Trump backs Louisiana law requiring Ten Commandments in schools

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: watchitburn

We can't expose our children to any kind of code of ethics, that would be terrible.

Our laws are a code of ethics. The Ten Commandments is a code of morality based on the worship of a biblical deity.

How is this different from "In God We Trust" being on U.S. Money and on walls of Courtrooms, and swearing on Bibles in Courts? 😃

You assume that just because it's there, they got away with it, so it's not a promotion of religion?

Personally, I interpret that phrase as the United States of America's god is money. I don't see how one could read it any other way. So, there it is, more in your face blasphemy, just like this pretend pious act of forcing the 10 Commandments on Louisianan children. Blind 'em with hypocrisy as early as possible! AMIRTE?

I was asking you for the difference. 😃

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: watchitburn

We can't expose our children to any kind of code of ethics, that would be terrible.

Our laws are a code of ethics. The Ten Commandments is a code of morality based on the worship of a biblical deity.

How is this different from "In God We Trust" being on U.S. Money and on walls of Courtrooms, and swearing on Bibles in Courts? 😃

You assume that just because it's there, they got away with it, so it's not a promotion of religion?

Personally, I interpret that phrase as the United States of America's god is money. I don't see how one could read it any other way. So, there it is, more in your face blasphemy, just like this pretend pious act of forcing the 10 Commandments on Louisianan children. Blind 'em with hypocrisy as early as possible! AMIRTE?

How did you determine I was assuming anything? 😧

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Do you also believe that the states can punish individuals for criticizing them? What other parts of the 1st Amendment don't apply to states? What other parts of the Bill of Rights can the states ignore?

Can you post where a state did that? This is not a First Amendment event. The State can force schools to post pretty much anything they want including the 10 Commandments, or a pride flag.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy

They aren't mandating religion.

Don't try and Gaslight us! FFS, the very 1st Commandment is THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY GODS BEFORE ME

Are they making the children worship Christianity?

No.

This is silly talk.

a reply to: Degradation33

This is a problem for you , but I bet DEI , CRT and pornographic image 'sex ed' books in the kids school's library is perfectly fine and acceptable isn't it?

Calling someone a preferred gender MANDATED
DEI MANDATED
Not allowing American flag shirts in schools MANDATED

Allowing the 10 Commandments to be displayed PANIC and obviously MANDATING Christianity

lol

I guess MANDATING a leftist ideology is okay.

originally posted by: Degradation33
www.cbsnews.com...

Former President Donald Trump told a group of evangelicals they "cannot afford to sit on the sidelines" of the 2024 election, imploring them at one point to "go and vote, Christians, please!"

 Trump also endorsed displaying the Ten Commandments in schools and elsewhere while speaking to a group of politically influential evangelical Christians in Washington on Saturday. He drew cheers as he invoked a new law signed in Louisiana this week that makes it the first state to require the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom.

I'm sure The Satanic Temple will be all over this in no time. Booking the flight 2 days ago.

I know "the government" doesn't necessarily refer to the states, but this seems like a blatent move to make a specific doctrine compulsory. Could they just as easily enforce The Lord's Prayer after The Pledge of Allegience?

Do states have the right to instill a theocracy. Is that exempt from the first ammendment? Will they have to allow the winged transgender goat have a poster too?

I'm all for free religious practice and states rights, but this seems destined for The Supreme Court. I can't wait for the argument how "The State (of Louisiana) Establishing a religion" is constitutional.

So I'm gonna ask it, because compulsory religion troubles me, does making America great again, also mean making America Christian again? And if so, would this be happening if it wasn't for the attempted woke normalization.

Is 10 Commandments in every classroom a round-about response to 38 genders?

Can we expect other spiritual literature to be added to this proposal? There's at least 4 or 5 other worthy inclusions for the sake of culture. There's more to enlightenment and salvation than just Christianity. Think of it like the Rosetta stone of scholastic diligence, putting every "top 10" from millennia worth of civilizations on the same wall together.

Making any law inserting theology into a federally regulated institution is a controversial move regardless.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Can you post where a state did that?

You said "that" when you posted this:

if a state elects to post something like the Ten Commandments it is not a constitutional challenge.

This is not a First Amendment event.

Why isn't it?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What other parts of the 1st Amendment do you think can states ignore.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I guess MANDATING a leftist ideology is okay.

It is kind of funny how the left can mandate dozens of things and then get triggered over this. It's like joking that Trump has brain issues while saying there is nothing wrong with Biden. I just want to look at these people and say WTF reality do you all live in?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy

They aren't mandating religion.

Don't try and Gaslight us! FFS, the very 1st Commandment is THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY GODS BEFORE ME

Are they making the children worship Christianity?

No.

This is silly talk.

That's part of the irony, hypocrisy and blasphemy. Jesus Christ, according to the 1st Commandment, is an illegal deity that Christians put before GOD.

But somehow, Christians want to conflate the Old Testament war God of the Volcano with some guy named Jesus of Nazareth as GOD incarnate, murdered and ascended. Go figure!?

It's all so convoluted, on purpose!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

You said "that" when you posted this:

"if a state elects to post something like the Ten Commandments it is not a constitutional challenge."

And so how did you read any connection in your statement of "Do you also believe that the states can punish individuals for criticizing them?" with my statement?

Why isn't it?
'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'

What other parts of the 1st Amendment do you think can states ignore.

That little part that says, "Congress shall make no laws" A state isn't Congress and isn't federal as that implies. I know what it says BTW...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I’m told that since I’m a man, abortion issues should be none of my business.
This is a Louisiana issue so applying that same logic seems to say that if you aren’t a Louisianan then it’s none of your business.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

But somehow, Christians want to conflate the Old Testament war God of the Volcano with some guy named Jesus of Nazareth as GOD incarnate, murdered and ascended. Go figure!?

It's all so convoluted, on purpose!

Almost as bad as thinking there can be 1000 pronouns and a man can be a woman by choice.

a reply to: Degradation33

First 12 years of my education were spent in parochial schools.


Not one classroom had the Ten Commandments posted on any wall, that I can remember.


Of course, we had, and actually read books back in the day.

a reply to: Xtrozero

That little part that says, "Congress shall make no laws" A state isn't Congress and isn't federal as that implies. I know what it says BTW...

That "little part" prefaces the entire 1st Amendment. So, I'm going to ask you again. Which other parts of the 1st Amendment do you think US states can ignore.

If states like Louisiana can, by law, legally mandate that the religious law of Moses' Ten Commandments" be placed in every public-school classroom, what other tenets of the 1st Amendment do you think states can, by law, legally violate?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

So, I'm going to ask you again. Which other parts of the 1st Amendment do you think US states can ignore.

Louisiana doesn't force compliance on anyone with any religion. You can read them or not, you can agree with them or not...
Why do you not have the same level of constitutional convictions when comes to your liberal states that actually do crap on the 2nd amendment with laws?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Louisiana doesn't force compliance on anyone with any religion.

Louisiana is forcing every classroom in every public school in its state to post a copy of the biblical law that Moses gave the Israelites, called the 10 Commandments.

You're musing about how nobody is forced to actually read them, or follow them, is lame. That kind of attitude fosters rebellion and empty rhetorical arguments of who has authority and why. In the long run, the acceptance of the hypocrisy is bad for the children.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Degradation33

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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Pride flags don't turn kids gay, why would the 10 Commandments turn kids Christian?