About nine million doctors are either corrupt, negligent, cowards or a combination of all three

a reply to: nonspecific

He just wanted me to try anyway.

And like i said, getting sent to the psych ward is a common punishment here. For example, one person had been exposed to covid, he got a call from the doctor who told him he needs to get tested right away, the person said i live in the middle of nowhere, i will self quarantine for two weeks, after that i will get tested, phone call ended. A couple of hours later a police car drove to the drive way, they forced their way in, handcuffed the person and took him straight to the psych ward. they strapped him down in a table and took the test by force, It took days before he was able to leave. this case is going to court soon.

Do you have some links to the newspaper articles?

Where do you love this sounds horrific?


a reply to: XipeTotex

a reply to: nonspecific

Would rather not say, not worth it to draw attention like that.

a reply to: nonspecific

If covid 19 is not as it seems as some people suggest then that means over 9 million doctors are either complicit in this deception or too dumb to realise they are being lied to.

I realize your post is sarcasm, since I have read a number of you post on the vaccine. But I'll give you some examples of how this could be.

Doctors rely on information given to them by the pharmaceutical company's and the CDC/FDA. While you may not think the pharmaceutical company's would do such a thing. Or a government oversight agency could be that stupid or complicit. Just look at the FAA with the Boeing 777 max. And a lot of countries rely on our data.

In 1996 Long before opioids were addictive. I was hit by a drunk driver, while riding a bicycle. My right shoulder took most of the damage, essentially ripping it apart. I spent about a month with screws holding my shoulder together, and was given lortabs for pain. When the orthopedic surgeon removed the screws, I ask for more lortabs. As I was still in quite a bit of pain. The doctor was absolutely adamant it was to dangerous for me to keep taking lortabs. He prescribed me Darvon instead, saving me from a life of addiction, but sentencing me to a life of heart problems. Darvon
If you read that link, you will see just how incompetent and complicit the FDA is. How did one doctor know lortabs were addictive. But most were prescribing them like candy?

Look at the political environment. 74 million people voted for Trump. 80 million for Biden. If you believe those numbers. Out of that 74 million most think that Mr grab em by Blank, is a great guy done nothing wrong. The same with Biden. He was accused and is on video of feeling up women without their consent. Even made a statement saying he got it. No more touchy feely. Jan 6th. Tourist attraction gone bad. Afghanistan It's going as well as could be expected. Nothing wrong here.

The problem is human bias. The vast majority of human brains simply can not be objective. Compounding the problem is big tech tracking people. They are not doing it just for advertising. They are using this information to exploit the bias flaw within the human brain.

I am quite frankly surprised humans have made it this far.

So that's a no becuase there is no links then.

It's just a story you heard from some dude?



a reply to: XipeTotex

a reply to: nonspecific

No, it was in the news.

So can I see the article please.



a reply to: XipeTotex

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Have you any thoughts on why so few autopsies are done on deceased recipients of the clot shot?

Are TPTB trying to keep secrets?

originally posted by: nonspecific
So can I see the article please.



a reply to: XipeTotex

No, too close to home. It makes no difference if you believe me or not.

I'll stand by my opinion that you made it up then.

As you say it alters nothing for either of us really.


a reply to: XipeTotex

a reply to: nonspecific

It takes between 10 to 14 years to become a fully licensed doctor.

So lets say at 35 you finally finish up everything, you have all these school debts you need to pay down.
By 40 you are sill paying them down but now you are also in debt with a mortgage for a house and probably owe on a nice car.

Faced with the choice of telling the truth and the possibility of throwing away 15 years of education and losing everything; the average doctor will follow the narrative to survive; go along to get along.

I don't blame them they are human.
But this is the big problem, those that have spoken out have said when we politicize medical treatment and cut off open opinions with dire threats we do great harm to the totality of all medical treatments. It's an evil system.

originally posted by: nonspecific
But if this information is so easy to see and understand how did they not spot it all a mile off?

You've got regular folks here all the time talking about spike proteins and CT cycles in PCR and all that stuff so if they can find all this information and then thoroughly comprehend it enough to make an informed decision how come these so called professional doctors can't?

That's why I said they must all be in on it.





a reply to: shasta9600

Because Drs and health care proffesionals around the world should never have spent all those years of gaining qualitifications, certification, placements and experience.

Instead they should have watched bitchute videos made by chiropractors, veternarians and quantum-crystal healing woo quacks.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: nonspecific
But if this information is so easy to see and understand how did they not spot it all a mile off?

You've got regular folks here all the time talking about spike proteins and CT cycles in PCR and all that stuff so if they can find all this information and then thoroughly comprehend it enough to make an informed decision how come these so called professional doctors can't?

That's why I said they must all be in on it.





a reply to: shasta9600

Because Drs and health care proffesionals around the world should never have spent all those years of gaining qualitifications, certification, placements and experience.

Instead they should have watched bitchute videos made by chiropractors, veternarians and quantum-crystal healing woo quacks.

The thing is they don't see the information because they aren't looking for it. Not only that, often the issues is with the data and methodology. Doctors often just look at the conclusion unless they are predisposed to investigate more thoroughly.

For example, many Docs will see "hospitalizations increasing" and just run with that because the CDC said so. They will parrot to their patients that hospitalizations increasing. However, more curious docs and people might want to see the source data and find out the "increase" is really going from 2 people per 100,000 to 3 people per 100,000. A whopping 50% increase! Headlines will yell 50% increase in hospitalizations leaving out how small the numbers actually are and that it statistically insignificant relative to actual population.

As I demonstrated earlier, the docs that do point this out get shut down.

It isn't even just Doctors though. I live in a super liberal community and you have to walk on egg shells lest you find yourself attacked for questioning the narrative of any liberal dogma whether it is race, economics, social issues. Speak out of turn even if the facts support you and get attacked by the woke mind hive. Of course, never once addressing the actual issues but personal attacks and attempts to shut down your business.

a reply to: Edumakated

I've no idea how things work in the US apart from it having very poor healthcare standards but it certainly doesn't work that way in the UK and Europe - All hospital specialists have to report any ADE to the relevant Royal College and University for thorough investigation and several cures and treatments have been discovered and are in practice - i.e taking a non-heparin based anti-coagulant both eliminates the rare risk of blood clots and is a very succesful treatment.

Drs have to be experts in deductive reasoning and thorough investigation in order to and treat and diagnose patients. They can't gain the qualifications if they're unable to properly read or analyse a scientific paper and have to investigate everything properly before administering a vaccine or drug or they'll lose their liscence to practice medicine.

I had my GP, neurologist and consultant neuro to investigate and give their opinions on the pros vs the cons in regards to my personal health. No Drs outside the US follow or pay much/any attention to what the CDC claim.

Locally (Lancs, UK) doctors and healthcare proffesionals were warned to be on the look at for, but prohibited from informing patients, the press or general public of outbreaks until resources had been allocated to avoid causing a mass public panic and overwhelming local hospitals. While it's true the press abused stats to sell papers, it's what they've always done and

The approach in Nothern Europe for people with complex health needs is for their doctor to spend at least seven hours chatting and getting to know the patient when they're in 'good health' so they can provide the correct treatment for the patient when they're health declines - It takes that duration of time for true Dr-patient trust to build up and for the Dr to learn that persons ticks and idiosyncracies.

In the UK most GPs do this unpaid in their lunch hour as government targets don't allow them to offer appointments longer than 15 mins or so.

Perhaps GUILT is a key driver of the record number of physician suicides in America?

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: sapien82
well the wrong doing I can see is the trampling of peoples rights all over the world for something just a little more dangerous than the flu for our species.

Well I can agree here, but there are different issues people are mixing.

Then there is the total media government drive with pharma to get these vaccines out , and I just dont trust these pharma companies

This is the other side I have no issue with. The vaccine is a good thing, forcing people against their will is a bad thing. The vaccine is helping a lot of very old and ill people to not die from the virus. Now to force it on a group that is in the .0001% is bad and stupid to use as your measurement for success.

originally posted by: nonspecific
*snip*
I could be wrong with this figure bit the internet seems to think that there's around 9.2 million doctors worldwide. Apparently there's over a million in India so that figure could be pretty accurate.

If covid 19 is not as it seems as some people suggest then that means over 9 million doctors are either complicit in this deception or too dumb to realise they are being lied to.
*snip*

From experience I would say you are right. And yes I know that is not your intent, but fact is I meet more and more doctors these days who just follow the play book on doctoring. None do their own research, they just read others papers and do what they're told. And they all have something in common, same as you and me.

They're humans. Humans make mistakes. Many humans can be 'intelligent' but that does not mean they are 'smart'.

Being a doctor, or a physicist or policeman, or soldier or politicians etc. etc. DOES NOT make you infallible.

Want a famous example? Look at Neil Degrasse Tyson. People consider him some kind of know all scientist, when reality is he has made tonnes of screw ups and stated plenty of incorrect 'facts' and when he was an actual 'scientist' he failed hard.

I'll let you google that one.

But by what you're implying here and stated on many other threads on this site, using your logic we should believe Neil and everything that comes out of his mouth without question. The same as we shouldn't question doctors or politicians and expect they know better than us.

Are 9 million doctors in on this? Perhaps not intentionally. But as the courts will tell you. Ignorance is not an excuse.
But indeed many are 'in on it' in the sense they are just repeating what they're told and not fact checking sh*t for themselves.

Okay, so I'm not a doctor myself. But here's the thing. It doesn't mean I am not intelligent, not capable of doing my own research and most of all it does not mean I am not not smarter than a brain surgeon or GP and every medical field in-between.

And I have learned and confirmed this from experience. Due to ongoing health issues I have had to deal with quite a few medical doctors over the years. And a scary amount of them are honestly useless and some are borderline moronic. I often find myself doing their job for them, telling them what tests to run etc.

Same for psychologists. and various other jobs where people would roll their eyes because 'you don't have the right badge', despite I myself knowing damn well I know what I am talking about and understand it better than those who do 'wear the badge'.

Met plenty of cops who managed to do the training and pass, yet I untrained in law enforcement know Australian law better than they do.
So because they have a 'badge' and I don't should I remain silent because despite knowing better, I lack the 'qualifications'?

I've mostly worked in IT nearly all my adult life. I know a sh*t load about technology. More than the average person.
But you know what? I DO NOT know everything about every computer, chip and circuit made. I constantly have to make an effort to keep up to date on the latest and greatest and even then a lot of my knowledge comes pretty much from other 'experts' and a lot of it I have to just trust is correct. And no matter how smart and educated I am, there will always be someone with more knowledge and smarts than I. I have to trust them as I do not have enough time in my life to check every piece of information that comes into my brain. nobody can. Although if in doubt, I will question that information and fact check it. (and not in a way that suits me.)

In a way I am an 'electronics doctor'. But more than that I am human, and I make mistakes. So do many other experts in my 'field', many with more 'certificates' than I. Hell I have met plenty of computer technicians and website designers who were absolutely clueless, but they passed the test. All they knew was what they were shown. They never picked up a book and learned 'how to code' if the need arose, they just copy'n'pasted everything.
They could pass the test, but they couldn't do anything on their own, they were stuck following what they were told.

No way you or anyone else can convince me Doctors are different. Again this applies to any field, doctors, cops, firemen, IT guys, nurses, school teachers.
Plenty of doctors and scientists have been shown their work is bunch of crap upon proper and thorough peer review and let's be honest here, out of the 9 million doctors you mention, how many are doing or publishing research that is being reviewed constantly?
How many doctors have indeed given out dangerous drugs because 'big pharma' told them to and that they were safe? Plenty let me tell you.

Is your local family doctor setting up their own virology lab and doing their own research into covid and vaccines?
Or is it more likely they're just opening their email and seeing the CDC or whatever you have in your country and just going with it?
Are they one of these doctors who have been shown to just say whatever the pharma companies have paid them to say or push the drugs they've been paid to push? Doctors can get 'sales bonuses' too.

If doctors were infallible 'malpractice' wouldn't be in the dictionary.

Any way what was the point again to what we're discussing?

Oh that's right we're all idiots for questioning things, but no doctor is capable of being an idiot because doctor and no other reason. That about the gist of it yeah?

9 million+ doctors around the world and they're all, all knowing saints with the same knowledge, training and standards regardless of location who should not be questioned.

Now whatever you typed your post on, go and pour a large jug of hot coffee into it, it will make everything you write truer and speed up the performance of your device be it phone, computer or calculator.
As a qualified IT expert you need to trust I know what I am doing and just do it because I clearly know better than you and my qualifications make me infallible and superior to anyone who does not have a computer degree of some sort.

You can also trust me when I tell you to press ALT+F4 on your keyboard right now.
I mean do it, because literally hundreds of other people I have told to press ALT+F4 have done so without question so that should show I am trustworthy.

You see what I am saying here yet?

tl;dr doctors are human too and all that implies.

I look forward to your reply. Please try to not cherry pick and read between the lines though after all I'm not a CDC report.

I'd provide links to back up everything I have stated but you know what, google, bing and duckduckgo aren't that hard to use.

The U.S. Surgeon General is on TV News Shows today telling everyone what they must do to end the Pandemic safely, even though he has (thus far) allowed 10 member of his own family to do die from Covid-19, while treatments were available.

Dr. Vivek Murthy - All must be vaccinated and boostered!: thehill.com...


If Dr. Murthy Advises doing it...Strongly Consider doing the opposite.

I just wrote a huge reply than spazzed out and lost it so straight to a tldr for now.

Doctors are human, some will be dumb, some lazy, some corrupt.

There's 9 million doctors and around 18 million nurses worldwide. I've no idea of how many scientists that are in relavant fields but let's say another 10 million for now and round down to around 35 million?

Even 99.9 percent of the above were discounted that still leaves about 35,000 who would be clever enough to figure it out and moral enough to stand up and say so.

Not only that but they would all be saying exactly the same thing as it would he the actual truth.

But right now we are not seeing this are we?

There's a hand full of various doctors, scientists, dieticians and alternative practicioners making claims but they are not even all the same claims based on the same data or evidence?

At what point did we become so distrusting that we believe one over one million?


a reply to: AtomicKangaroo

a reply to: bastion

I had my GP, neurologist and consultant neuro to investigate and give their opinions on the pros vs the cons in regards to my personal health. No Drs outside the US follow or pay much/any attention to what the CDC claim.

The UK only beat the FDA by 6 years in banning Darvon.

Drs have to be experts in deductive reasoning and thorough investigation in order to and treat and diagnose patients. They can't gain the qualifications if they're unable to properly read or analyse a scientific paper and have to investigate everything properly before administering a vaccine or drug or they'll lose their liscence to practice medicine.

Darvon was patented 1955. I can not find exactly when it went on the market in the UK, but lets say 1975. That's around 30 years for their deductive reasoning to kick in.

In the UK most GPs do this unpaid in their lunch hour as government targets don't allow them to offer appointments longer than 15 mins or so.

That does not inspire a lot of confidences in the UK health system.