Putin is about to win a shocking victory

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

i feel old when i look at my joining day...

noobs and trolls. noobs and trolls everywhere.

a reply to: NoMoreFools

“They attacked a hugely populated city, but they didn’t have any intention of taking it”

It is called a fixing operation.

In very simple terms it preoccupies forces that otherwise could go to reinforce other areas.

Either you lie, or you admit that their goal was to kill innocents.

There is literally no other option.

False Dilemma Fallacy
Sometimes called the “either-or” fallacy, a false dilemma is a logical fallacy that presents only two options or sides when there are many options or sides. Essentially, a false dilemma presents a “black and white” kind of thinking when there are actually many shades of gray.

I see you are still making fallacious arguments. Some people never learn.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

so i am younger than you 3 years .. but i am a woman so i am always younger .. haha

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Grimpachi

Well think about propaganda war and its history.. USSR and today Putin is an excellent example what Propaganda is .. The deep understanding of Russian propaganda start with schooling youngs. Are you ok with schooling youngsters with false information of history and ideological idea of supermacy ( praise of Stalin who killed more people than Hitler ).
So are you ok that there is a nation who has gone through all this schooling ? A nation where people who has this kind of view of History and feel it is ok and good is not only staying in their home country but is living among us in western society. You should compare this to radical islam.. it is in your own doorsteps

like this?

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Grimpachi

Well think about propaganda war and its history.. USSR and today Putin is an excellent example what Propaganda is .. The deep understanding of Russian propaganda start with schooling youngs. Are you ok with schooling youngsters with false information of history and ideological idea of supermacy ( praise of Stalin who killed more people than Hitler ).
So are you ok that there is a nation who has gone through all this schooling ? A nation where people who has this kind of view of History and feel it is ok and good is not only staying in their home country but is living among us in western society. You should compare this to radical islam.. it is in your own doorsteps

I think that sucks. But what does that have to do with what I said? Do you think that we in the west are not targeted by propaganda? Do you think the propaganda we are targeted with is any less insidious?

What are we supposed to think when two nations in a conflict both engage in the same type of false information and schooling that you just described?

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Are you saying it isn´t... well i believe i have closer insight about this matter.. you are free to contact me.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: jedi_hamster

Are you saying it isn´t... well i believe i have closer insight about this matter.. you are free to contact me.

i'm saying they're turning kids into nazis in ukraine and you're talking about russian propaganda.

russia ain't innocent, sure, but what Putin said about nazis in ukraine, is sadly true. Hitler would be proud of them.

and if you don't recognize the symbolism, perhaps you should stay quiet.

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: jedi_hamster

Are you saying it isn´t... well i believe i have closer insight about this matter.. you are free to contact me.

i'm saying they're turning kids into nazis in ukraine and you're talking about russian propaganda.

russia ain't innocent, sure, but what Putin said about nazis in ukraine, is sadly true. Hitler would be proud of them.

and if you don't recognize the symbolism, perhaps you should stay quiet.

I’m not sure what you’re missing. “Turning kids into Nazis in Ukraine” is, indeed, Russian propaganda.

originally posted by: NoMoreFools

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: jedi_hamster

Are you saying it isn´t... well i believe i have closer insight about this matter.. you are free to contact me.

i'm saying they're turning kids into nazis in ukraine and you're talking about russian propaganda.

russia ain't innocent, sure, but what Putin said about nazis in ukraine, is sadly true. Hitler would be proud of them.

and if you don't recognize the symbolism, perhaps you should stay quiet.

I’m not sure what you’re missing. “Turning kids into Nazis in Ukraine” is, indeed, Russian propaganda.

propaganda. just like that AP photo with blatant symbolism that i've posted.

they're pissing on your head and you pretend it's raining.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I have never doubted that you are not . I am not that far west but i have my eyes open. US is a different picture than Russia is .. believe me. I lived in US for some time and seen what the living is there. Propaganda has not been taught in schools for multiple decades as it is in Russia and propaganda in states has different life and because of history of each countries propaganda has. US propaganda is in its teen age when in Russia it is allready is in dementia. You still have possibilities to break it up but for Russia it is a different case as it is been taught through generations .

a reply to: jedi_hamster

WOW are you really believing they are turning kids to be nazis .. for Gods sake. I am losing hope for this era

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: NoMoreFools

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: jedi_hamster

Are you saying it isn´t... well i believe i have closer insight about this matter.. you are free to contact me.

i'm saying they're turning kids into nazis in ukraine and you're talking about russian propaganda.

russia ain't innocent, sure, but what Putin said about nazis in ukraine, is sadly true. Hitler would be proud of them.

and if you don't recognize the symbolism, perhaps you should stay quiet.

I’m not sure what you’re missing. “Turning kids into Nazis in Ukraine” is, indeed, Russian propaganda.

propaganda. just like that AP photo with blatant symbolism that i've posted.

they're pissing on your head and you pretend it's raining.

A picture of kids with their fists over their heart is hardly proof of your claims.

It’s funny…claiming that “it’s for the kids” was one of goebbles favorite forms of propaganda, too.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Grimpachi

I have never doubted that you are not . I am not that far west but i have my eyes open. US is a different picture than Russia is .. believe me. I lived in US for some time and seen what the living is there. Propaganda has not been taught in schools for multiple decades as it is in Russia and propaganda in states has different life and because of history of each countries propaganda has. US propaganda is in its teen age when in Russia it is allready is in dementia. You still have possibilities to break it up but for Russia it is a different case as it is been taught through generations .

western propaganda is more subtle, despite being quite blatant.

they make you feel like you're free while feeding you BS, only the BS comes from corporate media, which is why you swallow it.

it's how they've got western population under control. people think it's their own opinion, while it's everything but - it's carefully crafted mind control operation, way more advanced than what russia is doing.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Western propaganda is in its teens but take a moment and think you are living in nazi germany and it is not germany but Russia. You understand that Russia is somewhat closed society ?

a reply to: RussianTroll

In what way would a Russian "victory" in Ukraine be shocking??

They've had every advantage since day one of their unlawful invasion of a sovereign country...every single one. They should have rolled over them within days, if not hours...I seem to recall you saying just that--or words to that effect.

Yet here you are, trying to portray Russia as some sort of underdog who will win in spite of the odds against them.

What a load of crap.

What's shocking is that you keep denying that the ol' Russian Bear ain't what she used to be--and may have bitten off more than she can handle.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Bit more advanced yea , in Russia they just put a bullet in your head or put you in a gulag if you are the political opposition.

Putin is the carefully crafted dictator.

a reply to: TheGreazel

Exactly !

Lots of experts here...Can someone tell me about this image?


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-Thanks in advance.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Hmm.. are they related to these?


Alexei Milchakov - St. Petersberg Russia - member of "Rusich"




RNU was estimated to have 100,000 active members all over Russia. Members wear black and camouflage uniforms; the group adopted a red and white modified swastika emblem, openly expressed admiration for German national socialism and publicly celebrated the rise of the Nazis.





The most famous Russian fighting in Donbas is Alexander Barkashov, the creator and leader of “All-Russian civic patriotic movement Russian National Unity” (RNU).




Or were you just wanting a focus on Ukraine while ignoring Russian Nazis?

In 2014, when the war in Donbas started, many of RNU members joined pro-Russian forces in Ukraine. Back then the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that a telephone conversation of Barkashov and a local Donetsk activist Boitsov was intercepted. Reportedly Barkashov said to Boitsov that he could call off the referendum on independence of the territory. Barkashov said that it is not necessary to perform referendum the legit way. He said that in the end no one would care about it. All that Boitsov has to do is to write whatever he finds suitable. If he wants, he can say that 99% of people voted for joining Russia.

Peter Barkashov, the son of Akexander Barkashov, is fighting in Donbas alongside with his father.

a reply to: Xcathdra

great find !