Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: chinasoldier

So according to you it's an American village?

a reply to: chinasoldier

Who are the real architects of this? not a puppet regime in Kyiv. Are the Russian diplomats still in London and Washington? if they are we might be looking at a controlled narrative playing out, if not we are looking at WW111.

originally posted by: chinasoldier
For the first time Kiev regime kills Russians civilians on Russian soil.

Or more likely it was a false flag, or a stray Russian "precision" missile falling short, just like cruise missiles bound for Syria that hit Iran instead.

Whatever the cause, Russia will spin it that they are the victim in the war that they started, and which has claimed thousands of lives of civilians.

Russia, looking for excuses to justify brutality for a hundred years.

Maybe an ammo dump nearby was hit and the deaths were caused by the fire at the ammo dump?

As for someone is gonna pay. Ironic that pro Russians/Russians are mad because Russian civilians were killed while not saying a word about the Ukrainian citizens Russia has killed.

There have been reports over the last few weeks that a false flag was in the works to blame Ukraine inside Russia / Belarus.

Russia invaded Ukraine and for some dumbass Russia can't accept the fact that military targets located in Russia are going to be attacked and rightly so. Can someone explain where Russia got the "we can attack you but you cannot attack us" delusion?

Speaking of false flag -




Putin has transferred Iskander-M missile/launchers to Belarus and the missiles will be nuclear capable. Putin is also upgrading Belarus Su-25, enabling them to carry nuclear weapons.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I do not think the SU-25 can carry nuclear weapons,except tactical ones,and i do mean 1. they can barely get up in the air with 2 rocket pods and 2 defensive missiles.

Anyway Belarus is a puppet. their leadership should be legitimate targets for removal.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Any comment?

theins.ru...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Grimpachi

Any comment?

theins.ru...

Wow.. Just another example of the Russian / Chechnya leadership saying one thing in Public and doing even worse things in private to the people.

I agree with Ukraine re: Russia's seat on the UNSC. Russia needs to be ejected from the UN.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I disagree this would shut down a line of communication with anuclear power. What would be better is for the US and Russia to give up their vetos it's silly that they can override any vote.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Too busy supporting the current thing



Always remember to support the current thing, comrades.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has pledged more military aid to Ukraine after visiting the war-torn nation's capital.

The prime minister met President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv during a surprise trip on Sunday.

He earlier toured the devastated towns of Bucha and Irpin, describing what he saw as a "war crime".

The aid package, worth 100m Australian dollars ($68m; £56m), includes drones and 34 additional armoured vehicles.

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A$99.5 million in military assistance, including 14 armoured personnel carriers, 20 Bushmaster protected mobility vehicles and other military equipment supplied by Australia’s defence industry, and a contribution to NATO’s Ukraine Comprehensive Assistance Package Trust Fund. This brings Australia’s total military assistance to Ukraine to approximately A$388 million.

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Australia is remaining in line with the U.S. and the West in dispatching a trickle of military aid to Ukraine.

Key Takeaways

Russian forces seized the remaining territory between Lysychansk and Luhansk Oblast’s administrative borders on July 3.

Russian forces launched assaults northeast of Bakhmut and north of Slovyansk but did not secure new territorial gains.

Russian forces conducted extensive artillery attacks in the western part of the Southern Axis likely to disrupt Ukrainian counteroffensives.

The Kremlin continued to set conditions for potential Russian annexation of proxy republics.

Ukrainian partisans reportedly derailed a Russian armored train carrying ammunition near Melitopol on July 2.

RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, JULY 3

* - Fire at Schehlovka in Donetsk

* - Russian military launched missile strike at Schevchenkivsky district of Kharkiv. School destroyed

* - Fire at Hryhorivka/Hvardeiyka in Donetsk

* - At Pivdenny Buh and Tavriya direction Russian army attempted to regain positions in Ivanivka, Potyomkyne and Myrne, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Avdiyivka, Kurakhove directions Russian army conducting offensive near Pobeda and Maryinka. Aviation conducted airstrikes near Avdiivka and Maryinka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian forces conducting offensive actions near Vasylivka, Berestove, Spirne, Klynove and Mayorsk, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Bakhmut direction Russian army conducted missile strikes near Pokrovske, Berestove, Spirne and near Vulhehirsk power station, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Kramatorsk direction Russian army crossed Siversky Donetsk, fortyfing at the areas of Lysychansk and Bilohorivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Donetsk direction Russian forces pushing Ukrainian military to the line Siversk-Fedorivka-Bakhmut, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Sloviansk direction Russian army attempting to gain control over Bohorodychne, Mazanivka and Dolyna villages , - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Ukrainian military repelled Russian assault attempt at Prudianka in Kharkiv region, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian helicopters and artillery shelled Ukrainian positions shelled Vasylivske, Bilopillia, Bachivsk and Vovkivka of Sumy region, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Explosion of warehouse with ammunition in Snizhne

* - Video of explosions at Khimmash plant in Snizhne

* - Russian army shelled today Bilopillia in Sumy region with howitzers and mortars, also Khotin community. Drone dropped an explosive device near Velyka Pysarivka. At 8pm Russian army shelled Atynske mental hospital, at least 3 wounded

* - Drone shot down over Synelnykove district of Dnipropetrovsk region

* - Heavy shelling in Sloviansk, over 15 fires, multiple wounded and killed

* - Russian forces captured Zolotarivka village near Lysychansk, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine in the evening report

* - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukrainian army withdraw from Lysychansk

* - Turkey detained a Russian cargo ship carrying grain which Ukraine says is stolen, Ukraine's ambassador to Turkey said on Sunday. Ukraine had previously asked Turkey to detain the Russian-flagged Zhibek Zholy cargo ship — Reuters

* - Explosion reported near Dnipro city, possible air defence hit aerial target

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)
* - Stopfake - Countering Russian propaganda about Ukraine
* - MilitaryLand - Maps

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

a reply to: Xcathdra

Strategically, both sides recognise the significance of the southern and coastal areas of Ukraine. The Russians are seeking to turn Ukraine into a defacto landlocked country. But the Ukrainians are seeking to maintain access to seaports and related infrastructure, so international commerce and possibly military aid are open to those routes.

Ukrainian military planners and political leaders face the time-honoured question of the soundest method for blunting their enemy's main effort, outlined above. Most likely, the Ukrainians will pour their national/military resources into defending their country's access to the sea. However, there is an outside chance of Ukrainian counterattacks occurring in other parts of the country, intending to cause the Russians to withdraw their forces from elsewhere to meet the threat. But I think the Russians would trade away territory before weakening their main effort.

Moreover, that leads to another issue, attempts to defend "everywhere" in southeastern Ukraine will mean defending nothing. Additionally, with Russian ground forces/firepower achieving greater levels of concentration than in the initial axis's of advance, the conditions for successful counterattacks are harder to achieve.

a reply to: xpert11

I agree there will be a push in the south we know some of the new equipment is there with the strike on snake island. I think odds are good they will try to take back crimea within the next couple of months. They have everything they need to destroy the Russian fleet. And now they can reach deep behind the lines to destroy infrastructure and supplies.

My only question is how will Russia take it if they lose Crimea in this round?

Would love to see which other flags are ready in Russia's ISS stores.................... "Russian cosmonauts display flag of occupied Luhansk region on ISS" www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Would love to see which other flags are ready in Russia's ISS stores.................... "Russian cosmonauts display flag of occupied Luhansk region on ISS" www.theguardian.com...

Photoshopped.

twitter.com...

a reply to: alldaylong

Fair doos........... Well unearthed ADL PS the Guardian seems to be the only 'free' decent newspaper available on the net. It's no personal choice x