Plus-size lady who petitioned for free-extra plane seats now calls on hotels to enlarge hallways

a reply to: quintessentone

You can't assume she has "other illness and disabilities" if nothing is listed in the op.

Now if you would care to add a source that lists all of her illness and "disablitites" that would be a good start for you

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: quintessentone

You cannot simply move walls for one. Second, if you make one from larger where is that space taken from. Do I create 2 smaller rooms or leave one ok and make another smaller. Either way I will get complaints and/or as a business I lose money.

Nothing lame here except having to change the world because some people are obese.....

Doorways can be made wider and taller, shower stalls can replace bathtubs, handrails are easily installed, plumbing hardware will need replacing at some point so replace it with higher weight bearing models. The renos can be done over time, not all at once. There are design strategies that can free up more space in the room, so maybe two rooms could be made out of one room, with built in recessed wall cabinetry, murphy bed/table combos which accommodate heavy weights. Wall mounted folding chairs ... you get my drift.

a reply to: quintessentone

That is all nice and the obese should all pay for that. They want bigger rooms? That will be 1299,99€ per night, thank you.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: quintessentone

That is all nice and the obese should all pay for that. They want bigger rooms? That will be 1299,99€ per night, thank you.

The rooms don't have to be bigger just the maximizing of space design-wise and a few other installations for comfort and a nice stay. Not much to ask for IMO.

I’m going to take it further and dig down to the root of this problem.

Morbid obesity is not something that is acceptable (without medical conditions causing it).

Why you say?!

Because that person will die young from it GUARANTEED. Younger than a lifelong alcoholic in most cases. It’s like killing yourself slowly.

This woman personifies what’s wrong with our world. A Morbidly obese self entitled narcissist.

Obesity itself has sky rocketed just in the last several decades. Check out the link. You might learn something.

The researchers found that over the past 33 years, worldwide overweight and obesity rates among adults have increased by 27.5%, while such rates among children and adolescents have increased by 47.1%. Collectively, the number of overweight and people with obesity worldwide has increased from 857 million in 1980 to 2.1 billion in 2013. Of these, 671 million have obesity.

www.medicalnewstoday.com...

Stop encouraging the cow.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

You can't assume she has "other illness and disabilities" if nothing is listed in the op.

Now if you would care to add a source that lists all of her illness and "disablitites" that would be a good start for you

I posted a link previously where it she stated that she had disabilities (plural). So she must be accommodated as a disabled person and as she is also extremely obese, for whatever reason which none of us know why she is, that must be accommodated too.

a reply to: quintessentone

And who is going to pay for all that? You, as their self proclaimed ambassador?

No, I bet you are now thinking about how to justify all the costs and how the rest of the people are going to pay that. I have no clinch with obese people, they can do with their life what they want, but also pay the price for it, both health wise and financially.

Eat food for two or three persons, pay for that. Need the same space as 2-3 persons, pay for that. Have the pilot break out in sweat when she get's up in the plane and trim the control surfaces, pay for that.

Why should I pay for all this?

a reply to: quintessentone

Anyone can claim they have disabilities, doesn't mean they have them.

Until she proves what she has, she has none.

Obesity is still not a disability, no matter how many times you try to say it is. Get with the program.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Also a mystery illness and other disabilities not mentioned by the OP nor the woman. Could be genetic, could be auto-immune ?.

Hypertension is not a disability
A 'mystery illness' is not a disability.
'Other disabilities not mentioned' is not a disability.
"could be ....' is not a disability.
That's just you speculating and adding on.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: quintessentone

And who is going to pay for all that? You, as their self proclaimed ambassador?

No, I bet you are now thinking about how to justify all the costs and how the rest of the people are going to pay that. I have no clinch with obese people, they can do with their life what they want, but also pay the price for it, both health wise and financially.

Eat food for two or three persons, pay for that. Need the same space as 2-3 persons, pay for that. Have the pilot break out in sweat when she get's up in the plane and trim the control surfaces, pay for that.

Why should I pay for all this?

Who pays for your room's upgrading? Every past guest does, so the same would apply here when upgrading an already accessible disabled room's toilet etc. These upgrades need to be done anyway at some point in time and it's all factored in the cost of all the rooms and those expensive drinks at the hotel bar. You did notice that larger rooms or rooms with a view or other special amenities is always higher priced. I'm not sure if a disabled accessible room can be considered as a special amenity, it should be a necessity type of room.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Anyone can claim they have disabilities, doesn't mean they have them.

Until she proves what she has, she has none.

Obesity is still not a disability, no matter how many times you try to say it is. Get with the program.

You choose not to believe her because you'd rather fat shame her, typical.

a reply to: FlyersFan

👍🏿 She has a disorder not a disability:

Binge-eating disorder is a serious eating disorder in which you frequently consume unusually large amounts of food and feel unable to stop eating.

www.mayoclinic.org...

Coupled with extreme narcissism.

a reply to: quintessentone

I choose not to believe someone who is demanding others cater to their every need.

She has done nothing to give us reason to believe her.

Fact and observation is not fat shaming, we've been over this already. But its typical for you to ignore things that are beyond your knowledge.

a reply to: quintessentone
She wants existing buildings to be changed.

I bought a building and had it modified. Have you any idea what that cost? And it was not even up to hotel standards, everything is on-wall installation, no heating, no nice walls, floors, ceilings.

You have no clue what that all costs? Do you know that hotel rooms have to be sound proof? It's not like you just hammer down a wall and then put some drywall up.

I worked as cleaner when I was not in the position to buy a building and you know what they do? They set up microphones and send down artificial # down the toilet in every room too see if that is audible.

Yes they really do that and the star rating also depends on it. I can not repeat often enough, you have no idea about the rat tail of stuff that follows such a renovation. And again, mine was just a cold building, did not even had to look nice.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

I choose not to believe someone who is demanding others cater to their every need.

She has done nothing to give us reason to believe her.

Fact and observation is not fat shaming, we've been over this already. But its typical for you to ignore things that are beyond your knowledge.

Disability with mobility issues:

Chaney also organizes body positive vacations for larger-bodied travelers and those with mobility issues. Chaney herself travels with oxygen and frequently uses a wheelchair, so accessibility is paramount. She’s planning — through TrovaTrip, a company that manages specialized group travel packages — an all-inclusive trip to the Dominican Republic from Dec. 5-9.

www.oregonlive.com...

All some of you here want to do it attack any young influencer that goes against your bias narrative.

Put the disability and mobility issues first then take into consideration the weight issue, you still have a disabled person who needs accommodation for a quality life and in this case a quality travel experience.

a reply to: quintessentone

If she lost weight and got her health under control, oxygen and a wheelchair might not be necessary.

But then again it says frequently, not all the time, so still not a disability.

We are all just tired of enablers like you letting people like this entitled lazy pos force their way of life on all of us that don't need that. There is no bias narrative here expect that you want to pass on hundreds of thousands in "accommodations" for fat people onto those of us who don't need it because this lady got you in your feelz. Sounds like someone is projecting personal issues into a thread about a nobody that just wants everyone to cater to them.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Muldar
At what point do they request additional meals to satisfy their excessive appetite?

Not intended to be inflammatory, but at some point there is a line between actual oversight and absurdity.

From the GOVERNMENT's (Fed/State/Local) point of view: The GOOD NEWS is morbidly obese people don't live long enough to collect Social Security and Medicare for very long, if ever. Nursing Homes? Nope!

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

If she lost weight and got her health under control, oxygen and a wheelchair might not be necessary.

But then again it says frequently, not all the time, so still not a disability.

Sometimes the disability makes people obese.

a reply to: quintessentone

So your solution is to take something that makes money away from the hotel. Then the cost to update the rooms with material costs thru the roof right now.

A socialist was of thinking.

a reply to: carewemust

What disability makes people obese?

Pulmonary hypertension does not lead to obesity, although obesity can, sometimes, lead to Pulmonary hypertension.