Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

Russians have problems , there is no sign of victory and losses are huge .


Russia’s Military — Losing the Will to Fight

These developments compound one another. A significant number of Russian units have now lost the will to fight (as on the Kharkiv front), placing greater pressure on those with a continuing esprit de corps, and ultimately paving the way for Russian defeat.

It doesn’t matter whether Russia has lost 1,500 or 500 tanks; what matters is when Russian troops lose the will to fight. As units start to disintegrate, their casualties soar; Nazi Germany’s casualties on the Eastern front skyrocketed after the fall of 1943, when they lost the initiative and beaten units with intermittent supply and coordination straggled back towards the River Oder and Berlin. Ukraine’s current dual counteroffensive matters because it once again signals to Russian soldiers that their cause is lost, that there is no successful endgame, and that there is only pain and death in front of them.

Putin’s Fatal Flaw in the Ukraine War: Not Enough Soldiers

Russia breaches dam, causing flooding in Zelensky’s hometown and possibly flooding Ukrainian pontoon bridges they are using for the counter offensive.

www.the-sun.com...

originally posted by: Kenzo

Russians have problems , there is no sign of victory and losses are huge .


Russia’s Military — Losing the Will to Fight

These developments compound one another. A significant number of Russian units have now lost the will to fight (as on the Kharkiv front), placing greater pressure on those with a continuing esprit de corps, and ultimately paving the way for Russian defeat.

It doesn’t matter whether Russia has lost 1,500 or 500 tanks; what matters is when Russian troops lose the will to fight. As units start to disintegrate, their casualties soar; Nazi Germany’s casualties on the Eastern front skyrocketed after the fall of 1943, when they lost the initiative and beaten units with intermittent supply and coordination straggled back towards the River Oder and Berlin. Ukraine’s current dual counteroffensive matters because it once again signals to Russian soldiers that their cause is lost, that there is no successful endgame, and that there is only pain and death in front of them.

Putin’s Fatal Flaw in the Ukraine War: Not Enough Soldiers

Nice propaganda piece.

a reply to: SgtEsquire

That was yesterday. Reports this morning is that the dam is partially repaired and the water is receding.

Flooding 'receding' in Krivyi Rih after 112 homes affected – reports

Following a Russian strike with eight cruise missiles on Wednesday on civilian water infrastructure on the town of Kryvyi Rih there has been flooding.
Reuters reports that Oleksandr Vilkul, the head of the Krivyi Rih military administration, said in a post on Telegram that 112 homes were flooded but that works to repair the dam on the Inhulets river were under way, and that “flooding was receding”.
The BBC quotes Vilkul saying that water levels had “dropped considerably” and that there were no casualties.

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Anyone else wondering if China and Russia formalized some new Axis powers alliance during their meeting today?

Here is an article talking about them “teaming up”.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

I know some ATS’ers think that is super unlikely, but I’ve been wondering if China and Russia might launch a “Pearl Harbor” attack together. They are doing joint patrols in the pacific right now.

www.reuters.com...

it wasn't their "entire sub fleet" but 3 kilo class diesel electric subs that had probably spent their Kaliber cruise missiles and what with the drone attack on severadonsk(sp?) the other week or so that showed one flying over the sub pens they just pulled them back to probably get out of range of any Ukrainian drones. those subs have limited endurance and can only fire kalibers out of two of their 6 torp tubes and i think they only carry 4? (going from memory mind you) . it MAY have been the remainder of their local sub fleet as turkey closed the area to ships not based in the region

a reply to: SgtEsquire

Given that Russia is getting it's arse kicked in Ukraine I can't really see that they'd have a cat's chance in hell of taking on the US and NATO.

I can't see China being much interested in committing suicide, either.

Pearl Harbour didn't work out too well for Japan.

a reply to: SgtEsquire


It looked like China give some sort of warning .

Beijing would not tolerate any encroachments on Kazakhstan’s territory


I think the message was aimed to Russia . So that`s another angle to their partnership.

China warns against meddling in Kazakhstan ahead of Putin meeting


Kazakhstan has been Russian sphere of interest , maybe that`s about to change now ?

a reply to: Kenzo

Interesting stuff here:


BBC News - Putin-Xi talks: Russian leader reveals China's 'concern' over Ukraine
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yes, i feel like XI is silently afraid maybe the whole Ukraiane-Russia situation, if Putin goes really extra mad, XI has to explain to Chinese why he wanted such close relationship with Putin/Russia....Chinese media is allready censoring part of current talks ...

China need Russia to counter USA , and buy gas/oil , so i doubt the relationship is more than getting benefits that suit China .

a reply to: Kenzo

Xi is not exactly effusive in his support for Putin's war, for sure.

BBC News - Ukraine war: Who is winning?
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Political rhetoric for the masses.

China's practical support for Putin's invasion has been somewhat underwhelming up to now.

Acts and deeds.

Le Russe, qui il y a quelque temps avait castré un soldat ukrainien et s'était laissé filmer au passage, a été capturé par les forces armées de l'UA.

Translation:

The Russian, who some time ago castrated a Ukrainian soldier and allowed himself to be filmed in the process, was captured by the AU armed forces.

Capture photo at the link: twitter.com...

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz

Le Russe, qui il y a quelque temps avait castré un soldat ukrainien et s'était laissé filmer au passage, a été capturé par les forces armées de l'UA.

Translation:

The Russian, who some time ago castrated a Ukrainian soldier and allowed himself to be filmed in the process, was captured by the AU armed forces.

Capture photo at the link: twitter.com...

I hope he's #ting the bed in fear every night he's a PoW right up to his trial once this is all over... although it would be far easier and cheaper to simply give as good as he gave.



Seems the ruZZians in some corners are asking for ramp up in war crimes against civilians and civilian infrastructure, along with the old 'their the enemy so we have to liberate our brothers with death so they can be free from their bad lives' twisted logic... their projection of ruZZian cultural mentality onto everyone around them, while using that same projection onto others as an excuse for them to do the things they do to them, its... argh *clutchs forehead in painful confusion* I hope the white haired #ter talking at the end of that video gets strung up by his feet when it all falls apart, his words are worth worse, he's literally asking for genocide.

Also how can a people be that clueless to how the rest of the world thinks?.. and yeah thats a rhetorical question lol, I know full well why they are so clueless (although many ruZZians arent, they just cant say anything despite knowing the reality of things) but hey ruZZian state medias gonna ruZZian state media, and projecting ruZZias gonna project.

Their definitely trying to mentally prepare their people for something though while mulling over the options available to them... any option they choose still means their gonna loose, but its worrisome.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: Kenzo

Russians have problems , there is no sign of victory and losses are huge .


Russia’s Military — Losing the Will to Fight

These developments compound one another. A significant number of Russian units have now lost the will to fight (as on the Kharkiv front), placing greater pressure on those with a continuing esprit de corps, and ultimately paving the way for Russian defeat.

It doesn’t matter whether Russia has lost 1,500 or 500 tanks; what matters is when Russian troops lose the will to fight. As units start to disintegrate, their casualties soar; Nazi Germany’s casualties on the Eastern front skyrocketed after the fall of 1943, when they lost the initiative and beaten units with intermittent supply and coordination straggled back towards the River Oder and Berlin. Ukraine’s current dual counteroffensive matters because it once again signals to Russian soldiers that their cause is lost, that there is no successful endgame, and that there is only pain and death in front of them.

Putin’s Fatal Flaw in the Ukraine War: Not Enough Soldiers

Nice analysis piece.

Fixed that for ya.

Oh dear.


bulgarianmilitary.com...

They shot down their own SU 35.

Muppets.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Oh dear.


bulgarianmilitary.com...

They shot down their own SU 35.

Muppets.

At least they finally hit an actual nazi.

That Russian tactical leaving of areas in full:


BBC News - Ukraine war: Inside the recaptured city of Izyum
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: SgtEsquire

Isnt attacking dams considered a war crime now ??

The brits did it against the Ruhr dams in 1943

During Korean war US Navy attacked the sluice gates on a dam to prevent the Chinese from manipulating the war levels by releasing water down stream