Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: dragonridr

I would say this is a major escalation as Russian Missiles hit where 5000 NATO troops were housed ready for a push into Russian territory. They apparently are not hiding it anymore.

originally posted by: anonentity
Belarus seems to think the west is trying another coup, so now are all in with Russia.

The West did try a Coloured Revolution in Belarus last year just like they did with Ukraine. It was put down, yet another is on the cards for sure and Lukoshenko will be deposed. He has no choice but to throw his lot in with Putin if hew wants to keep NATO out of Belarus.

Calls Ukraine a terrorist regime... while showing images of universities, pedestrian foot bridges and other civilian locations being bombed...

Calls Ukrainian civilian infrastructure like sewage military targets... while showing footage of the Kerch bridge being blown up...

I cannot make this # up... ruZZia is completely upside down black is white insane.

"Regardless of how they feel about us, under the influence of Ukraines media and propaganda im certain that they dont want war"...

So it doesnt matter what they feel about the war, their all being coerces to hate ruZZia and they all dont want it... as ruZZia bombs and kills them. They are just misguided they really do love ruZZia... "He really does love me you know, but I deserve this" *as ruZZia punches them* /s

a reply to: anonentity

Which NATO troops?

Why would NATO invade Russia?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: anonentity

Which NATO troops?

Why would NATO invade Russia?

NATO isn't invading anyone, but putin tells russians that they are every day.

At this point, most russians actually believe it

It makes sense for Putin send some of his conscripts to Belarus to receive training there. That way they can be useful to him even if they don't join the war directly.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: anonentity

Which NATO troops?

Why would NATO invade Russia?

That's why I had to laugh at 5000 NATO troops sitting in Ukraine. Yeah its obvious Russians will buy anything at this point. and the ones that dont are leaving the country.

a reply to: anonentity


Have any 'evidence' of those 5000 NATO troops even existing there, much less 'planning to invade russia'?


Do they have a 3 star general?

originally posted by: Cutepants
It makes sense for Putin send some of his conscripts to Belarus to receive training there. That way they can be useful to him even if they don't join the war directly.

So what your saying is Belarus could do a better job training then Russia? well i guess maybe since most of their experienced troops are dead or wounded. But i wouldnt think you want them training elsewhere seems like it just gives them the opertunity to flee.

a reply to: dragonridr

Yeah, if someone else can train them then the Russian trainers will be free to do something else. And I don't know. If they trust the Belarusian MPs to guard them it should be fine.

a reply to: Freeborn

They are called mercenaries, the only reason the war has lasted this long is that NATO is fuelling it as a stepping-off point to dissect Russia. They want it That is probably what this is all about. You don't surround Russia with missile systems for a laugh.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Freeborn

They are called mercenaries, the only reason the war has lasted this long is that NATO is fuelling it as a stepping-off point to dissect Russia. They want it That is probably what this is all about. You don't surround Russia with missile systems for a laugh.

So now they aren't NATO troops, but mercenaries?

Then why did you call them NATO troops?

Have any evidence of those 5000 'mercenaries' in Lviv?




Have any evidence that NATO wants to 'disect' russia?

Or that anyone put any missiles in Ukraine capable of attacking russia prior to russia invading Ukraine?


Or is all of that completely fictional russian propaganda again?

a reply to: anonentity

They are called mercenaries,.....

So they aren't NATO troops then.

And mercenaries are fighting on both sides.

....the only reason the war has lasted this long is that NATO is fuelling it as a stepping-off point to dissect Russia.

The only reasons the war has lasted this long is that Putin can not bear to lose face and do the right thing by calling an immediate ceasefire.
And lets not forget if he hadn't ordered the invasion in the first place we wouldn't be where we are now.
Putin ordered the invasion of a neighbouring independent country that posed no threat to Russia at all, a country he had sworn to never invade and to protect its borders.

No-one wants to see the break up of Russia....it would serve no practical purpose at all.

They want it....

Who do?

You don't surround Russia with missile systems for a laugh.

But Russia wasn't surrounded.
Ukraine had no missile systems of their own and there certainly wasn't any NATO missiles in Ukraine at the time of the invasion.

Bear in mind Ukraine had firmly been refused admittance to NATO.

a reply to: Freeborn

It doesn't matter what you call them they are from NATO countries, supplied with NATO weapons and intelligence.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Freeborn

It doesn't matter what you call them they are from NATO countries, supplied with NATO weapons and intelligence.

Is NATO a country?

So you mean they are volunteers from a lot of countries, some of which happen to belong to NATO.

So why did you call them NATO troops?

Assuming that 5000 people were there in the first place, since you still haven't even provided evidence of that.




How many 'mercenaries' by your definition do you think are in moscow?

What are the peak usage hours at gorky park?

There's a playground there that looks threatening.




russia just made public parks, kindergartens, apartments, power plants and rush hour traffic legitimate targets in moscow.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Freeborn

It doesn't matter what you call them they are from NATO countries, supplied with NATO weapons and intelligence.

Any evidence of this? See Russia relies heavily on mercenaries the rest of the world does not. Mercs have very specific skill sets usually as guards in dangerous territory. They don't use them to fight the war however that's not an effective role for them. You see this in Russia as the Wagner group is unable to coordinate with the Russian military.

There is no mercs, especially 5000 that's just silly to everyone but Russians I guess. Russians are lied to so often by Putin they have lost touch with reality. They buy the NAZI lies from the Kremlin let's not forget the nuclear weapons Ukraine was making. Then the biological labs were creating a virus to kill only Russians. And then there is the referendums where Putin actually got them to believe the Areas that cheer every time Ukrainian troops retake territory actually voted to join Russia.

a reply to: dragonridr

40 minutes in "Redacted" or thereabouts he mentions these latest developments.They seem a fairly balanced outlet.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: dragonridr

Well, to claim things without showing the viewer any proof of it, won't qualify in my book as fairly balanced. At least in one regard, he was as wrong as could be: the german embassy was indeed damaged, as in broken windows and such, but it has been deserted for quite a while already, many weeks, since alle personel moved to another location. :-)

I really cannot fathom, why Russia thinks the whole world is circling around them - while, actually, nobody gives a hoot about attacking, leave alone occupying, the country. Just: Russia go Home ... and be assured, nobody will follow you!

If you're armed by NAT0, on the side of NAT0, hitting targets selected by NAT0, you might be 0TAN.

a reply to: carport

It's about natural gas markets, at a minimum. Pretty obvious, if you follow the course of events.