Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

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The situation in the Nikolaev-Kherson direction at 20.00 June 19, 2022 - @rybar

- The parties continue to fight on the line of contact: the RuAF attacked the positions of the AFU in the front-line villages of Posad-Pokrovskoye, Blagodatnoe and Kobzartsy.

- A group of Ukrainian SOF arrived in Posad-Pokrovskoye in order to conduct additional recon of RuAF positions in preparation for a new offensive on Kherson.

- In the village of Liman on the right bank of the Southern Bug River (Pivdennyi Buh), a rotation of personnel of the AFU was carried out.

- The RuAF launched a missile strike on the shops of one of the industrial enterprises of Nikolaev and several foreign artillery systems were destroyed.

- In the Krivoy Rog direction, the parties continue to conduct artillery duels.

- The Ukrainian army is expecting the delivery of small recon UAVs for the needs of reconnaissance units deployed on the front line.

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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Cutepants

Both UA and Ru are extremely homophobic. I just don't see them raping each other in their down time.

Sorry for taking so long. I was able to use yandex to translate the military prosecutor's report, if anyone wants the full text just ask. It's actually pretty well translated.

www.documentcloud.org...

To your appeal dated 10/28/2020, addressed to the Chief Military Prosecutor of the Russian Federation, on the issue of offenses related to non-statutory relations between military personnel and manifestations of homosexuality in the troops, we inform the following.

For example, it was reported that in the Western Military District there was an organized "club" for the provision of pimping services, with the activities of which several senior officers were associated. The "club" was forced to provide certain kinds of services for the most part to young people called up for military service, but in a couple of cases services were voluntarily offered by women with the rank of junior officers.

It can be stated that today the criminogenic situation in military units is, in principle, under control, and the average level of offenses and criminal manifestations in 0.8-1.3 times lower than in the whole country. At the same time, at the heart of most war crimes, as before, are irregular relationships and physical abuse of officers.

Vague, but I guess this could mean that only 0,5% of conscripts are prostituted, assuming there's 1 to 3 million prostitutes in Russia as a whole, meaning around 1%? But we could look up actual statistics of crimes. Of course the actual number would be higher, these are just the cases that are officially prosecuted.

According to the results of the inspections conducted by the prosecutors, about 23 thousand violations of the law were revealed, 445 illegal legal acts were canceled and amended, and restored violated the rights of almost 51 thousand citizens, damage in the amount of 336.2 million rubles was compensated.

During 2018-2019, presumably.

An effective mechanism of public control in military units (following the example of the work of Public the supervisory commissions entitled to unrestricted access to special institutions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Federal Penitentiary Service) have not been formed.

According to the results of 2019 The Main Military Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation states that the number of offenses among soldiers related to non-statutory relations increased by 24%, in particular, on the facts of assault - by 32.5%. The number of violent crimes in the troops increased by 11% last year (while the number of complaints about extortion in the troops increased by only 7 percent).

It is noticed that victims of rape are primarily young people called up for military service who are forced by various kinds of violent methods to engage in sexual relations with senior employees. This is often accompanied by prolonged harassment, beatings and threats, which in some cases can last for months. In connection with the transformations in the country's military organization, there has been a tendency to reduce violent crimes. But last year the indicators changed for the worse and we have an increase by 11% for 2019 Hazing, violence in barracks, violent homosexuality and prostitution of military personnel is a very painful and difficult issue. Recently, violence, including sexual crimes, in the army environment sometimes acquire a national coloring (it is recorded that in problematic military units, the leaders of groups are military personnel of Chechen nationality) and there is also something to work on. In all such cases, we respond promptly and harshly.

There's no need for me to speculate on how true this is, that they respond promptly and harshly. I'm content to note that indeed there is a significant problem, even if it may have been reduced since the 90's or since Soviet times.

The main disturbing trends in 2018-2019:

joint porn viewing - growth/increase by 8%

mutual masturbation and oral sex (blowjob, rimming, zd) - by 7%

pimping (commerce, including, massage services") - by 9%

homosexual sexual intercourse without violence (not commerce) - 2%

non-voluntary homosexual sexual intercourse (rape) - by 7%

open bisexuality - by 4%

open transsexualism - 2%

bestiality, sodomy (including latent) - on 11%


With respect,
Deputy Chief Military Prosecutor, Lieutenant General of Justice
C. N. Skrebets

It may seem odd that non-violent homosexual intercourse is so low, but I guess that would be between two people who both prefer to hide it for the most part.

I don't know what "latent sodomy" is, lol?

a reply to: JanAmosComenius

where the # do you guys get your bull#.. Russian propaganda or do you just make things up?


no active front lines since 2014 - bull#. Both sides suffered more than 14k kia since 2014, excluding the current kia.

June 18-19, 2022

▪️Russian Armed Forces disabled four oil facilities in the east of Ukraine.

▪️While Russian Armed Forces are advancing in the northern Kharkiv region, pushing ZSU into Staryi Saltiv, Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups are distracting Russian units on the eastern bank of Siverskyi Donets River.

▪️Russian Armed Forces tighten encirclement in Severodonetsk: to date, ZSU holds Azot plant, lakes, and part of Syrotyne and Borivs'ke villages.

▪️Units of LPR People’s Militia are approaching Lysychans'k from the south.

▪️ZSU continues destructive shelling of Donbass: up to 400 shells are launched at DPR capital daily.

▪️Russian Armed Forces' spot strike have destroyed the command post of Alexandria Operational and Strategic Grouping of Troops in Shyroka Dacha.

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* - Zaporizka Oblast(08:35). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Bakhmut, Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(08:28). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Odeska Oblast(07:19). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Pokrovsk, Bakhmut(07:08). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Zaporizka Oblast(05:25). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Mykolaiv, Mykolayivska Oblast(02:40). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Odeska Oblast(02:37). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(00:38). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(23:31). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Russian army shelled Seredyna-Buda with 10 mortars shells

* - Explosions reported in Kharkiv

* - Bakhmut(18:44). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Coal mine was shelled in Vuhledar

* - Konotop(18:32). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Khamenei: Concerning the issue of Ukraine, the main problem is that the West is seeking to expand NATO wherever they can without taking anything into consideration (and the clueless Iranian lends his 2 cents)

* - Kharkiv, Kryvyi Rih, Zaporizka Oblast, Kirovohradska Oblast(18:30). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover
Poltavska Oblast, Dnipro, Dnipropetrovska Oblast(18:28). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(17:04). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Odeska Oblast, Mykolaiv, Mykolayivska Oblast(15:35). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - 48y.o woman wounded as result of mortar shelling in Sumy region

* - Russian army shelled Maksymilianavka and Hostre in Donetsk region, 1 killed, 2 wounded

* - Donetsk Oblast(13:20). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kramatorsk(13:18). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - NATO chief Stoltenberg warns in Bild am Sonntag that support for Ukraine must not lag. "If Putin learns from this war that he can simply carry on as he did after the 2008 war in Georgia and the occupation of Crimea in 2014, then we will pay a much higher price

* - Zaporizka Oblast, Kryvyi Rih, Dnipro, Dnipropetrovska Oblast(11:13). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - At Kryvyi Rih direction Russian army shelled areas of Chervony Yar and Kobzartsi with artillery and MLRS, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Mykolaiv direction Russian army shelled Pravdyne, Posad-Pokrovske and Blahodatne, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian army conducted missile strikes at Myrolyubivka and Hrodivka villages, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian scout groups attempting to assault Nyrkove-Mykolaivka and Vrubivka-Mykolaivka directions, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Ukrainian military repelled assaults at Orikhove-Zolote and Pervomaisk-Zolote directions, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Bakhmut direction Russian army shelled Ukrainian positions near Mykolaivka, Bilohorivka, Yakovlivka and Pokrovske, conducted missile strikes near Zaitseve and New York. Russian army conducting assault actions at Orikhove-Hirske direction, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Sieverodonetsk direction Russian army shelled Lysychansk, Borivske, Bila Hora and Ustynivka. Russian aviation conducted airstrikes near Bila Hora, Myrna Dolyna and missile strike near Verknokamianka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Lyman direction Russian army shelled Ukrainian units near Donetske and Mykolaivka, conducted airstrike near Pryshyb and missile strike at Mayaky village, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Sloviansk direction Russian army shelled Ukrainian positions near Dibrivne, Virnopillia, Kurulka, Bohorodychne and Dolyna, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Near Rubizhne of Kharkiv region Russian scout group attempted to advance, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian aviation conducted airstrikes near Tymofiivka and Tsapivka at Kharkiv direction, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Explosions in Vyshhorod district of Kyiv region as result of air defense missile launches

* - Fuel reservoir exploded in Novomoskovsk district after missile strike and fire yesterday, killing 1 rescuer, wounded 2. In total 13 wounded in missile strike, 1 killed

* - Russian army shelled Seredyna-Buda in Sumy region twice last night with mortars

* - Donetsk Oblast(09:34). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Pokrovsk(08:52). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(08:39). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!


Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)
* - Stopfake - Countering Russian propaganda about Ukraine
* - MilitaryLand - Maps

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

a reply to: Xcathdra

I may be mistaken, but I think Jan was referring to the situation in Czechoslovakia in 1968.

I pointed out similarities in the style of the invasions -- airfield seizure, entry into capital city, etc.

Jan is correct in that there was no war ongoing in 1968 between Czechoslovakia and the USSR.

Pure speculation on my part is that in 1968, a 16 year old Russian boy named Vladimir Putin was very thrilled with the Soviet operation to seize Prague. My take is that was, in his mind, a great example of how Russia should handle other countries that stepped out of line. Not to mention that the success of the 1968 operation would have been incorporated into Soviet military playbooks and may have served, at least in part, as a blueprint for the February invasion.

Cheers

Donetsk, June 19, 2022



Kiev and Kuibyshev districts of the city were targeted.
At the center of Donetsk AFU, five people were killed.
One civilian was killed at school No. 5, and two teen girls were killed at school No. 22. 12 others were wounded (two of them in serious condition).
3 people were killed after a residential area was targeted with Smerch missiles in Donetsk.
In the Kuibyshevsky district, an employee of the Ministry of Emergency Services died, and 3 more rescuers and a driver were hospitalized with various injuries in a medical facility. The driver died in hospital from his injuries.

Sources:
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19 June update

Key Takeaways

* Concentrated Russian artillery power paired with likely understrength infantry units remains insufficient to enable Russian advances within Severodonetsk.

* Russian forces continued to prepare to advance on Slovyansk from southeast of Izyum and west of Lyman.

* Russian forces are focusing on strengthening defensive positions along the Southern Axis due to recent successful Ukrainian counterattacks along the Kherson-Mykolaiv Oblast border.

* Successful Ukrainian counterattacks in the Zaporizhia area are forcing Russian forces to rush reinforcements to this weakened sector of the front line.

* Russian forces are likely conducting false-flag artillery attacks against Russian-held territory to dissuade Ukrainian sentiment and encourage the mobilization of proxy forces.

More at URL above.

Cheers

@Xcathdra

PM for you.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Got it and responded.

⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (June 20, 2022)

◽️Russian Federation Armed Forces continue launching attacks at military facilities located in Ukraine.

💥Oniks high-precision missile launched by Bastion coastal missile system has struck Artsiz airfield in Odessa region. The attack has resulted in destroying a control station for Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and 2 UAVs of this system on the ground.

💥 Within the counter-battery warfare, 11 platoons of Grad multiple rocket-launching systems have been neutralized near Kurtimovka, Ochertino, Tonenkoye, Sukhaya Balka, Novgorodskoye, Mayorovka, Otradovka and Zaytsevo over the past 24 hours.

◽️In addition, 12 artillery platoons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been neutralized at their firing positions near Dzerzhinsk, Novgorodskoye, Nikolayevka, Leninskoye, and Zaytsevo.

◽️2 M777 155-mm howitzers and their crews have been eliminated near Podgornoye.

✈️💥Operational-tactical and army aviation have neutralized 47 manpower and equipment concentration areas.

◽️The eliminated targets include: manpower and military equipment near Vesyoloye, Privolchye, and Bogorodichnoye (Donetsk People's Republic), a launching ramp of Buk-M1 multiple rocket-launching systems near Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as illumination and observation radar of S-300 air defense missile system near Novodruzhesk (Lugansk People's Republic).

💥Missile troops and artillery have neutralized 148 manpower and military equipment concentration areas of the AFU, 25 command posts, as well as 59 artillery units at their firing positions.

◽️Attacks launched by aviation, missile troops, and artillery have resulted in 450 nationalists, 13 tanks, and other armored combat vehicles, as well as 16 special vehicles.

💥Russian air defense systems have shot down 1 MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Air Force near Apostolovo (Dnepropetrovsk region).
In addition, 9 Ukrainian UAVs have been shot down near Alisovka (Kharkov region), Verkhnetoretskoye (Donetsk People's Republic), Grechishkino (Lugansk People's Republic), mound Mogila Kulicha, Tomina Balka and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

◽️9 projectiles launched by Uragan multiple-launching system have been intercepted near Malaya Kamyshevakha and Dolgenkoye (Kharkov region), Makeyevka and Avdeyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

📊In total, 208 airplanes and 132 helicopters, 1,260 unmanned aerial vehicles, 345 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,696 tanks, and other armored combat vehicles, 576 combat vehicles equipped with multiple rocket-launching systems, 2,055 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 3,731 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

◽️The enemy suffers considerable losses during the special military operation.

◽️Since May 19, during the month, only the 14th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU has lost 2,100 persons who resulted dead and wounded. Due to low morale and psychological conditions, 800 persons destined for replenishing the losses of this unit, refused to go to the operational area and accused officers of incompetence, bribery, and cronyism in paying money allowance.

◽️About 100 servicemen of a reconnaissance unit of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade have been relieved of combat duty and transported to Kremenchug for investigation.

◽️A considerable part of the commanders of the 30th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU have abstracted themselves from managing their units and refuse to fulfil combat tasks. All kinds of pretexts are used for simulating illness. The majority of units have already been left without any officers.

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Russian losses in Ukraine:

So in France, Macron's party lost their majority in the parliamentary elections, making him a lame duck president.

Regarding the war in Ukraine, I wonder if this means he'll have less time to call Putin, or if he'll redouble his efforts in an attempt to flee the difficulties of domestic politics.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

My concern is the Western countries with elections coming up seeing a change in leadership to the point of abandoning Ukraine. These countries also need to be on the lookout for Russian interference in the elections. Russia really has nothing left to lose by interfering in the elections of other countries, like the Attempt to Assassinate Leader of Montenegro in 2018.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: Xcathdra

Jan is correct in that there was no war ongoing in 1968 between Czechoslovakia and the USSR.

Cheers

Thank you, for this clarification.

Also many thanks to you and Xcathdra for honest reporting.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

My concern is the Western countries with elections coming up seeing a change in leadership to the point of abandoning Ukraine. These countries also need to be on the lookout for Russian interference in the elections. Russia really has nothing left to lose by interfering in the elections of other countries, like the Attempt to Assassinate Leader of Montenegro in 2018.

European citizens are not happy with economic/social development in Europe. Fat cats are fatter while plebs have real troubles to heat the house or feed children with decent food. This is not problem derived from Covid or war in Ukraine. Yellow jackets for example. This is principle of capitalism. Scandinavian nations are long time winners of "quality of life" contest. Strict regulations for business and robust welfare for less gifted.

Also for western part of Europe the war is somewhere far away. Folks there do not feel it as theirs trouble. Special is Johnsons UK. In my opinion he is motivated only by his PR team and when those magicians decide, all support to Ukraine will stop.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

My understanding is that Macron will cooperate with the center-right party, republicans or whatever it's called, to form a majority. They're likely to support Ukraine, but their fiscally conservative policies will anger Macron's left wing. And Le Pen's far conservative right and Melenchon's far left are both strong enough to make trouble in parliament. Because they have rules for how many seats you need to have to be allowed to launch a vote of no confidence for example.

It's funny, I would have supported Le Pen before this war, but now I don't trust her to have her priorities straight.

a reply to: Cutepants

Too much of Europe's political right is in Putin's pocket and too much of Europe's political left is in the pocket of the Brussels EU executive.

I too wonder if Marie has her head out of dead center enough to recognize that reining Putin in is no game. Of course, the German Left couldn't court Putin enough either, before the war. I suspect there are a lot of compromised people who are in key positions.

The politics in the EU nations are anything but obvious; a lot of external actors with agendas and big money.

Cheers