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How did the Koalas and Kangaroos get from Australia to the Middle East?
How did Noah get a years worth of Euchalyptus and keep it fresh to feed the Koalas?

Eucalyptus Facts

Again - How did the ostriches get from Africa to the Middle East? How did Noah get a full years supply of seeds, roots, grasses, insects, rodents and lizards to feed the ostriches did Noah keep those rodents and lizards alive and fresh for the ostriches?

How would Noah have taken care of the ostriches? He didn't know them and wouldn't have known what they eat. And even if he did know what they ate, how did he get a years supply of African seeds, roots, grasses and insects to feed them? And how did he keep those fresh for a year?

Noah would have known NOTHING about ostriches. He would not have known that they require GRAVEL to be included into their diet. The ostriches would have died from neglect because Noah wouldn't have known to take a year supply of gravel on board the boat or each ostrich.

Ostrich Facts

Waiting on you to find the faulty math you referred to

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Not fast enough to keep feeding all the ant eating animals.
And how did he catch the years supply of ants for each of the animals?
What did he feed them?

Have you ever went outside and looked under anything ever? There's a chance there's a whole colony of ants. In people's houses in the summer sometimes people can't stop ants from going all over the place

Hey genius ... WHERE DID NOAH GET A YEARS SUPPLY OF HONEY to feed all the ant eaters? How did he store it to keep it fresh?

These are all very easy to google answers, honey can last for decades, even centuries, given they know how to store it. No reason he wouldn't have been stockpiling honey

a reply to: cooperton


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a reply to: cooperton

Aye, but the ark did not have an unlimited supply of honey.

And even if they had bees, well global floods and all that jazz means they could not have been making any more.

You must see the problems associated with this tale, why cling on to something that's impossible cooperton?

Is it not better simply to accept the tale for what it is and get on with reality?

As the reality is, its a parable, that even the majority of religious people can accept as such as opposed to having to be taken literally.

originally posted by: cooperton
Waiting on you to find the faulty math you referred to

Yeah .. you keep waiting. You haven't adequately answered ANY of the questions I put forward for 63 pages. I'm not going to take the time to educate you in math and termites until after you adequately answer all the questions I put forward first.

Have you ever went outside and looked under anything ever? There's a chance there's a whole colony of ants. In people's houses in the summer sometimes people can't stop ants from going all over the place

That's NOT a years supply of ants for every animal that eats ants. And it takes an enormous amount of time to gather them ... by the time you gather some, the earlier ones gathered would have died. Gathering a years supply of ants for each ant eating animal is IMPOSSIBLE for Noah and his family. Remember, they would have been busy building the ark and wouldn't have had 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, year after year, to go around the planet collecting small colonies of ants and keeping them alive for the boat trip.

These are all very easy to google answers, honey can last for decades, even centuries, given they know how to store it. No reason he wouldn't have been stockpiling honey

ONLY when correctly stored ... which couldn't have happened on the ark with no way to seal it and uneven temperatures and humidities out of control, etc So yes, there are plenty of reasons he couldn't have been 'stockpiling honey'.

originally posted by: andy06shake
..., why cling on to something that's impossible cooperton? ...

Good question. What is the psychology behind that ?! It is proven beyond any doubt that this story is completely false. And it is a story that insults God making him out to be a cruel idiot. So why cling to it?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Programming and control.

The guy obviously takes his Bible seriously and literally as the word of God.

Once people choose to believe in a thing, and do so for the majority of their lives, a lot will choose to entertain the beautiful lies rather than accept the cold hard logical truth of reality.

Facts and figures are beside the point.

It's a red pill blue pill sort of scenario i suppose.

I don't think the fellow is predominantly stupid nether which kind of makes it all the more sad i suppose.

Props all the same 63 pages deep, and not really a chink in his armor that he's willing to acknowledge or accept.

Have to admire the conviction if nothing else.

a reply to: cooperton

The return would likely have been a reverse of whatever caused it to go to the surface.

Oh, yuou mean some magic occurance thats never happened again or before, even thou' it happened twice 40 days apart.

a reply to: andy06shake

You must see the problems associated with this tale, why cling on to something that's impossible...

It's faith, but...

Genesis is still badly written. You can kind of tell the thought processes. "How do we transition to a single creator, incorporate common legends, and answer questions about the world?"

I mean the ridiculous geneology, putting Noah in Sumeria, but not acknowledging Sumer. FFS, The ONLY reference to The Akkadians is through "Accad", a city they rewrite as being founded by Noah's Great-Grandson, Nimrod. They made him found Babylonian cities for God's sake.

Clearly it's not the best book with the ancient cultures before them.

Until... The Neobabylonians and exile. Then they start doing better with history.

Only so much the flesh and blood humans, interpreting whatever spirit they felt, could do to back-extrapolate a history learned about during captivity in Babylon.

It's a path from Sumer - Akkad - Babylon that is conveniently glossed over.. or forgotten.

I also want to draw people to this:

en.m.wikipedia.org...



Apparently this tablet, written 1,700 years before Genesis, has kings that lived many millenia. Like Alulim, who lived 8 sars, or 28,800 years.

More towards Moses it's still flawed, though less flawed. Egypt had Canaanites in captivity, but not in today's Egypt. And they were still called Canaanites then. There's enough Egyptian artifacts to show they ruled "Canaan" until about 1300-1400 BCE, when the New Kingdom withdrew back across the Sinai.

History, and archaeological evidence says, after Egypt withdrew several cultures rose, including Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Philistines. Some of them went monotheistic, the others kept the pantheon. SOME firepits started lacking pig bones around 1220 BCE.

To put it bluntly: Hebrews had an Exodus, Phoenicia rose from the ashes.

The story in Exodus could very well be an allegory for the 200 years it took Hebrews to diverge from Canaanites (develop their myth) after Egyptian captivity?

Clearly there's some ancient discrepancies across the board.

a reply to: purplemer

No thats what im trying to say.. the summerian has the same version of noah.

Careful Cooperton will tell you off for putting a double M in Sumerian!! lol

The Jews stole the Myth from other cultures. Like Babylonian and Sumerian which came before the Noah Myth. The Myth was created to make the people using it "Gods Special Children" as he had saved them alone amongst all others, raising them above all other cultures.

Basic Termite Information

There are 2,972 species of termites. NO ... taking just one reproducing pair of termites would NOT suddenly turn into 2972 different species after getting off the boat. Noah would have had to have had termites from each of the 2,972 species.

How did the different termite species get from Africa, Europe and South America to the Middle East? MOST ARE BLIND.

LOTS of animals eat termites. Noah would have had to have had A TON of termites on board. Some animals are known to eat thousands of termites a day. Some animals that eat termites - snakes, lizards, frogs, bats, mongooses, numbats, Echidnas, anteaters, aardvarks, skunks, MORE Click Here

Termites are consumed by a wide variety of predators. One termite species alone, Hodotermes mossambicus, was reported (1990) in the stomach contents of 65 birds and 19 mammals.[127] Arthropods such as ants,[128][129] centipedes, cockroaches, crickets, dragonflies, scorpions and spiders,[130] reptiles such as lizards,[131] and amphibians such as frogs[132] and toads consume termites, with two spiders in the family Ammoxenidae being specialist termite predators.[133][134][135] Other predators include aardvarks, aardwolves, anteaters, bats, bears, bilbies, many birds, echidnas, foxes, galagos, numbats, mice and pangolins.[133][136][137][138] The aardwolf is an insectivorous mammal that primarily feeds on termites; it locates its food by sound and also by detecting the scent secreted by the soldiers; a single aardwolf is capable of consuming thousands of termites in a single night by using its long, sticky tongue.[139][140] Sloth bears break open mounds to consume the nestmates, while chimpanzees have developed tools to "fish" termites from their nest. Wear pattern analysis of bone tools used by the early hominin Paranthropus robustus suggests that they used these tools to dig into termite mounds.

How Much Can Termites Eat in a Year

Formosan subterranean termite colonies, that occur in the southern U.S., are much larger and much more destructive. A medium-sized colony of 3 million Formosan termites could eat one foot of that 2X4 board in only two days. It’s almost impossible to give a definitive answer to the question, “How much do termites eat?”

... and Noah would have had to have had a lot more than just 3 million termites on board to feed the animals for a year. They obviously could have done some serious damage to the boat. AND HOW DID HE CATCH ALL THOSE TERMITES? He was supposedly spending all his time building a boat that took decades upon decades to finish .. right???

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Yeah .. you keep waiting. You haven't adequately answered ANY of the questions I put forward for 63 pages.

WhAt WoULd thE TeRMiTes EaT?

easy question that requires simple math to realize the small volume of wood it takes to support a colony. Not only that, they eat plenty of other foods besides wood:

Leaves and twigs: Some termite species, like leafcutter ants, specialize in harvesting and consuming fresh leaves and twigs. Their powerful jaws and cooperative habits make them efficient green eaters.

Grasses and fungi: Grassland termites readily snack on various grasses and even cultivate specific fungi within their nests for a sustainable food source.

Fruits and seeds: Certain tropical termite species might occasionally supplement their diet with sweet fruits or nutritious seeds, adding variety to their palate.

Animal droppings: Some termite species, like dung beetles, embrace the role of nature's garbage collectors, readily consuming animal droppings. This helps break down waste and return valuable nutrients to the soil.

Mold and bacteria: Certain termites cultivate specific molds and bacteria within their gut, aiding in digesting cellulose and extracting essential nutrients.

I'm not going to take the time to educate you in math and termites until after you adequately answer all the questions I put forward first.

cop-out because you know my math is actually correct

ONLY when correctly stored ... which couldn't have happened on the ark with no way to seal it and uneven temperatures and humidities out of control, etc So yes, there are plenty of reasons he couldn't have been 'stockpiling honey'.

If you can seal a boat with pitch you can seal a honey container. You're just not thinking when you post these questions, you're trying to machine gun fire questions and there's plenty of answers for all of them.

Good grief, will this insanity never end?

originally posted by: cooperton
cop-out because you know my math is actually correct

I posted the information on termites. Your math is wrong. There would have to be a hell of a lot more than 60,000 termites. The termites wouldn't have to eat the whole boat in order to cause serious damage to it. Your math fails. AND HOW DID NOAH COLLECT TENS OF MILLIONS OF TERMITES WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN NEEDED FOR A FOOD SUPPLY???

If you can seal a boat with pitch you can seal a honey container.

The boat couldn't contain enough honey containers to feed all the animals that usually eat termites. There wasn't enough pitch in the area for the boat let alone more pitch for the containers. And having just a diet of honey would have made the animals sick. They HAD to have the termites. It's their staple in the diet.

You're just not thinking when you post these questions, you're trying to machine gun fire questions and there's plenty of answers for all of them.

Just the opposite. I AM THINKING ... you are not. There are not ANY answers for the questions I've asked. If there were, you would have answered them back on page one instead of us sitting here on page 63 still waiting for a credible answer.

originally posted by: cooperton
Not only that, they eat plenty of other foods besides wood:

And NOAH would have had to gather enough of that for all the termites to live on for a whole year.
And where would he have stored it? And how would he have gathered it?
And how would he have contained the termites so they didn't get loose on the ship?
It would have taken TiME ... tons of TIME ... which he had NONE because he was suppoesdly
busy building a boat that he knew nothing of how to build and that supposedly took DECADES.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Good grief, will this insanity never end?

Abject stupidity and willful ignorance.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Good grief, will this insanity never end?

I'll stop the thread if you can show me a mechanism for life coming from non-life without intelligent input.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I posted the information on termites. Your math is wrong. There would have to be a hell of a lot more than 60,000 termites. The termites wouldn't have to eat the whole boat in order to cause serious damage to it. Your math fails. AND HOW DID NOAH COLLECT TENS OF MILLIONS OF TERMITES WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN NEEDED FOR A FOOD SUPPLY???

All of your objections to the animals diet seems to be assuming they have to have their favorite food or else they die. That's simply not true, animals can have a versatile diet. Your caps lock isn't going to change that

The boat couldn't contain enough honey containers to feed all the animals that usually eat termites.

How many animals strictly eat termites? We will go from there

originally posted by: Kurokage

Careful Cooperton will tell you off for putting a double M in Sumerian!! lol

Well yeah because it shows they are likely to know very little about them if they can't even spell their name lol

The Jews stole the Myth from other cultures. Like Babylonian and Sumerian which came before the Noah Myth. The Myth was created to make the people using it "Gods Special Children" as he had saved them alone amongst all others, raising them above all other cultures.

Doesn't explain how people in the Americas knew about it though.

AGAIN -

How did the Koalas and Kangaroos get from Australia to the Middle East?
How did Noah get a years worth of Euchalyptus and keep it fresh to feed the Koalas?

Eucalyptus Facts