Another global wave of lockdowns coming early 2023?

a reply to: McGinty


With all that's coming out of China just now it is almost a certainty , cases going through the roof they open up international travel ?? wtf . we should be banning travel to and from China .

But like during the lockdown in the UK when you were getting stopped going to the shops 100.000 people a week were flying INTO the uk

a reply to: McGinty

Or, there's another intentional effort again !! ☠️

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: putnam6

gain Japan is still getting boosted at an extremely high rate and they are getting loads of cases and even their death rate is creeping up

Japan has an aging population, a high rate of multi-generational households, extremely confined living conditions, and a high rate of public transport usage.

Think of Japan as being like a low rent Hispanic neighborhood in NYC is right on top of a busy metro station.

Japan has an extremely fragile relationship with communicable diseases at the best of times. So covid was never going to be a walk in the park.

Japan's cases, severity, and deaths have been extremely low till the recent upswing, they have had an old population this whole time. Not saying age isn't a factor but it isn'y the only one and it isn't likely to be the most important one either, At least statistically it doesn't seem to be.

Japan has breezed through COVID till February 2022, cases, hospitalizations and deaths were low till recently



FWIW the top 20 countries in recent number of cases all but 2 have high vaccination rates.



Moreso of the top 28 countries with the most recent cases only 8 are countries also in the top 28 for the highest median age.

Furthermore, the oldest and 61% vaxxed Monaco is showing a 61% DECLINE in cases

www.worldatlas.com...

a reply to: stonerwilliam

a reply to: xuenchen

Same reply to both you chaps… Yes, it’s most definitely intentional imho.

Japan and India are insisting on a negative covid test before entering their countries. Are the Indians and Japanese simply smarter than our decision makers?

Nah, our decision makers refusing to make this decision means they don’t want to. That means that they’re fine about letting covid-R20 into their countries

The only question is why? For me the answer to that is always £$€…

The squeeze on social control is no doubt also a mighty attractive prospect for those in a position to apply the pressure.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: AaarghZombies

All those business loses you outlined are severe and hugely detrimental to society. But are they detrimental to the pharma manufacturing and selling the vaccines? Are they detrimental to the politicians and officials getting kick back bribes into offshore accounts?

To be blunt, yes.

One of the reasons why vaccines usually take so long to produce is that there is very little profit in them. They're expensive to research, expensive to manufacture, and expensive to have certified. Not least of all because every market has slightly different rules and regulations.

Did you watch the second video in my OP?

The U.K. government has just made a deal with moderna make many millions of doses every year for the next 10 years. The contracts are very generous. That’s a great deal of guaranteed profit. Other countries have done the same (which he outlines in a more recent video). Manufacturing that many for that long scales up the business, which in turn will maximise the profits.

Yes, the UK government has reached a deal to produce Price Capped vax with low profit margins. Moderna is doing this because it figures that it's better that it makes the money than its competitors, not because this is money tree.

I'm not saying that big pharma isn't making money form the vax, I'm saying that if covid hadn't happened big pharma would have made significantly more money selling things like cosmetics.

How many packs of lipstick or hair coloring weren't brought over lockdown because people weren't socializing?

How many bottles of Viagra and boxes of condoms weren't sold because people weren't hooking up?

Locking down cost big pharma billions in lost sales, and the vax simply won't compensate for it. Especially as most big pharma companies don't make it.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: AaarghZombies

All those business loses you outlined are severe and hugely detrimental to society. But are they detrimental to the pharma manufacturing and selling the vaccines? Are they detrimental to the politicians and officials getting kick back bribes into offshore accounts?

To be blunt, yes.

One of the reasons why vaccines usually take so long to produce is that there is very little profit in them. They're expensive to research, expensive to manufacture, and expensive to have certified. Not least of all because every market has slightly different rules and regulations.

Did you watch the second video in my OP?

The U.K. government has just made a deal with moderna make many millions of doses every year for the next 10 years. The contracts are very generous. That’s a great deal of guaranteed profit. Other countries have done the same (which he outlines in a more recent video). Manufacturing that many for that long scales up the business, which in turn will maximise the profits.

Yes, the UK government has reached a deal to produce Price Capped vax with low profit margins. Moderna is doing this because it figures that it's better that it makes the money than its competitors, not because this is money tree.

I'm not saying that big pharma isn't making money form the vax, I'm saying that if covid hadn't happened big pharma would have made significantly more money selling things like cosmetics.

How many packs of lipstick or hair coloring weren't brought over lockdown because people weren't socializing?

How many bottles of Viagra and boxes of condoms weren't sold because people weren't hooking up?

Locking down cost big pharma billions in lost sales, and the vax simply won't compensate for it. Especially as most big pharma companies don't make it.

a reply to: putnam6

age isn't a factor but it isn't the only one and it isn't likely to be the most important one either, At least statistically it doesn't seem to be.

In the US, the biggest risk factors other than age are obesity, hyper tension, diabetes, and heart disease.

This isn't really my field, but I do know that Japan has significant problems with hypertension, as well as notable issues with heart disease. There are complex reasons why, but the TLDR version is high stress levels, smoking, and high sodium intake through high sodium soy sauce being in almost everything.

Link

a reply to: McGinty


News we are not hearing is the CEO of both Pfizer and Modena both vets have quit their jobs ,sold up and gone to countries with no extradition treaties with both saying they were tricked .

Not a squeak on MSN

a reply to: stonerwilliam

Holy ****

Smoking gun much

It’s amazing how these things keep stacking up, yet some continue to sing the same ‘nothing to see here’ song, as though anyone is still fooled (at least anyone on here).

Agatha Christie would’ve binned this who dunnit as way too obvious (though Rian Johnson would’ve snapped that up judging by the amateurish transparency of Glass Onion’s ‘mystery)

That’s ridiculous. The immunity has nothing to do with vaccination or china wouldn’t be having the problem it currently has.

The immunity came from people getting sick, even those who are vaxxed and their own bodies produced what big pharma couldn’t. Real natural antibodies that prevent serious illness when the individual next encounters the virus or one similar.

The lock downs are the problem. Even in the west we locked down big mistake. The places that faired the best and continue to fair the best are all the places who did nothing. The less you do in relation to Covid the less problems Covid creates. The more measure taken in completely vain attempts to save lives the more lives ended up destroyed.

Vaccines are a wonderful technology just like cars. Except people are able to distinguish that some cars are dangerous, poorly designed, over priced and generally a rip off when compared to other cars. Their reasoning for what ever reason cannot seem to extend to medical field. I guess they believe everything sold in medicine is for their benefit.

I wouldn’t trust salesmen in medicine anymore then i would trust a used car salesman. Neither has the motive of getting me absolute best safest product(that responsibly is mine alone), they don’t care about that at all. they only want me to buy what ever it is that’s being sold.

Fear is the mind killer.


a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: DaMouse
a reply to: McGinty

I haven’t bothered to read your OP or anyone else’s comment’s. I’ve come here to say what people have said on many platforms across the world…lockdowns don’t work against a virus.

And I live in one of the most lockdown countries in the world. People where I live, won’t do it again.

So I will tell you now, lockdowns will not be happening in 2023.

If they do, I will not comply.

I agree and think this is the origin of the chinese decision to open up... people were done with it and angry. Covid is still covid, nothingburger for most people. It was mostly mild/asymptomatic in it's original form and has morphed even milder. People are done being fooled.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: McGinty
Yes, but it's dwarfed by the losses that businesses and economies are making due to the disruption caused by covid.

None of those losses are due to covid, they are all due to the ridiculous, demonstrably insane response to covid - ie, the lockdowns and ridiculously useless vaxx/mask mandates.

ALL of them (the losses).

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: McGinty

There’s massive amounts of cash and future profit tied up in covid, with investments made that expect/need covid to stick around for the next decade.

Yes, but it's dwarfed by the losses that businesses and economies are making due to the disruption caused by covid.

From a business perspective, covid is a disaster. From a government perspective, the loss in revenue through taxation due to covid is a disaster.

However much you think that you can make selling vaxxes and PPE, I can make substantially more selling access to sports and entertainment venues, and all of the things that go with it.

Something as simple as reducing the number of visitors to a large theme park can have a substantial knock-on effect to a dozen industries. From the takings at the gate to companies that supply the food and cleaning staff.

Even big pharma is losing out. Not all pharma companies make vaxxes or things that are in demand due to covid, many depend on sales of things like cosmetics. When everyone is locked down or wearing masks sales of these things drop.

The disruption is caused by the idiotic governments and the interests that sponsor them by imposing the catastrophic lockdowns around the world.

We don't care if big Pharma will loose out. Most hope their businesses will be dismantled.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: McGinty


News we are not hearing is the CEO of both Pfizer and Modena both vets have quit their jobs ,sold up and gone to countries with no extradition treaties with both saying they were tricked

.

Not a squeak on MSN

Linky please? Would be very interested to learn if this is true...

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Pharmaceuticals are medicines. Make-up and hair color are not classified as medicines.

I am not saying that some large pharmaceutical companies don't have their hands in the cosmetic market. They are a huge business and some have their hands in a huge variety of markets, including food, that is why what they may have lost in the vaccine, is very likely to have made them more than tripled in sells from their other markets.

I am not accepting that they lost money on their novel vaccine, that by passed the normal requirements for testing, to get it to the test subjects at warp speed, so they could out pace the vaccine science.

I doubt seriously that they lost a penny. A billion pennies is worth 10 million dollars, and they made a hell of a lot more than a penny per person.

a reply to: Athetos

Not all immunities necessitates a person getting sick. Immunity can be acquired by exposure.

Even mild exposure over time, can create an immunity, without the person actually becoming symptomatic, or even ill.

It can work a bit like receiving prophylactic medications. Your body kills off enough of the bugs, to stop you from getting sick, even if they are already in your system.

The only way to get good immunity in the population in every country in the world is through exposure to the virus. The sooner this is understood the better it would be and the long term consequences far less in comparison to non exposure, lockdowns, restrictions, crippled vaccinations and the rest.

That's the case since the beginning of the pandemic.

I wonder what kind of variant they are dealing with in China. It seems lots of people around here are getting the Omicron and most of them just get coughing, a mid sized fever for a couple of days and tired for about three or four days. Not much actual lung issues that would cause you to need to go to the hospital at all. The coughing seems to effect the throat and maybe bronchial tubes

originally posted by: rickymouse
I wonder what kind of variant they are dealing with in China. It seems lots of people around here are getting the Omicron and most of them just get coughing, a mid sized fever for a couple of days and tired for about three or four days. Not much actual lung issues that would cause you to need to go to the hospital at all. The coughing seems to effect the throat and maybe bronchial tubes

Just as all other human coronaviruses that usually cause mild disease after they have evolved to live with us.

A classical example is OC43 that most likely cause the 1889-1890 Russian 'Flu' Pandemic. The virus now causes colds in humans.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: McGinty
Yes, but it's dwarfed by the losses that businesses and economies are making due to the disruption caused by covid.

None of those losses are due to covid, they are all due to the ridiculous, demonstrably insane response to covid - ie, the lockdowns and ridiculously useless vaxx/mask mandates.

ALL of them (the losses).

Which makes it even more ridiculous to suggest that big pharma and the government were in this together.

Vaxxing and mask wearing doesn't really factor into this. It was social distancing which forced entertainment venues to close that was the largest single factor. This impacted multiple industries, from the venues themselves to the companies that provided them with services such as catering, to their food and beverage suppliers.

It also had a significant effect on consumer purchasing. Women in particular brought far fewer cosmetics, and used far fewer toiletries. Which are big sellers, and high profit items for big pharma

Big pharma lost a small fortune on waxing product alone due to women waxing or shaving themselves less often as they switched from skirts and dresses for going out to slacks and sweatpants for wearing around the home.

You simply can't compare the profit from someone getting 2 shots per year at about 15 bucks to the loss of that same person spending 500 bucks less on makeup and grooming products.

Even the feminine hygiene market suffered due to women going from using 2-3 different specialist products for things like sports and swimming to using a single basic set of sanitary napkins for pure comfort.

These things are all staples of big pharma.