Putin is about to win a shocking victory

a reply to: Phantom423

No problem. The only problem if you call it that is how many photos or video clips do you want to see.









































That is just what I already had downloaded onto ATS.

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Other Nazi stuff
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🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini Slogan.

The "Ruling Book of the OUN, 1941" - Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, those who invented the Slava Ukraini slogan.

Let's open up section 3 of the 4th chapter and take a look, how the greeting was intended to be done.

"The organizational greeting of the [OUN] has the form of raising the outstretched right hand to the right - at a level above the top of the head. Required words of the greeting greeting: "Glory to Ukraine" - "answer -"Glory to the heroes" can also be abbreviated to - "Glory"-"Glory"."

For those who still don't get it, you are suppose to do a Hitler Salute right after those words.

This is because Slava Ukraini is a Ukrainian adaptation of Heil Hitler.

And "Glory to the Heroes" - "Sieg Heil = Glory to the Victory "

The next words of the Ukrainian national greetings are "Ukraina Ponad Use" which is literally "Deutschland über alles". Germany above all, Nazi slogan of the 3rd Reich.

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a reply to: Grimpachi

Alexei Milchakov - St. Petersberg Russia - member of "Rusich"




RNU was estimated to have 100,000 active members all over Russia. Members wear black and camouflage uniforms; the group adopted a red and white modified swastika emblem, openly expressed admiration for German national socialism and publicly celebrated the rise of the Nazis.





The most famous Russian fighting in Donbas is Alexander Barkashov, the creator and leader of “All-Russian civic patriotic movement Russian National Unity” (RNU).




Or were you just wanting a focus on Ukraine while ignoring Russian Nazis?

In 2014, when the war in Donbas started, many of RNU members joined pro-Russian forces in Ukraine. Back then the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that a telephone conversation of Barkashov and a local Donetsk activist Boitsov was intercepted. Reportedly Barkashov said to Boitsov that he could call off the referendum on independence of the territory. Barkashov said that it is not necessary to perform referendum the legit way. He said that in the end no one would care about it. All that Boitsov has to do is to write whatever he finds suitable. If he wants, he can say that 99% of people voted for joining Russia.

Peter Barkashov, the son of Akexander Barkashov, is fighting in Donbas alongside with his father.

With as much as Russia hates Nazis you would think they would clean up their own house first but apparently not.

a reply to: Xcathdra

You are on a whataboutism role tonight but I will tell you again with the hopes that it may sink in this time.

Ukraine is the only country that I know of that idolizes WW2 SS Nazis (Bandera). It is the only one that I know of that nationalizes Nazi Battalions into their official Military structure giving them legitimacy.

Every country has Nazi idiots including Israel but there is only one that I know of that embraces them.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Its not a whataboutism when its factually true. You dont like the fact you and Putin are being called out and so you try to deflect.

When putin gets his nazi problem in russia under control then he can bitch about Nazis in Ukraine. The Russian nazis are fightin for russia in Donbas by the way.

Until then you both can stfu /

a reply to: Xcathdra

Whataboutism is just slang what you are doing is using a red hearing logical fallacy.

Red Herring
Ignoratio elenchi

(also known as: beside the point, misdirection [form of], changing the subject, false emphasis, the Chewbacca defense, irrelevant conclusion, irrelevant thesis, clouding the issue, ignorance of refutation)

Description: Attempting to redirect the argument to another issue to which the person doing the redirecting can better respond. While it is similar to the avoiding the issue fallacy, the red herring is a deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument.

Red Herring
This fallacy consists in diverting attention from the real issue by focusing instead on an issue having only a surface relevance to the first.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Deflection -
In general, deflection means that you're passing something over to someone else in an attempt to draw the attention away from yourself. It is a psychological defense in which you deflect blame to others.

a reply to: Xcathdra

If you are claiming I deflected I will remind you that I just addressed what you posted which explained why Ukraine's Nazi problem is different.

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I will also remind you that my post was a response to someone else who directly asked me for evidence and you decided to post saying but but but what about the Nazis in Russia.

Take a good look at your definition of deflection. It describes what "you" did.

a reply to: Grimpachi

no you deflected with you whataboutism bull#.

a reply to: RussianTroll

All the grandiosity and intrigue of a staged WWF title bout from back in the 80s. Putin's in on it, Zellensky's in on it, we're in on it, the WEF is running the show. Find an excuse to create a food shortage. Putin will feed his people, our people will be gouged or starved and the senile imbecile that was put in by a coup will happily go along with it. And tell us we need to hand in our guns.

Wars are measured in years....

The 1st two weeks and the media was already saying who was winning , I knew something was up

a reply to: Grimpachi

Okay, fair enough. But these crazies are all over Europe. Is Putin going to "deNazify" every country in Europe?
What impact do these Nazis have on Ukrainian policy? Do they dominate the military?
I don't have the answers to these questions so that's why I'm asking.
Everyone I speak to from friends in Moscow to my own family in the south thinks it's just crazies.

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Wars are measured in years....

Good point they certainly are.

Yet the number 1 measurement of war is real estate acquisition.

It's all about growth. Just like any business. Growth between one point in time and the present and if this shows uplift then you are winning

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: Grimpachi

Okay, fair enough. But these crazies are all over Europe. Is Putin going to "deNazify" every country in Europe?
What impact do these Nazis have on Ukrainian policy? Do they dominate the military?
I don't have the answers to these questions so that's why I'm asking.
Everyone I speak to from friends in Moscow to my own family in the south thinks it's just crazies.

It is not about getting rid of every Nazi. It is getting rid of the ones in power. As for them dominating the military, I think they do. They have a special status somewhere around SF. They hold recognized military ranks but only really answer to their own. Before they were nationalized they fought battles against UA military forces for control of regions. They have been trained by US and NATO forces for years. They receive some of the best equipment and outside funding from the national military budget.

Zelensky can't order them. They take his orders as more like suggestions. He ran on a platform of reconciliation and ending the fighting with the DPR.
He ordered them to stand down fighting Donbas. They ignored him. He went there to end the fighting. They treated him like a clown. Recorded it and posted it it for everyone to see. They have threatened his life both before and after the conflict began, publicly, on the record.

How many military commanders can threaten the life of their president/leader publicly and face zero repercussions? They don't hold political positions but when they can hold a gun to the head of the people who do then who really has the power.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: RussianTroll

When?

When can we expect this victory to happen? This year? Next year? In 10 years?

What are you hoping for? Do you want a "mission accomplished" banner and celebration like Bush made? Then years and years more of war.

That was a multi-country invasion with a shock and awe campaign of a smaller country that had a dilapidated, outdated, and previously decimated military due to years of sanctions and the prior pounding they took from Kuwait.

Did you think a single country was going to perform better than the US with its pet coalition?

This drives me nuts.

The "oh Russia should've won this in a few days, weeks at most" crowd just think that because the media told them to think that.

It doesn't stand up to any rational scrutiny with even the briefest look at facts and history.

What we've been seeing is Russia fighting a war the way it always fights a war. It's messy, it's bloody, it's horrific, but it's what they've always done.

That doesn't make it right. It doesn't mean they're losing either. That's like saying if you pay a higher price for an item than you could have, you don't actually own it.

Use your heads guys.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Xcathdra

That is some serious whataboutism you have going on there.

Do you think the crappy things that happen in Russia make the crappy things in Ukraine OK?

Are you excusing the authoritarian dictatorship actions of one country because of the authoritarian dictatorship actions of another?

It is pure insanity to me how many ATS'ers are doing this.

Anyone: -point out anything negative about Ukraine-
Them: OMGGGGG WHY DO YOU SUPPORT PUUUUUUUUUUUUTIN!!!!?!?!>k!^%k!

The inability of so many people here to think anything beyond what they are told by the media is frightening.

a reply to: Grimpachi

It's crazy how some people act like this is some fringe theory of yours.

These ideas were getting coverage in mainstream Western media a few years ago.

I didn't just discover this recently, as I'm sure you didn't. I actually remember seeing and reading articles about it in the mid-late 2010s.

In the US, the "journalists" would often try to link it to Trump. Sometimes they would blame Trump for having given right wing extremists to rear their ugly heads again. Sometimes they would claim Trump was a symptom of a larger problem of rising right-wing extremism in the West, and point to examples in Ukraine, Poland, and other usually eastern European countries, but sometimes people like Farange in the UK or Le Pen in France. The message was the extreme right was on the rise.

All of a sudden not only are they pretending they never said any of that, but any mention of it is support for Putin and approval of the mass slaughter of civilians.

Zero. Thinking.

ETA: Just realized my last 3 posts were replies to the same person. I guess I could've consolidated them. Sorry for cluttering up the thread.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grimpachi

no you deflected with you whataboutism bull#.

Dude you've totally gone off the rails in this thread. You're literally arguing that the definition of whataboutism is not the definition of whataboutism. You don't get to just make up new definitions of words when the established definition hurts your argument.

Take a breath and turn down the emotions. The people arguing with you aren't even arguing in favor of Russia. You're just baselessly claiming that about anyone who says something you don't like. You're seeing ghosts.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Wars are measured in years....

Good point they certainly are.

Yet the number 1 measurement of war is real estate acquisition.

It's all about growth. Just like any business. Growth between one point in time and the present and if this shows uplift then you are winning

On that note, since the start of the war, land occupied by Russia has increased and land occupied by Ukraine has decreased.

a reply to: Grimpachi

you have no idea what you are talking about.

a reply to: face23785

You may not have noticed but some folk on here seem to post full time anti Ukraine/pro Russia threads and posts.

What is actually scary is the constant stream of posts simply repeating Russian state sponsored propaganda.