Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: vNex92

I am sorry, I have to bring up this definition here:

surround
/səˈraʊnd/

verb
be all round (someone or something).

Or are you talking about Ukrainians. Then, yes. Putin keeps trying to surround them.

Your thoughts are very interesting.

how would you feel when you are surrounded near your home the guys that with weapons?

Keeps me guessing where are you coming from with all this. One thing is to question things (that's why I don't post 99% of things I'm reading online about the conflict), but other thing is to deny the obvious.
Btw, I know how it feels when somebody is coming after your freedom. Unfortunately, this does make me biased.

a reply to: vNex92

"When it comes to Cold War the EU is still stuck in the past."

That's just comedy gold.

Putin is trying to recreate the old Soviet Union.

By war.

But it's the EU that's stuck in the past?!!!!!!!!😀🙄👀

a reply to: vNex92

Not my logic at all.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: wordforword
Crazy? how would you feel when you are surrounded near your home the guys that with weapons?
would you let them do as they please well they surround you?

Russia is hardly surrounded now, is it?.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: agenda51


Not angry, they played their part pretty well this time.

Well better than the last few times at least.

I guess... maybe. I am not really seeing it. I guess they have better information control with all the censorship. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see through most of this though. I dont see most people buying it regardless of what they report. Kind of tough to convince folks when you have lost all credibility.... fake news and all. They are really shooting themselves in the foot putting all these experts on who have been caught repeatedly lying. They would be better off firing everyone and using fresh faces to push this. Better actors with more convincing delivery. Maybe the pool has shrunk too much and they dont have much to choose from anymore. I expect we will see them dig up Bill Orielly and Megan Kelly pretty soon. Not much credibility there either but you have to work with what you have I guess.

One things for sure. Veil sure has been lifted on a bunch of folks. Couple of the talking heads kind of surprised how pro WW3 they are. Like I said... truth always comes out eventually.

originally posted by: majesticgent
Food for thought. With many countries banning all Russian aviation from flying in their airspace, does that mean some Russian airliners / private jets are stuck on the ground, or will they only allow them to leave their airspace and not return?

Well this answers my question

European Union takes further action to isolate Russia

The European Union (EU) is closing its airspace to Russia, said European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

“We are proposing a prohibition on all Russian-owned, Russian-registered and Russian-controlled aircraft. These aircraft will no more be able to land in, take off or overfly the territory of the European Union. This will apply to any plane,” von der Leyen said.

“Our airspace will be closed to every Russian plane. And that includes the private jets of oligarchs too," she added.

The UK has also banned Russian private jets from its airspace on Friday.

(Bold emphasis mine)

They are stuck there

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: andy06shake

Agree, Putin needs to be removed, even said that in my original post. I believe 99.99% of the world would agree Putin needs to go...no one is arguing that point.

NATO's mission was to protect Europe against Soviet aggression...Soviet Union fell, NATO expanded. How many western politicians, military commanders and people still have the same antiquated cold war mindset?

Hell, I'll never trust the Russians just because that's how I grew up, that's how I was indoctrinated.

I respect your honesty and humility. I can also understand your point. Unfortunately there are many zealots on here that are above utilizing peripheral information to better the discourse. They prefer their blinders and their one-liners.

a reply to: majesticgent

I wonder if some will become museum pieces, like the remnants of the Red Star train in the Hungarian equivalent of a "railway bone yard".

Cheers

a reply to: majesticgent

“Our airspace will be closed to every Russian plane. And that includes the private jets of oligarchs too," she added.

The Russians will likely do the same and EU's trade with be blocked.

It has to be scary and surreal to watch Russian TV and see it being hacked by Anonymous posting a different kind of stuff about Ukraine.
I wouldnt feel good in the stomach being a Russian in Russia right now. We are kinda on the receiving end right now but they have to feel like bad days are coming and there's no way back

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vNex92

"When it comes to Cold War the EU is still stuck in the past."

That's just comedy gold.

Putin is trying to recreate the old Soviet Union.

By war.

But it's the EU that's stuck in the past?!!!!!!!!😀🙄👀

And Hitler's clone Putin is now complaining about the the legality of sanctions..

what the actual....

But its ok to do what he's done ...

The Russian top brass need to retire Putin ... he's become a menace

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vNex92

"When it comes to Cold War the EU is still stuck in the past."

That's just comedy gold.

Putin is trying to recreate the old Soviet Union.

By war.

But it's the EU that's stuck in the past?!!!!!!!!😀🙄👀

And Hitler's clone Putin is now complaining about the the legality of sanctions..

what the actual....

But its ok to do what he's done ...

The Russian top brass need to retire Putin ... he's become a menace

The Oligarchies have the money. Pay his henchmen to bump the moron off.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: majesticgent

“Our airspace will be closed to every Russian plane. And that includes the private jets of oligarchs too," she added.

The Russians will likely do the same and EU's trade with be blocked.

We don't want any trade with russia anymore.

Why would we?

Not paying attention?

Block whatever you want.

We REALLY don't care.

a reply to: LetTheColdCome


So russia didn't just do more invading?

Are we supposed to care that they go by a different name this time?

And WE are the 'zealots'?

Funny.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Indeed. We can make our own Vodka, thanks, and no one wants their cars.

And you shouldn't buy Russian underpants, either.

Why? Because Chernobyl fall out.

Works better spoken than written.....

a reply to: agenda51


They didn't try to blame Trump for imaginary things 24x7.


It's a start.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vNex92

"When it comes to Cold War the EU is still stuck in the past."

That's just comedy gold.

Putin is trying to recreate the old Soviet Union.

By war.



But it's the EU that's stuck in the past?!!!!!!!!😀🙄👀

And Hitler's clone Putin is now complaining about the the legality of sanctions..

what the actual....

But its ok to do what he's done ...

The Russian top brass need to retire Putin ... he's become a menace

The Oligarchies have the money. Pay his henchmen to bump the moron off.

Don;t think it will be long for him now... But he might just get retired to ill health , either way he needs to be gone of the world stage.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: majesticgent

“Our airspace will be closed to every Russian plane. And that includes the private jets of oligarchs too," she added.

The Russians will likely do the same and EU's trade with be blocked.

We don't want any trade with russia anymore.

Why would we?

Not paying attention?

Block whatever you want.

We REALLY don't care.

Not really that simple but whatever. Lots of catastrophic long term effects from this. Energy dependence will quickly become the USAs downfall.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse
This is really starting to look like "no honour amongst thieves".
In fighting amongst the WEF perhaps?
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: agenda51

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: agenda51


Sure.

russia intentionally took down Ukraine's internet and Ukraine asked the world to help, but SuperMusk didn't realky know who he was galloping in to save on the roof of his Cybertruck?

Yeah, that makes sense.

Elon needs to drop some weight before he tries galloping anywhere. All that tech has made him get fat.

Now that's just rude.

Fat shaming someone who just stepped forward when millions were in desperate need.

Do you talk to putin that way?

(JK, nobody lives after that)



Is Elon even over weight?

Why would anyone except Elon care?

I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

How did I end up in this 2nd grade classroom?

Can you show me where the adults are?

Elon doesnt care what I think. He doesnt even know I exist. His feelings are fine.

Adults are all on TV telling you what to think and playing on emotions. I get it... I have kids.

My parents taught me well. Pretty sure I learned how to spot BS by the 2nd grade. My kids sure knew that television was not reality at that age.

Yet you still tried to publicly fat shame someone you've obviously never even met to make some kind of political point.

Maybe you should ask mom for a refresher.

Or your kids, they probably know better too.

Nanny state and all.