Putin issues fresh demands to Ukraine to end war

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

The point your missing is people are getting rich again for the industrial military complex with people in the Ukraine getting rich off US aid in a government as corrupt as Russia while people are being used as cannon fodder. Funny people like Biden want aid floating around than doing something to actually end the war. If NATO wants to stop the slow kill, go fight.

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

For once, I agree with you.

That's right. We have built a large portion of our economy around killing people.

As a % less so than Russia now.

It just tje Russan economy is so much smaller.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

No, I do not revel in killing. It's a humanitarian tragedy that could have been avoided if the US and NATO were not so hell bent on dominating and plundering the entire world.

Your point is typically refutable.


Easily refutable, I might add.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

The point your missing is people are getting rich again for the industrial military complex with people in the Ukraine getting rich off US aid in a government as corrupt as Russia while people are being used as cannon fodder. Funny people like Biden want aid floating around than doing something to actually end the war. If NATO wants to stop the slow kill, go fight.

Somepeople always get rich from conflict.

I am sure they should thank Putin every day for starting it.

The average Ukranian or Russian not so much.

originally posted by: charlest2

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

No, I do not revel in killing. It's a humanitarian tragedy that could have been avoided if the US and NATO were not so hell bent on dominating and plundering the entire world.

On a thread about Russia invading another country.

a reply to: charlest2

More hand wringing self hatred?

Of course, Putin is not Hell bent on the same thing.

Oh, no.

As for not revelling in killing, your own posting record, which we all can see, says otherwise.

You find it amusing.

As in:

"They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine."

Nice.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

The point your missing is people are getting rich again for the industrial military complex with people in the Ukraine getting rich off US aid in a government as corrupt as Russia while people are being used as cannon fodder. Funny people like Biden want aid floating around than doing something to actually end the war. If NATO wants to stop the slow kill, go fight.

Somepeople always get rich from conflict.

I am sure they should thank Putin every day for starting it.

The average Ukranian or Russian not so much.

Way to justify it. 😆👎

How about stopping the grift and stopping the war at the same time.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
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Somepeople always get rich from conflict.

So. Let’s give billions to a corrupt government with no oversight where it’s easy to milk the flow of free cash? A government Biden has ties to and used a billion has a hostage?

a reply to: charlest2

Easily refutable, I might add.

Yet you haven't.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
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Somepeople always get rich from conflict.

So. Let’s give billions to a corrupt government with no oversight where it’s easy to milk the flow of free cash? A government Biden has ties to and used a billion has a hostage?

Billions to a country defending itself from invasion.

But yes everything is about biden...

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

How are those North Korean shells by the way?

They are killing Ukrainians just fine, I imagine.

Which you seem to revel in while missing again the point.

The point your missing is people are getting rich again for the industrial military complex with people in the Ukraine getting rich off US aid in a government as corrupt as Russia while people are being used as cannon fodder. Funny people like Biden want aid floating around than doing something to actually end the war. If NATO wants to stop the slow kill, go fight.

Somepeople always get rich from conflict.

I am sure they should thank Putin every day for starting it.

The average Ukranian or Russian not so much.

Way to justify it. 😆👎

How about stopping the grift and stopping the war at the same time.

Would love the war to stop.

Remind me who is invading who again?

a reply to: Vermilion

I know how much they hate the Russians.....

Err.....no we don't.
I quite like Russians, they have a very good sense of humour, very dry. And they love a drink.
I've met quite a few, have you?

I don't like bullies and I don't like Putin.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Simple logistics is a contributing factor in Russia's favor here. That and superior numbers in manpower. The only way Ukraine can win this is if NATO sends troops into Ukraine and if that happens, it's Katie bar the door. All hell will be loosed.

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Simple logistics is a contributing factor in Russia's favor here. That and superior numbers in manpower. The only way Ukraine can win this is if NATO sends troops into Ukraine and if that happens, it's Katie bar the door. All hell will be loosed.

Not sure why you think logistics works in Russias favour here.

Into third year and Putin is still not near winning.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Vermilion

I know how much they hate the Russians.....

Err.....no we don't.
I quite like Russians, they have a very good sense of humour, very dry. And they love a drink.
I've met quite a few, have you?

I don't like bullies and I don't like Putin.

Well said.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

When a steel trap closes, nothing gets in or out.

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

When a steel trap closes, nothing gets in or out.

When the pink squirrel dances, lollipops taste of brocoli.

a reply to: charlest2

What "steel trap"?

How's your Black Sea fleet doing?

😂

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

"There's no smoke without t the worm turning, Reggie ".

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Vermilion

I know how much they hate the Russians.....

Err.....no we don't.
I quite like Russians, they have a very good sense of humour, very dry. And they love a drink.
I've met quite a few, have you?

I don't like bullies and I don't like Putin.

I’m not talking about the Russian citizens and you probably knew that.
I have zero issues with them either.
Nice folks.
I’ve a totally also met a few Ukrainians.
The most recent family I met was in September 2022 when I moved to Texas.
We hit it off quite well because they play hockey.
A 19 year old son and his dad.
I thought it was strange at the time that they were fighting age males not in Ukraine fighting for their country.
They said they’d been there about 6 months.
That means they ran away from Ukraine in March 2022.
A couple months later they moved again.
Interesting.