in print.

What do you think these non-god believers take away when they see 10 Commandments shoved in their faces by their government? Maybe, that the government is wrapping itself in piety and fake holiness, pretending to be ordained by the one and only GOD that YOU MUST WORSHIP AND OBEY?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Well “In God we trust” is the national motto.
It’s nothing new.
Doesn’t seem to stop anybody from using the currency.
It’s entertaining to finally see a state step up and troll the snowflakes.

a reply to: Vermilion

Well “In God we trust” is the national motto.

Yeah. "In God We Trust" is printed across our money, because we trust in money, and money is America's God.

The 10 Comandments are, however, antithetical to the American Dream and American life.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Vermilion

Well “In God we trust” is the national motto.

Yeah. "In God We Trust" is printed across our money, because we trust in money, and money is America's God.

The 10 Comandments are, however, antithetical to the American Dream and American life.

That’s another great outcome of Louisiana stepping up.
This will light many good conversations about how this world is too consumed with greed instead of positive moral principles.
It’s a win win.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

I was aware that not everyone believes in God, but I wasn't aware that they couldn't mentally deal with seeing the 10 commandments in print.

What do you think these non-god believers take away when they see 10 Commandments shoved in their faces by their government? Maybe, that the government is wrapping itself in piety and fake holiness, pretending to be ordained by the one and only GOD that YOU MUST WORSHIP AND OBEY?

can't say what a non believer thinks, but seeing the 10 commandments doesn't seem much different than seeing the current laws that stem from those very rules. If seeing a paper that tells you not to kill, lie, or steal, upsets you so much that you are outraged, you might be a pittiful little snowflake. Unless you are the kind of person who would lie, steal and kill. Then I totally get it. When you kill, do you do it close in, or from a distance?

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

It’s entertaining to finally see a state step up and troll the snowflakes.

They certainly do better with trolling snowflakes than improving their school systems.

40th in k-12 and 47th in higher education.

Seems they’re more interested using their time governing to dunk on people than invest in their youth.

a reply to: Degradation33

The Satanic Temple does take kind of a comical approach IMO.

They go for equality. If a religious statue is put on public land they then bring theirs and put next to it.

They state they only go where they are requested. That they don’t seek out cases.

The ACLU is already on this.

a reply to: network dude

can't say what a non believer thinks, but seeing the 10 commandments doesn't seem much different than seeing the current laws that stem from those very rules.

What laws?

Is it illegal to have "other gods" above the biblical god?
Is it illegal to have idols?
Is it illegal to swear using the words god or Jesus, or any other deity's name?
Is it illegal to work, or hire servants to work for you, on any given day of the week?
Is it illegal to not "honor" your parents?
Is it illegal to lie?
Is it illegal to have sex with your neighbor's wife, or covet their stuff?

I'll give you 2. It's illegal to murder and to steal....sorta, but not always, for either.

a reply to: Vermilion

This will light many good conversations about how this world is too consumed with greed instead of positive moral principles.

Not one of the principles of the 10 Commandments are absolute in positive moral principles. However, every last one of them are a point of social control and a demand for conformity.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

It’s entertaining to finally see a state step up and troll the snowflakes.

They certainly do better with trolling snowflakes than improving their school systems.

40th in k-12 and 47th in higher education.

Seems they’re more interested using their time governing to dunk on people than invest in their youth.

I worked as a Quality Control assistant at Nissan. My boss was British.

His biggest complaint about working with Asians is that they could not think or work independently.

Test scores mean someone is good at taking tests.

originally posted by: Disgusted123
So when a first grader asks, "What is adultery", should the teacher explain it's when Trump has sex on his third wife with a porn star and then pays hush money to cover it up to win an election?

Yeah, it's crazy to watch the disconnect, isn't it?

I read a comment on this a few days ago and went something like this:

The evangelists want the Commandments in schools, and they want to teach children no to cheat, not to lie, not to commit adultery, not to steal etc.

But then come November the same people will go out and vote for a person who does all those things.

How do they explain that to their kids when asked?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

can't say what a non believer thinks, but seeing the 10 commandments doesn't seem much different than seeing the current laws that stem from those very rules.

What laws?

Is it illegal to have "other gods" above the biblical god?
Is it illegal to have idols?
Is it illegal to swear using the words god or Jesus, or any other deity's name?
Is it illegal to work, or hire servants to work for you, on any given day of the week?
Is it illegal to not "honor" your parents?
Is it illegal to lie?
Is it illegal to have sex with your neighbor's wife, or covet their stuff?

I'll give you 2. It's illegal to murder and to steal....sorta, but not always, for either.

Yea, those rules aren't really a thing in today's society. Folks like you charmpion people's right to steal, lie, cheat, and disrespect their parents. Living Godless in a Godless society sounds like a hoot.

So if you see something religious, do you burst into flames, or just start shaking and cussing? It would be fascinating to see.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: Disgusted123
So when a first grader asks, "What is adultery", should the teacher explain it's when Trump has sex on his third wife with a porn star and then pays hush money to cover it up to win an election?

Yeah, it's crazy to watch the disconnect, isn't it?

I read a comment on this a few days ago and went something like this:

The evangelists want the Commandments in schools, and they want to teach children no to cheat, not to lie, not to commit adultery, not to steal etc.

But then come November the same people will go out and vote for a person who does all those things.

How do they explain that to their kids when asked?

I suppose they just tell them voting for Biden was their only option becuase they ate up the propoganda a bit too much and decided to vote for open borders and a sh!t economy because Orang Man Bad. Don't worry, teaching kids not to be douche bags won't be a totall loss. They might even become involved in church and not bother asking why you are.....well......

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

It’s entertaining to finally see a state step up and troll the snowflakes.

They certainly do better with trolling snowflakes than improving their school systems.

40th in k-12 and 47th in higher education.

Seems they’re more interested using their time governing to dunk on people than invest in their youth.

I worked as a Quality Control assistant at Nissan. My boss was British.

His biggest complaint about working with Asians is that they could not think or work independently.

Test scores mean someone is good at taking tests.

yea, and those slanty eyes makes them look like they are up to something. And those black folk, don't even get me started on them. Amirite.

a reply to: Annee

That’s fair.

There’s a lot of different types of people, and some probably don’t test well but have a keen sense of business and sensibilities that get them far in life.

But I think being in the bottom 20 percentile of the country for education is indicative of more than some nuance. I think it shows where a states priorities are.

Education shouldn’t be political, and for many it isn’t. Utah and Florida have similar political stances to Louisiana yet they’re both in the top 10.

Typically as someone who leans libertarian I stray away from big spending measures. Education is one of the rare things in government that isn’t spending, it’s an investment. I think the quality of education in one’s state has a direct correlation and velocity to how it does in 20 years as a whole.

a reply to: network dude

Yea, those rules aren't really a thing in today's society.

Good! You agree that the 10 Commandments have no place in today's society. In fact, those rules are the kind of rules that our Founding Fathers fought against and worked to keep out of the New World Order they were creating in The United States of America.

You're a Freemason, right? You know what's what.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Sookiechacha

It’s entertaining to finally see a state step up and troll the snowflakes.

They certainly do better with trolling snowflakes than improving their school systems.

40th in k-12 and 47th in higher education.

Seems they’re more interested using their time governing to dunk on people than invest in their youth.

I worked as a Quality Control assistant at Nissan. My boss was British.

His biggest complaint about working with Asians is that they could not think or work independently.

Test scores mean someone is good at taking tests.

yea, and those slanty eyes makes them look like they are up to something. And those black folk, don't even get me started on them. Amirite.

Do you know the difference between racism and culture?