Global Flood explains Oil Deposits and Geological layers

originally posted by: FlyersFan
The plants would all have been killed off. The soil would be completely ruined with salt and poisons and incapable of supporting plant life. And there would be no insects for pollination. etc etc

If the water that emerged from beneath the earth, as well as the rain from above, were not highly saline, then the water would not have been a toxic level of salinity. There's also plenty of plants that grow in high salinity that may have helped equilibrate the soil afterwards. The density of saltwater may have also formed a gradual barrier between the less dense fresh water that would layer towards the top.

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originally posted by: cooperton
Yeah that's kind of what I am thinking. If pressure from earth's core can make magma emerge from deep places, then it certainly could do the same with water.

AS BrucellaOrchitis showed. That isn't liquid sweet water. So your theory doesn't hold.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
AS BrucellaOrchitis showed. That isn't liquid sweet water. So your theory doesn't hold.

As i told you in the post prior, OH- and H+ ions are begging to bond together to form water. When the force that was keeping them apart is relived, it would be a massive flood of water formation

originally posted by: Kurokage

And if you take that list literally it proves your myth didn't happen! Thanks for that

It doesn't prove it didn't happen, if anything it is corroborating evidence that people know the pre-flood people lived longer.

originally posted by: cooperton
If the water that emerged from beneath the earth, as well as the rain from above, were not highly saline, then the water would not have been a toxic level of salinity.

It would have been non-sweet water. Salty. Toxic from the minerals below. It would have killed the soil

There's also plenty of plants that grow in high salinity that may have helped equilibrate the soil afterwards. The density of saltwater may have also formed a gradual barrier between the less dense fresh water that would layer towards the top.

NOTHING would have grown. EVERYTHING would have died from the cold poisoned water under high pressure for a year, in the darkness with no sunlight.

originally posted by: cooperton
Yeah that's kind of what I am thinking. If pressure from earth's core can make magma emerge from deep places, then it certainly could do the same with water.

I still think that amount of water would be explosive, not merely a torrent. A massive explosion of water in North America, followed by a tsunami - but you're still left with where did all that extra water go afterwards?

originally posted by: FlyersFan
It's the historical record. YOU brought up 'historical record'. Nephilim are not historical record.

Annunaki, Titans, and Nephilim are all referring to the same divine creatures that came down and sub-ordinated humankind. I know I know, you think they're all lying because you have to believe a bunch of secular scientist's research that you can't understand on your own.

originally posted by: cooperton
As i told you in the post prior, OH- and H+ ions are begging to bond together to form water. When the force that was keeping them apart is relived, it would be a massive flood of water formation .

That's your opinion and based on science it's a false one.
You are not a geologist. You keep getting it wrong.

originally posted by: cooperton
Annunaki, Titans, and Nephilim are all referring to the same divine creatures that came down and sub-ordinated humankind..

Myth, Myth and Myth. There is ZERO evidence to support your statement.
Historical record, as you say, says something very different.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

"As i told you in the post prior, OH- and H+ ions are begging to bond together to form water. When the force that was keeping them apart is relived, it would be a massive flood of water formation"

That's your opinion and based on science it's a false one.

No it's not my opinion. OH- and H+ bonding to form water is like the fundamental fact of acid-base chemistry.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

I still think that amount of water would be explosive, not merely a torrent. A massive explosion of water in North America, followed by a tsunami - but you're still left with where did all that extra water go afterwards?

It probably was very cataclysmic! I would imagine enormous tsunamis raging on the coastlines.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis
- but you're still left with where did all that extra water go afterwards?

Exactly. And I gave the facts showing that it would have to evaporate and it would take 12 million years to do it. And even then it would just get 'moved around' as was said ... it would still have to be in the atmosphere and the rain cycle, etc. It clearly isn't.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Exactly. And I gave the facts showing that it would have to evaporate and it would take 12 million years to do it. And even then it would just get 'moved around' as was said ... it would still have to be in the atmosphere and the rain cycle, etc. It clearly isn't.

Already went over this, it wouldn't need to evaporate, it went back underground where most of it came from.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Myth, Myth and Myth. There is ZERO evidence to support your statement.
Historical record, as you say, says something very different.

Lol well yeah if you just ignore all the recorded history that disagrees with your ideology then sure, you can believe your ancestors were four-legged fish f$%^ers

originally posted by: cooperton
No it's not my opinion. OH- and H+ bonding to form water is like the fundamental fact of acid-base chemistry.

As BrucellaOrchitis showed, what you are calling 'water' is not and wouldn't ever be. There is NOT enough water in those rocks to fill the earth to overflowing Mt Everest. There simply is not.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis
- but you're still left with where did all that extra water go afterwards?

Exactly. And I gave the facts showing that it would have to evaporate and it would take 12 million years to do it. And even then it would just get 'moved around' as was said ... it would still have to be in the atmosphere and the rain cycle, etc. It clearly isn't.

Even with evaporation the water would still be here on Earth water does not disappear they say we are drinking the same water the dinosaurs did .

So did these people build a magical shield to stop the water or something? Or there wasn't a global flood and thats how these people have a continual existence through the 'Great Flood'?

In the 4th millennium BCE, several ancient civilizations — notably Ancient Egypt and the Indus Valley — had existed, and continued to exist, without any sign of total extinction from a global flood. Egypt has a continuous written history going back to about 3100 BCE, (plus archaeological evidence of continuous habitation going back to 9000 BCE — see also Young Earth Creationism) and the only floods they talked about were the annual flood of the Nile River which irrigated their crops.

originally posted by: cooperton
Already went over this, it wouldn't need to evaporate, it went back underground where most of it came from.

It wouldn't just be able to redrain. It wouldn't work that way. It would have to evaporate.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Lol well yeah if you just ignore all the recorded history that disagrees with your ideology ...

That's what you are doing. There is NO RECORDED HISTORY of those three myths. NONE. No collaborating evidence to support your notions. NONE. YOU are the one ignoring actual recorded history that disagrees with your ideology. Not me.

originally posted by: cooperton
It probably was very cataclysmic! I would imagine enormous tsunamis raging on the coastlines.

Then there should be substantial evidence to support that - which there isn't.

And then we have the food and fresh water that the boat would have to carry for the animals ....

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Feeding mammals requires about 15 kcal/kg of body weight per day (that varies widely: for shrews, for example, it's on the order of 250 kcal/kg. That is, 1600 tons of animals would consume something on the order of 32,000,000 kcal/day, probably more because the vast majority of genera are physically much smaller than humans. For six months, that would come to at least 4,800,000,000 kcal. Even if the food were entirely fat (the most calorie-dense food), that would require 53,333 kg (roughly 56 tons) of food. But since ungulates mostly eat grass or hay, we're talking a lot more food--each elephant consumes 65+ kg of forage a day and other large ungulates consume some tens of kg of food per day--the four elephants (two genera) alone would consume 260 kg daily, or more than 50 tons during six months. For that matter, since the Flood followed the Fall, many "kinds" would have to consume meat, which you can't preserve that long except by drying, requiring enormous amounts of fresh water in addition to that consumed by most animals--mammals require perhaps three liters of water per 100 kg per day. Those poor elephants have to consume among them some 750 liters (200 gallons) of water per day. Assuming the oceans were so diluted by the rain as to make the water potable (highly unlikely), the ability of the ark to carry cargo would be less--only about 98% of my original estimate.

The Noahs Ark flood was supposedly approximately 2345 B.C. The following Links give the basics of each of the Ancient Egyptian Dynasties of that era and their approximate time periods. No break in their cultures during the alleged Noahs Ark time period. Not before and not afterwards either. Plenty of people and entire 'dynasties' during a time when only a handful of people speaking the language of Noah were supposedly on the planet. Oh ... and the artifacts are all in the same language so the 'the world all spoke one language before the Tower of Babel' is proven false too, but that's the topic for another thread.

The Fourth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2613 BC–ca. 2494 BC - The Fourth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty IV) is characterized as a "golden age" of the Old Kingdom of Egypt. Dynasty IV lasted from c. 2613 to 2494 BC.[1] It was a time of peace and prosperity as well as one during which trade with other countries is documented.

The Fifth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

The Fifth Dynasty pharaohs reigned for approximately 150 years, from the early 25th century BC until the mid 24th century BC.

The Sixth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2345 BC–c. 2181 BC - The Sixth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty VI), along with the Third, Fourth and Fifth Dynasty, constitutes the Old Kingdom of Dynastic Egypt.

The Seventh Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

 2181 BC

The Eighth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2181 BC–ca. 2160 BC - The Eighth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty VIII) is a poorly known and short-lived line of pharaohs reigning in rapid succession in the early 22nd century BC, likely with their seat of power in Memphis.

The Ninth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2160 BC–c. 2130 BC - The Ninth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty IX) is often combined with the 7th, 8th, 10th and early 11th Dynasties under the group title First Intermediate Period.

The Tenth Dynasty of Ancient Egypt

2130 BC–ca. 2040 BC - The Tenth Dynasty of ancient Egypt (Dynasty X) is often combined with the 7th, 8th, 9th and early 11th Dynasties under the group title First Intermediate Period

Egypts 11th Dynasty

The Eleventh Dynasty of ancient Egypt (notated Dynasty XI; c. 2150 BC – c. 1991 BC) is a well-attested group of rulers. Its earlier members before Pharaoh Mentuhotep II are grouped with the four preceding dynasties to form the First Intermediate Period, whereas the later members are considered part of the Middle Kingdom. They all ruled from Thebes in Upper Egypt.

The Twelfth Dynasy of Ancient Egypt

The chronology of the Twelfth Dynasty is the most stable of any period before the New Kingdom. The Turin Royal Canon gives 213 years (1991–1778 BC).

China ... unbroken historical record all through the Noahs Flood time period.
NO WORLD WIDE FLOOD

Emperor Yao
2356 – 2255 BCE are the accepted dates for him.

He went on to become mythological in stature becoming demi-gods in Chinese tradition. During Emperor Yao's reign it is recorded that there were great floods. The rivers overflowed and there was great destruction. But they survived and the culture went on.

Then came the Xia Dynasty 2100–1600 B.C.E
PLENTY of Chinese people around to create a dynasty and a whole people to rule over.

During this time, there is archeological and historical evidence of the Longshan culture flourishing in north-east China. 3000 BCE - c. 1700 BCE. READ HERE .

The Longshan culture developed from the early Dawenkou tradition, also in Shandong province, from around 3000 BCE, and would then replace the well-established Yangshao culture in northern and central China. By the first quarter of the 2nd millennium BCE the Longshan culture, after experiencing some centuries of population decline for as yet unknown reasons, began to evolve into the Bronze age culture which would eventually form the Shang dynasty (c. 1600-1046 BCE).

The frequent raised mounds within the walls at Longshan settlements and the presence of dwellings outside its perimeter suggest that only the elite residences were thus protected. At the even larger site of Taosi, which dates to 2600-2000 BCE, the wall encloses some 2.8 million square metres. Taosi includes cave and semi-subterranean dwellings, as well as a wall-enclosed cemetery. Although all tombs are located in the same ground, they indicate at least three distinct social levels.