Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: fuzz4262


Are you claiming that Ukrainian 'rebels' are slave owning democrats?

Absurd.



They are russian soldiers, technically russian 'soft units' assisting russia in their territorial conquest ambitions.


Who exactly are you trying to fool?

a reply to: fuzz4262


I STRONGLY recommend that you learn how Starstreak actually works before giving those poor russian pilots any more suicidal tactical advise.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

The claim Donbas rebels are Russian soldiers is as absurd as the claim American rebels were French soldiers disguised as Americans to pry the British empire apart.

a reply to: fuzz4262


dombas is not a country, it is part of Ukraine that has been occupied by russia since their 2014 invasion.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

To claim Donbas ia a part of Ukraine is the same as to claim America is a part of Britain.

a reply to: fuzz4262




Don't you have anything other than absurdly pathetic Whataboutisms?

They stopped working here at least 2 years ago and now only make you look (banned words).





dombas IS part of Ukraine, regardless of how many times russian propagandists absurdly claim otherwise.

Rebels / Russian Uragan MRLS. These have comparable range to HIMARS which Ukraine buys from the US.

Chechens captured America supplied weapons in Lyman.

Rebel artillery pounding government positions in Severodonetsk and the use of thermal scopes for correcting fire.

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originally posted by: fuzz4262
Rebels / Russian Uragan MRLS. These have comparable range to HIMARS which Ukraine buys from the US.

Is that what russia told you?

Cuz nobody else would make such an off the charts absurd claim.




Ukraine has no HIMARS, and the max range is 300 miles (500km), which is roughly 10x the max range of those russian toys.

It does appear that we are about to send them some though, and a large number of them have been relocated to Europe in the past few days.





HIMARS has a best CEP (depending on the load) of 10 meters (30 feet) from 300 miles.

Not a typo, 30 foot precision at 300 miles.

I repeat: 30 foot precision at 300 miles.





Are you not aware that HIMARS in Ukraine will mean that EVERY single russian soldier on Ukrainian soil will ALWAYS be in range 24x7?

Ukraine is.




Do you know how many russian cities are within 300 miles of Ukrainian troops right now?

Ukraine does.

Pro Tip: It means folks in Moscow should start making evacuation plans ASAP.




Do you not understand what giving HIMARS to Ukraine means for russia's fantasy about holding onto Crimea?

russia does.

Pro Tip: it means that short of hurling those repeatedly threatened nukes, russia has zero chance of holding onto Crimea, not even the naval base.

Zero.





The best CEP on the few dozen of the newest russian model available is 30 (100 feet) at 15 miles. Longer range russian loads up to around 30 miles are available, but CEP jumps to 150 (500 feet), making them absolutely useless for anything other than indiscriminate city destruction.

Is russia planning more indiscriminate city destruction in Ukraine?

Sure looks that way.





Seriously, your government has been lying about your 'high tech' weapons compared to ours for a very long time, russia doesn't have anything even remotely close.

The putin madman should have accepted Ukraine's surrender terms and immediately retreated from all Ukrainian territory, now russia itself will be the battlefield, including moscow (or at least it's western suburbs).

Looks like Russians are starting to open their eyes.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Wow!


Incredibly brave Russian Patriots publicly DEMANDING an immediate withdrawal of ALL russian forces from Ukraine.



This is so unexpected I'm at a loss for words.

Three Cheers for those 3 brave politicians!

I would LOVE to shake their hand someday.

For now this is the best I can do.

Low flying Alligator tank / artillery smashers in Donbas. Flying low makes it dip below the horizon from a distance because Earth is round and this counters air defense.

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originally posted by: fuzz4262
Low flying Alligator tank / artillery smashers in Donbas. Flying low makes it dip below the horizon from a distance because Earth is round and this counters air defense.

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All your posts seem to come from twitter.

I've never found twitter to be particularly accurate.

Got any other sources?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Controlled opposition. You know, put on a show. Real opposition are arrested and thrown in jail for opposing war effort.

originally posted by: fuzz4262
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Controlled opposition. You know, put on a show. Real opposition are arrested and thrown in jail for opposing war effort.

I don't think these guys are for show.

I think there will be more.

originally posted by: fuzz4262
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Controlled opposition. You know, put on a show. Real opposition are arrested and thrown in jail for opposing war effort.

The putin madman killed or jailed his 'controlled opposition' long ago.

Those words may get them killed by their government.

Not exaggerating.

That was incredible bravery on display.

a reply to: Annee

Same idea a ship sails dips below the horizon once it's far enough and you cannot see it anymore even with a telescope. Because Earth is round. Christopher Columbus proved it in 1492.

originally posted by: fuzz4262
Low flying Alligator tank / artillery smashers in Donbas. Flying low makes it dip below the horizon from a distance because Earth is round and this counters air defense.

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Why do you think flying low will help russian pilots?

Are you trying to get even more of them killed?

I STRONGLY suggest that you research modern 'manpads' before making those claims again, it's no longer possible to hide under the curvature of the earth.

originally posted by: fuzz4262
a reply to: Annee

Same idea a ship sails dips below the horizon once it's far enough and you cannot see it anymore even with a telescope. Because Earth is round. Christopher Columbus proved it in 1492.

Sigh...


Modern 'manpads' (kamikaze drones) do not need to find a target prior to launch, they can simply be fired into the air in the direction of the jet engine noise and they'll find the target on their own, from altitude.

Flying map of the earth is suicidal when these are around, and the U.S., UK, and others have given Ukraine a whole lot of these.