Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

originally posted by: johndulles
unbiased reply. They actually care for the civilian population and need to extract them from ukrainian soldiers using civilian population as shield. Not exactly an easy task to do.
meanwhile ukraine destroyed all bridges.
I guess if russia would go full scale and flatens everything, they'd go faster.

at least that is my current understanding.

Then why does russia keep bombing those civilian populations?


Your 'understanding' is absurd.

originally posted by: Sthrndream
I wonder who the next Russian troll will be entering this thread. Seems like we average a new one every two days and they disappear.

Newbies learning the ropes or vets just testing to see what sticks. What sticks, usually ends up being talking points for russian prop a day or 2 later.

They've been here since before our respective join dates and some are respected members now. ATS is a prop school.

Weird how everyone's join dates have changed and now show it down to the second. Did the "billing issue" cause that

Highlights from video below:

* - Finland is inspecting all of its nuke bunkers.
* - Reports Putin has blood cancer.
* - FSB sends memo to its regional chiefs to dismiss reports and downplay reports of Putin's terminal condition.
* - Russian state media is now reporting NATO is trying to start a war with Russia.
* - Russian MoD has started setting up prisons for soldiers that are refusing to fight.
* - Russian forces north of Kharkiv are essentially routed all Russin forces in that area are now retreating to Russian territory.
* - Russia redeploys 4 BTG's from Izyum and shifted North to block Ukraine forces from taking Kupiansk / supply lines.
* - A big part of Russia's failures to cross the river (where they took heavy casualties) was because of the Howitzers.








Highlight from video below:
* - A new General, General Igor Ventura (SP) has been appointed as new Commander of Russian forces. This seems to confirm the rumors that General Gerasimov was removed from his position by Putin.

* - Ukrainian aviation and artillery conducted 100 strikes against Russian positions in Kherson region, including at Chornobaivka airfield

* - Russian deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov: we will pose direct threat to NATO to match "direct threat" designation

* - Russian troops attempted to cross the border in Shostka district of Sumy region this morning, withdraw after clash with border guards

* - Explosions now audible in Kherson

* - Sweden, Finland NATO bids are 'grave mistake': Russia

* - Russian army shelled Mykolaiv with MLRS, 1 wounded

* - Russian strategic aviation launched missile strikes against Odesa region, including tourism infrastructure and damaged bridge over Dnistrovsky Estuary. 3 wounded, including a child

* - Smoke visible in Bilhorod-Dnistrovsky after missile strike

* - Explosions audible in Odesa, preliminary air defense is working

* - SecDef Austin: I spoke again today to @oleksiireznikov to discuss the situation on the battlefield and Ukraine's capability needs. I briefed him on my call May 13 call with Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu, and I reiterated our unwavering support for Ukraine's sovereignty and security

* - A car exploded in Kyiv, no details

* - Ukrainian combat aviation destroyed a crossing over Ingulets river

* - Big boom in Kramatorsk just now

* - Video: Mobile Ukrainian M777 battery, eastern Ukraine

* - Territorial defense reached border of the Russia in Kharkiv region

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)
* - Stopfake - Countering Russian propaganda about Ukraine
* - MilitaryLand - Maps

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

* - Missile launches over Belgorod this evening

* - Belarus claims Ukraine and NATO are amassing soldiers and military equipment at its borders - we are ready to respond to "any provocations" - deputy head of general staff

* - President Zelensky Appoints Major General Igor Tantsyura Commander of the Territorial Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

* - Video: Ukrainian soldiers At border line to Russia just north of Kharkiv

* - Video: Ukrainian drone hit Russian tank at Izyum direction

* - Ukrainian Air Defense shot down 2 Russian helicopters(Ka-52 and Mi-28 and 5 Orlan-10 UAVs at Donbas

* - Russian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76MD RA-86906 airborne from Crimea

* - Only 10% of Luhansk region is under control of Ukraine - head of regional administration

* - Mykolaiv, Mykolayivska Oblast(12:23). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)
* - Stopfake - Countering Russian propaganda about Ukraine
* - MilitaryLand - Maps

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

Flightradar24

* - SWR137Q - Halvetic airways flight squawking 7700 (emergency) - Near Liechtenstein

* - FORTE12 - Northrop Grumman RQ-4B Global Hawk / USAF - pareoling Black Sea
* - HOMER11 - Boeing RC-135W Rivet Joint / USAF - patrolling Romanian - Ukraine/Moldova/Black Sea border
* - MULE20 - Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker / USAF - circles over central romania
* - JAKE11 - Boeing RC-135W Rivet Joint / USAF - Over Poland RTB
* - NATO01 - Boeing E-3A Sentry / NATO (Luxembourg) - over Romania taking up station
* - NO CALLSIGN - Tupolev Tu-154M / Russian Navy - Over Baltic en-route to Kaliningrad
* - BBX302 - Leonardo AW139 / Denmark - Over Black Sea (close to Romanian waters)
* - RSD92 - Tupolev Tu-204-300 / Rossiya - Special Flight Squadron - Entering Black Sea near Novorossiysk
* - MMF18 - Airbus A330-243MRTT / NATO (Netherlands) - Over central east Poland doing circles
* - SVf645 - Gulfstream IV / Swedish air force - Patrolling Poland - Kaliningrad / Belarus / Ukraine border
* - R2819 - Sikorsky UH-60M Blackhawk / US Army - over southeast Romania
* - SQF101 - Let L-410 Turbolet / Slovakia air force - over north east Poland
* - R2856 - Sikorsky HH-60M Blackhawk / US Army - Over Latvia
* - R2866 - Sikorsky HH-60M Blackhawk / US Army - also over Latvia
* - SVF851 - Lockheed C-130H Hercules / Swedish air force - Over Baltic Sea heading south
* - N21 - CASA C-295M / Finland air force - Northeast of Kemi (Finland)
* - NO CALLSIGN - Yakovlev Yak-40K / Sukhoi civil aviation - Northwest of Saratov
* - RF78817 - Ilyushin Il-76MD / Russia air force - over restricted airspace northeast W. Russia / E. Ukraine area (looks like civilian air traffic over W. Russia / E. Ukraine zone has been routed farther East, using Kazakhstan air space).

* - Russia won't simply put up with NATO's Nordic expansion, Ryabkov says

LONDON (Reuters) -Russia said on Monday that the West should have no illusions that Moscow will simply put up with the Nordic expansion of the U.S.-led NATO military alliance to include Sweden and Finland, casting the move as a mistake that would stoke military tension.

Vladimir Putin, Russia's paramount leader since the last day of 1999, has repeatedly cited the post-Soviet enlargement of the NATO alliance eastwards towards Russia's borders as a reason for the invasion of Ukraine.

The war, though, has fomented one of the biggest changes to Europe's security architecture for decades: once unthinkable moves by Sweden and Finland, which shares a 1,300 km (800 mile) border with Russia, to join the military alliance.

"They should have no illusions that we will simply put up with it - and nor should Brussels, Washington and other NATO capitals," Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov was quoted as saying by the state RIA news agency.

Ryabkov, who led talks with the United States on a doomed Russian proposal to halt NATO's eastward expansion, said the decisions by Helsinki and Stockholm to join the alliance were a mistake.

click link for article

So after Russia tells other countries they run their own affairs, they once again threaten those very same countries for doing just that.


* - Russian Bloggers 'Shocked' at Military's 'Incompetence' in Ukraine: Report

Russian mini-bloggers are "shocked" at their military's "incompetence" as Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to push his internationally condemned invasion of Ukraine, a new report said.

Moscow began the full-scale unprovoked assault on its Eastern European neighbor on February 24, drawing rapid backlash from the majority of United Nations General Assembly countries. Although the Kremlin reportedly believed that Russian troops could easily take control of much of Ukraine's territory and topple Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's government, they have largely failed to achieve their objectives.

After reports surfaced Wednesday that Ukraine had destroyed a Russian unit attempting to traverse the strategically significant Siversky Donets river in Ukraine's southeastern Donbas region, a number of Russian observers of the conflict reportedly became alarmed. Drone footage has since confirmed the reports of the Russian unit's destruction, the Atlantic Council reported Friday.

click link for article

Hahaha..
Russia,in its incomprehensible wisdom,has taken over the French automaker Renault's main Moscow factory.
They are nationalizing the plant-and converting it to restart the manufacture of...the once popular(?) Moskvitch car from the Soviet era!

Russia has nationalized a major factory that belonged to Renault and intends to use it to revive the famous Soviet-era Moskvitch car in what the French automaker categorized as a “responsible choice” for its thousands of employees in Russia.

The move appears to be the first major transfer of private assets into state hands after Russian officials threatened to nationalize Western businesses exiting over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com...


Great move Russia!
Now that the war has generated supply problems of things like fancy chips and electronics,you can continue making vehicles that don't even need any pesky modern microelectronics.

Wonder if they will sell well?
Maybe start exporting?
Just look..could YOU resist one of these sleek beauties?

op...eniso.org/wp-content/uploads/parser/Moskvitch-2140-1.jpg

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Wonder if those will have all the modern conveniences like roll up windows and AM radio.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Wonder if those will have all the modern conveniences like roll up windows and AM radio.

And you wouldn't believe the cornering on these babies

14 May update

Key Takeaways

* Catastrophic Russian losses in a failed river crossing and the military incompetence displayed in that crossing have shaken the confidence of some prominent Russian milbloggers.

* Russian forces continue shaping operations for the Battle of Severodonetsk from the south even though those losses have at least temporarily disrupted their efforts from the north.

* Ukrainian forces announced that they will conduct a counteroffensive around Izyum.

* Russian forces continued to withdraw from northern Kharkiv Oblast, but will likely seek to hold a line defending their ground lines of communication from Belgorod via Vovchansk to Izyum.

More at URL above.

Cheers

15 May update

Key Takeaways

* Russian forces will likely prioritize winning the Battle of Severodonetsk over reaching the administrative borders of Donetsk Oblast.

* Russian forces did not advance in the Slovyansk direction due to unsuccessful offensive operations in the Izyum area. Ukrainian aviation continues to operate north and east of Izyum.

* Russian forces continued to launch artillery, air, and naval assaults on the Azovstal Steel Plant, but Mariupol defenders maintained their positions.

* Russian forces are fortifying occupied settlements along the southern axis, indicative of Russian objectives for permanent control of the area.

More at URL above.

Cheers

'Russia is running out of manpower' and Putin may have to shrink his war aims more: national security analyst

.......According to Sanner, anxiety about how Putin will respond is slightly overblown, and she argued that "basically, Putin can't do anything" and that Putin has already moved the goal posts by declaring the countries' potential expansion of NATO doesn't pose a threat to Russia.

"I don't think there's that much [Putin] can do, so he doesn't want to make a big deal out of it because it will look stupid," Sanner said.

RELATED: Mitch McConnell takes shot at Rand Paul after meeting with Ukraine's Zelenskyy

Sanner also spoke to Russia's fledgling military campaign, which has seen significant setbacks due to the ferocity of the Ukrainian military's defense, saying the world is "starting to see some cracks" in Putin's stability as a leader due to the fact that "people are starting to recognize" that the Russian government is struggling, especially in light of "anecdotal reports" that some Russian troops are starting to refuse orders.

"Russia is running out of manpower and that means that Putin may have to change his war aims even more narrowly."

click link for article

a reply to: Xcathdra

First Russian goes on trial for war crimes.

a reply to: alldaylong

I don't know what the Ukrainian prison system is like, but if it's anything like Russia's, and with the size of that little fellow, evil bastard that it is all the same, he's going to have fun in jail.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: alldaylong

I don't know what the Ukrainian prison system is like, but if it's anything like Russia's, and with the size of that little fellow, evil bastard that it is all the same, he's going to have fun in jail.

Lets see how tough he is without a gun in his hand.

a reply to: alldaylong

I don't think that's the kind of weapon he's lightly to have "in his hand" if/when found guilty.

Jail the lot of them, and they better hope Ukraine don't still have the death penalty considering the atrocities some have committed.

a reply to: alldaylong

That's quite an interesting story that the unarmed Ukranian man killed by the Russian soldier worked for the KGB during the Soviet Era and even protected the soviet leader Brezhnev at one point, so of course there's a big sense of betrayal in that story that leaders in Moscow would send in troops that ended up killing this man who devoted part of his life to protecting leaders in Moscow years ago.

a reply to: alphabetaone

# a real car!