Russia Ukraine Update Thread

originally posted by: randomuser

originally posted by: 38181

originally posted by: randomuser

originally posted by: nolabel
a reply to: randomuser

If history is any lesson the Russian Federation will throw away the lives of hordes of troops without a care in the world for them.

All governments will throw away the lives of hordes of troops without a care in the world for them. The general public are inconsequential to the elite.

Russia has now lost more troops in 30 days than the United States has since the end of the Vietnam War.

Supposedly 15,000 Russian troops in 30 days vs 58,000 troops in almost 20 years in Nam. Hmmmmm.

I don't know if your first language is English so you may not understand what you quoted. "Since" means from then onward. It would not include the part before then. So since the end of the Vietnam war would not include Vietnam. Apologize for your misunderstanding.

Great, thanks for pointing out your needless complexities of adding incidents non related to your point.

Just say, Russia lost more troops in 30 days than the US has from 1975 to March 26th, 2022.

a reply to: Jamie2018


1200 people trapped inside the Mariupol theatre is an obvious lie

First Ukraine said there were 300 people trapped in the basement at Mariupol theatre. When questioned how they knew it was 300 people, Ukraine replied because they already had a list of people in the theatre before the bombing.

and then Ukraine said survivors were dug out of the rubble

and then Ukraine said there were a thousand people, before it was bombed

Next video was published of people calmly stumbling down a staircase, no smoke, no crying, no screaming

then Ukraine said survivors were rescued from the first floor?

Look at the photos... what first floor?



Mariupol theatre bombing was a staged event

originally posted by: randomuser

originally posted by: nolabel
a reply to: randomuser

If history is any lesson the Russian Federation will throw away the lives of hordes of troops without a care in the world for them.

All governments will throw away the lives of hordes of troops without a care in the world for them. The general public are inconsequential to the elite.

Russia has now lost more troops in 30 days than the United States has since the end of the Vietnam War.

don't know that that is a really valid point of comparison. different countries and peoples fight wars differently. and Russia, with it's huge population base, has always used quantity over quality in war at least in part due to that. such as in ww2 where they wouldn't even have anywhere near enough personal weapons or even ammunition to equip attacking troops. yet they sent those unarmed troops anyway giving each person a few bullets (sometimes like 5 or 6 rounds each), even if they didn't have a gun. with the idea being once killed or out of ammo someone else would take over the gun and use their ammunition, until killed or out of ammo. not to mention by doing so the also gave the Germans more targets to contend with, pretty much using their numbers alone to overwhelm the Germans. to the Russians, their people were the weapon. just as many here stated during the beginning of things like school attacks, that all they need to do, is just every kid, literally rush and overwhelm a shooter. because the simple fact is numbers can easily win, even unarmed vs a weapon. because of course a shooter is not able to easily fend off say thirty kids rushing into attack, there is no way you could shoot them all before you are overwhelmed by the swarm.

so i really doubt that such numbers are really any concern to Russia

originally posted by: PacificViking
a reply to: Jamie2018


1200 people trapped inside the Mariupol theatre is an obvious lie

First Ukraine said there were 300 people trapped in the basement at Mariupol theatre. When questioned how they knew it was 300 people, Ukraine replied because they already had a list of people in the theatre before the bombing.

and then Ukraine said survivors were dug out of the rubble

and then Ukraine said there were a thousand people, before it was bombed

Next video was published of people calmly stumbling down a staircase, no smoke, no crying, no screaming

then Ukraine said survivors were rescued from the first floor?

Look at the photos... what first floor?

Mariupol theatre bombing was a staged event

Are you trying to convince us that there were no civilians in the theater, or that it wasn't bombed?

Cuz we already know better than to put any faith into the accuracy of early casualty numbers from a rapidly changing war zone.

a reply to: generik


It wasn't population count, it was peasant count.

Russia doesn't have the peasant count anymore, and the rest of the population is signaling indications of a massive revolt if mass conscriptions were to begin.

a reply to: PacificViking

The 1st floor / ground floor (depending on country) is the main floor with entrances / exits. Being a theater it probably had a level above the 1st/ground floor but not completed so people can see the stage.. Under the 1st / ground floor is the basement.

What exactly is your issue with this?

It still does not negate the fact that the people would never have had to be there in the 1st place had Russia not invaded.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

No my point is that your Ukrofascist mates stage these PR events irrespective whether there were two, three, four, three hundred, or three thousand civilians killed, it doesn't matter,

because either way Ukraine lies. and whichever civilians were, or may have been killed, they were there purely as human shields and the building was destroyed by the Azov Brigade, not a Russian warplane.

a reply to: PacificViking

I see your pushing the Nazi lie... 600 people are not representative of the entire population of Ukraine nor of the Ukrainian military. So how bout you stop posting debunked bs lies that Russia is constantly telling.

As far as fascist goes all you need to do is look at the Kremlin, being Putin is behaving exactly like the Nazis did.

Also, again, people would not be dead had Putin not invaded Ukraine.


Also out of curiosity what was the name of your other account here?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u



Maybe my point is that you haven't bothered to read the article which i posted?

Ukrainians themselves bombed the theatre as a PR stunt

originally posted by: PacificViking
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

No my point is that your Ukrofascist mates stage these PR events irrespective whether there were two, three, four, three hundred, or three thousand civilians killed, it doesn't matter,

because either way Ukraine lies. and whichever civilians were, or may have been killed, they were there purely as human shields and the building was destroyed by the Azov Brigade, not a Russian warplane.

Thanks for the propaganda pudding.

Do you have any evidence of such things?

originally posted by: PacificViking
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Maybe my point is that you haven't bothered to read the article which i posted?

Ok, sure.

Ukrainians are blowing up shelters to make russia look bad.

Never mind all the stuff caught on video elsewhere, russian forces invaded Ukraine in the most humanitarian way possible and aren't really committing any war crimes.

Were the russian duds discovered in civilian areas also fake?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: PacificViking

The 1st floor / ground floor (depending on country) is the main floor with entrances / exits. Being a theater it probably had a level above the 1st/ground floor but not completed so people can see the stage.. Under the 1st / ground floor is the basement.

What exactly is your issue with this?

It still does not negate the fact that the people would never have had to be there in the 1st place had Russia not invaded.

Right. Biden told Russia its OK if they invaded "a little bit". He should not have stolen the White House and we'd be talking about uplifting subjects.

originally posted by: PacificViking
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Maybe my point is that you haven't bothered to read the article which i posted?

Ukrainians themselves bombed the theatre as a PR stunt

The Russians have invaded Ukraine and are bombing them. I will give you proof. Jehovah's Witnesses are neutral in all countries they live in. They do not get involved in wars and do not get involved in politics. In fact in Russia they have been banned there is a plethora of information about the lies and mistreatment of the Russian Federation against them here: JW-Russia

Here is a recent update provided by the Jehovah's Witnesses from Ukraine:

Our fervent prayers continue to be with our brothers and sisters in Mariupol, where street fighting and bombings continue. Sadly, six of our brothers and sisters died during the bombings. Altogether, ten brothers and sisters have lost their lives in Ukraine. Also, as reported in the news, a theater in which more than 1,000 people were sheltering was bombed last week. None of our brothers were killed in this attack, but a few suffered minor injuries.

About 750 of our brothers have escaped Mariupol, while approximately 1,600 remain. Many of them are located in the east of the city, now under Russian control.
Source

You probably aren't interested in this video and it wasn't made for you but I leave it here for your consideration. Jehovah's Witnesses were the first to be persecuted in Nazi Germany, and were smuggling diagrams out of the country of the concentration camps of the locations and names, exposing everything that Hitler was doing years before WWII started, and long before the world in general knew what was going on. They are a very united group of people and are truthful. That is why they are banned under governments that do not allow freedom of speech, religion, assembly, etc.

JW Update

a reply to: ARM1968


That's all that putin is really hoping for now.

Ukrainians don't appear to be interested.

Time to iron curtain Crimea and East of Dnipro.

Which is understandable. The millions of Russians there with decades upon decades there with ages old cemeteries… have a right and independence and self government.

Coming from Clinton and NATO’s playbook in 99’

when they ILLEGALLY bombed Serbia for 78 days… and forced Kosovo (Muslim and Al Queada extremist backed) took away from Serbia.

Who vandalized centuries old Serbian Monasteries and were forcing Serbian civilians (there for centuries) to leave and had Serbian villages massacred. (but they won’t show that on CNN)

Then 2 years later 9/11 happened go figure.




Go ahead and support years of Hilary/Biden that led it to this. (It’s not a anti Biden/ pro Trump thing here either)

They shaped Ukraine for this like a puppet and still are with Biden’s stuttering cringey speech in Poland.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Russia had been doing very well comparing to what in the media had been claiming. The fact that Zelenskyy is calling for supply of planes and tanks from NATO says that they are running out of them.

Ukrainians don't appear to be interested.

Which Ukrainians? the western side ones?

a reply to: Imhere

They shaped Ukraine for this like a puppet and still are with Biden’s stuttering cringey speech in Poland

That cringey speech was enough to see that Biden is just a puppet to. I wont be surprised if they try to send US ground troops Biden likely leaked out the plans.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I see your pushing the Nazi lie... 600 people are not representative of the entire population of Ukraine

The stats of the number is a lie that there are only "600" you ignore the police officers in Ukraine had nothing to prevent far right militias from burning down Roma camps.

They had been called out sevearl times nothing was been done.
Ukrainian authorities must take immediate action against right-wing violence targeting the Roma population

the other cases mostly involved far-right paramilitary groups. The most recent attack was carried out just nine days after a stabbing outside of Lviv, indicating the urgent need for immediate action and protection by Ukrainian authorities.

The authorities had no interest in investigating in such attacks.

The failure of national police to adequately respond to at least eight violent incidents

With Axes And Hammers, Far-Right Vigilantes Destroy Another Romany Camp In Kyiv


Just 600 Right?

In May, right-wing thugs attacked a Romany camp in western Ternopil. That followed the burning of one in the nearby village of Rudne in the Lviv region.

Ukr aine’s Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence (And No, RT Didn’t Write This Headline)

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Russia had been doing very well comparing to what in the media had been claiming. The fact that Zelenskyy is calling for supply of planes and tanks from NATO says that they are running out of them.

Ukrainians don't appear to be interested.

Which Ukrainians? the western side ones?

It only means that he wants more of everything, not that he's running out of anything (assuming certain s300 commitments have been delivered, they were probably out of these for a while).

The Ukrainian government, and apparantly most Ukrainians not in the recently russia infested dombass or crimea.

a reply to: vNex92


You wanna hear what cartels and gangs have done in the U.S. recently?

Still no justification for invading a non threatening neighbor.