History Forum proposal. :)

originally posted by: SLAYER69
I second this idea. If there were a thumbs up icon still available I would have used it.

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Um…

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
ATS should not become a digital archive consisting of regurgitated "official" narratives.

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: SLAYER69
I second this idea. If there were a thumbs up icon still available I would have used it.

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Um…

LOL...

Slayer's post dates back to 2013.

*cough*

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
ATS should not become a digital archive consisting of regurgitated "official" narratives.

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

Me likie there are different angles to approach history the Lost Civs forum I enjoy a lot but if I wanted to dig deep into the era of say Lincoln and the twist and turns he had to make to reach certain decisions, well that forum isn't quite built for that for Lincoln's era was not lost or ancient.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

a reply to: Spider879

Or what it was like to be a plebiean farmer during Edwardian era England - and the loss of historical farming skills when the industrial revolution kicked in and changed everything there was to know about ecological farming.

Or all the work that went into building the Notre Dame Cathedral... or the Hoover Dam.

Nothing conspiratorial there, just interesting educational little factoids and tidbits, and folks sharing their knowledge.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
ATS should not become a digital archive consisting of regurgitated "official" narratives.

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

Well, you people have a difficult editorial decision to make. I will just conclude by recusing myself from further ad infinitum elaborations of my thoughts on the matter.

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

And your avatar is making dizzy I think Iam having a seizure..

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
ATS should not become a digital archive consisting of regurgitated "official" narratives.

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

That in it's self would be wonderful! As they say, history is written by the victors.

So much of history has been rewritten. Most of us were lied to in primary school only to hear different version in college. Plus they are constantly rewriting and revising history. Sometimes The history books today's children are taught from, tell different stories than the ones many of us grew up with. Sometimes due to political correctness other times due to political agendas.

Hidden History would be a great idea. Some of our best fiction writers have been historical correctionest. From honest Abe, who was the number one railroad attorney in the country, to the pilgrims added to the thanksgiving feast, who were the last of the puritans under lord protector Cromwell (see evil itself); we have all heard corrected information.

Also, history is full of convenient omissions. No high school curriculum that I have ever seen would include the 1880's US invasion of Korea, the banana wars, The Polar Bear war (Arch angle), or even the real story of the trail of tears. This is only a few examples just from US history; World history could keep us busy forever.

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

And your avatar is making dizzy I think Iam having a seizure..

Orson Welles "F for Fake". Get a copy of it and study it closely. You might be surprised to know that art "experts" confirmed as authentic the forgeries of Elmyr de Hory. en.wikipedia.org...

To put this in full context, you also have to remember that, Orson Welles was primarily responsible for the hoaxed radio dramatization of War of the Worlds. en.wikipedia.org...(radio_drama)

For further context there is the Clifford Irving hoax involving Howard Hughes which coincidentally unfolded during the Richard Nixon administration at a time when Nixon was finishing his first term in office and revving up for re-election in 1972.

To add further context, you could speculate about Christopher Nolan's decision to set aside his Howard Hughes project/ script " I think it’s the best script I’ve ever written, and I had a really wonderful experience writing it. Will I revisit it? I have no idea," he said. At this stage in his career Christopher Nolan could produce anything except a bio on Howard Hughes... because it's off limits.

blogs.indiewire.com... 141110

Warren Beatty also had a Howard Hughes film in development but he has never gone into production because the gatekeepers of the Howard Hughes mythology have forbidden it... and these film makers comply why? Howard Hughes has been dead for almost 40 years... but his secrets are still protected.

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

And then came Leo DeCaprio in 2012... The real question is, who was truly behind that film's distribution? Anyone can make a film but without distribution it will remain unseen.

ETA: SkepticOverlord and I have spent hours in, and filmed the Mustang reports from Howard Hughes' bungalow in Las Vegas with the one and only G. Knapp (the bungalow is in his station's parking lot after all), it's a magical albeit compact ranch house in the parking lot of a major ABC affiliate, think about that for a minute or two.

a reply to: Springer

What do you think of the statements by Christopher Nolan, arguably, one of the top directors in all of film making right now, who has a script that he wrote, he says it is his best script and he doesn't even know if it will be made into a film.

It's a script about Howard Hughes why would Nolan want to set it aside? Obviously you have spent some time with some knowledgable Las Vegas insiders. Do you have any ideas why Christopher Nolan and Warren Beatty would shelve their Howard Hughes film projects and why would Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese get the "green light" for The Aviator in 2004?

For me the question always comes back to "who is controlling the Hughes narratives?" which is similar to the main question about the proposed History Forum --- who gets to control the historical narratives in a History Forum? And nobody has so far answered that question adequately, in my estimate, all they have said is that they want a History Forum, which in my opinion is not just inadequate - it is downright frivolous.

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

But you promised so many times you would stop.
So many.
Sigh~

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
ATS should not become a digital archive consisting of regurgitated "official" narratives.

Maybe a "Hidden History" forum. A place were members research all the important events to peel back the official narratives, and reveal what really happened.

YES! This! This is the kind of history that I like. Dispelling the popular myths that surround much of the history we think we know.

a reply to: Springer

Which Bungalow? I love reading about Hughes Lore.
This one was demolished, though I know there were a few.
www.8newsnow.com...

a reply to: zazzafrazz

That's funny. I didn't even know you posted this when I suggested the forum. I'd really love to see a history forum.

a reply to: Skid Mark

Great minds Skid, Great minds.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Hi sweetheart, just wondering if that would be putting our heads together to piece meal the truth of history verses the lie written by the victors?

a reply to: antar

I think which ever gets our juices flowing
and whichever Bill and Mark say Amen to.