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Putin orders Russian army to observe 36-hour ceasefire.

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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Well I'm at a loss mate because this whole debacle makes me really sad.

The NWO Warhawks planned all of this and they even boast about it(See Russel Brand).

"A hundred thousand deaths is a bargain for the collapse of a sovereign nation..."

Edit: My bad, it was Jimmy Dore.


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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


Ummm...sorry...you seem to have me mistaken for someone else...I never once preached to anyone here about patriotism...

I did preach a number of times about what it really means to be a Libertarian...and on the constitution...but never about patriotism...

I have cynically mentioned my time served...cynically...

I have also stated many times here that I totally detested the things that..."My Guy"...did as per using military force as an adjunct of international brinkmanship...

I thought you were more astute than this...I defended the things that President Trump got right...and slammed him for the things he did wrong...

I can't help it if your intellect was co-opted by...mean tweets and feelz...


Frankly...Sir...I have no stomach for the Government of the UK...nor it's policies...just as I have no stomach for any western government especially our own...

Face it...the sun is setting on the western empire...and all of these idiots running the show have both feet firmly planted on the gas pedal...

Apparently you enjoy the direction we're headed...I don't...





YouSir



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: YouSir

Russia's only aircraft carrier catches fire again.

Dry dock sinks with Russian aircraft carrier.

Admiral Kuznetsov catches fire 2019

What a pile of scrap. They should decommission the poor thing and put it out of the Russian navy's misery.



Ummm...Shall we play a game..?

US carrier decommissioned

Seems to be a thing...







YouSir



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

Just to update you:

www.royalnavy.mod.uk...



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

In the case of Bonhomme Richard though there’s no reason to repair her. There are multiple other of the same class, and three of the America class now operational. Unlike the Kuznetsov, which is the only carrier they have, or the Prince of Wales, which is one of two.



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

That’s a fair criticism. I just did what I often disdain, I used generalizations and labels.

Alas, it’s one of the down sides of short hand exchanges.

I’ll reword it without such. Many of the groups who often spoke in a matter of fact that all their political opponents hate America are now currently sympathizing with Russia. And I find that confusing.

If we go back in time and never sign the Budapest Memorandum, I’d see more of a case if this isn’t any of our business. And to be fair, I actually don’t like the extent that we’re helping them because it does make us an obvious belligerent… but I understand why we are.

To answer your last question, no I don’t like the direction our country and the broader west is going. Sadly, it’s one of the symptoms of democratic systems, especially with large swaths of populace who aren’t actually educated on the systems or keep up with the current events.

But gun to my head, do I want a more western umbrella over my head or an eastern one and it’s a no brainer.

At best, rooting for Russia would be the enemy of my enemy, and sadly it would imply the enemy is within. Ask anyone who agrees with that logic who that is and you get a different answer. WEF, NWO, elites, the left. There are degrees to truth in those statements, but there hasn’t been (imo) a well organized effort to counter it in the market place of ideas. Just hyperbole and using their actions to justify the actions of the supposed counter groups.



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Its tragic Wide-Eyes, there is no two ways about it.

End of the day the real winners in this entire palaver and s@#t show will be the arms manufacturers, military-industrial complex, and energy companies who are experiencing record profits.

Still canny just let Putin walk all over Ukraine and then probably a significant proportion of the rest of Europe all the same.

I'm at a table right now so I canny really listen to the podcast, the Mrs will twat me one. LoL

Give it a go later.

Edit: Russel Brand gives me a headache buddy. He talks about a lot of stuff that he obviously does not know enough about, flings in some big words for his target audience, and mixes in a healthy dose of new-age nonsense for good measure.

Mad sha@#er back in the day as well.

Don't rate him so much these days, but each to there own.
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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake
It's a "Russian think tank based in Moscow"?

And yet, the four most prevalent journalists who write for this online news journal are:
an Englishman and former British diplomat to the Middle East
an Irish journalist
a Canadian journalist
and a South American geopolitical analyst....Wow, the cognitive dissonance must be strong here -

You very clearly did not even look at any of the titles of the articles, much less do any actual reading there...

If you had done so, you'd have seen that the Strategic Culture 'online news journal' also prints various articles (none of them "laced with hate-filled rhetoric"!!) from other alternate news sources such as:

Consortium News

The Cradle

Antiwar.com

The Grayzone

Scheer Post Among quite a few others I could list...

They can't all be "Russian propaganda", now can they?


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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

They might all be complete bollox, though?



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


Ummm...you're still not seeing the whole picture...Whether that's due to ideology trumping logic...I have no idea...

Let me explain...The entirety of the world...beyond the west...the vast majority of Earths population...view the west and especially the US as war mongers...whose foreign policy is dictated at the point of a sword...

The west imposes it's preferred view...it's..."rule of law"...on countless other countries...sponsors and executes color revolutions...instigates war...overthrows and decimates sovereign nations...and decapitates their leadership...

This is what you prefer...you prefer Libya...Iraq...Afghanistan...Serbia...Yemen...Somalia...Venezuela...and now...Russia...

You prefer the forced grind of western ideology as it marches across the face of the world...

270,000 dead Civilians in Iraq...70,000 dead civilians in Afghanistan...15,000 dead civilians from Ukrainian shelling in Ukraine...

This is what you prefer...

The rest of the world is tired...sick to death of the US and it's 208 conflicts since WWII...This is...NOT...what the constitution and the Founders envisioned...We have not kept our republic...we have shat upon the very ideals that the founders fought and shed blood for...

Then the warmongers turn as they planned to do to Russia...instigated the Ukrainian crisis and pushed Russia into conflict...Yet Russia is the boogie man...

Tell me...how many wars has Russia instigated...?

How many Wars has China instigated...?

You go ahead...swallow the hyperbole and rhetoric...feast on the propaganda...wave that flag and shout ooh rah...

I would take a thousand Vladimir Putin's...over every leader the west has to offer...

100 Billion for Ukraine...

0...for this failed disunity we call the United States of America...

Look those people in the eye that are at the end of their rope because everything cost beyond double what it normally would...
Tell them...S-okay...Critical Stinker prefers things this way...and they should just STHDASTFU...cause weeze on the side of Truth...Justice...and the American way...

Bad form dude...truly bad form...







YouSir
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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: YouSir

"I would take a thousand Alexander Putin's...over every leader the west has to offer..."

Who he?



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: lostgirl

They might all be complete bollox, though?



Ummm...says the grand swallower of every propaganda piece ever inked by the MSM and...sarc...intelligence...

The Ghost of Kiev and the Snake Island thirteen salute you...

Me...I just shake my head and chuckle at those who sup from their governments trough...



YouSir



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

How would you know unless you clicked on the links and at least scanned over the titles of the articles?!?

You might be very pleasantly surprised at the quality of journalism....

....I doubt that former NPR reporter Chris Hedges writes articles that are "complete bollox", especially since he specifically left NPR because he no longer wished to perpetrate mainstream news lies.
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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: YouSir

"Let me explain...The entirety of the world...beyond the west...the vast majority of Earths population...view the west and especially the US as war mongers...whose foreign policy is dictated at the point of a sword..."

Which non Western Countries are supporting Russia in their war?

As far as I can tell, it's probably Iran and Bolivia.

China seems a bit lukewarm.
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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

One link didn't work, the next wanted me to subscribe, one was rabid, then I kind of lost interest.



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: YouSir




.how many wars has Russia instigated.


Dozens if you actually take time to research.



70,000 dead civilians in Afghanistan.


Unlike the 2 million civilians killed by Russia's invasion of Afghanistan.

As for the rest of your post..............yawn.


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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:31 PM
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posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Not one of those news sites 'requires' a subscription and all of the links work now!!!

Are you going to continue being a troll or would you like to 'deny some ignorance' today?!?



posted on Jan, 7 2023 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

I said "wanted", not "requires".

I already denied some ignorance.
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