Russel Brand: The time for Revolution is now.

reply to post by benrl


Russel wouldn't even be on TV if he were actually a threat.

This guy came out of nowhere and gives me no real reason to listen to him over my own judgement.

Any intelligence this guy has comes straight from the demons controlling him. If you look, you can see it in his eyes. If he is calling for revolution he must be talking about a satanic revolution.

heliopolis

Zen24
reply to post by heliopolis

 

Ok thanks ill check it out. Does he plan on starting a community anytime soon?

I think he is but I'm not entirely sure. He explains in more detail in the vid. And I'm sure he has a website where you can sign up free of charge for more info. I'd be interested to know what you think once you get chance to watch the video.

Im definitely signing up on his site. No money, no trade, no bartering, no attachments, and everyone contributes for the greater good of all in the community. 3 hours a week 1000 people 3000 hours of work, at that pace their would be abundance amazingly fast. Whether it be fishing, baking bread, farming, milking cows, boiling water. Btw when I say no attachments, it means all contributions are equal from crap shoveling to a brain surgeon. If just one or two towns became self sufficient like this and then sold some of their abundance to neighboring towns for very cheap prices, the neighboring towns would have to follow suit. If not, they'll be forced to once their local stores go out of business. Thus creating a domino effect. Thanks for showing me this

reply to post by teachtaire


Lol so your saying your judgment of current political problems and poverty levels differ from his? He does say revolution, but it can be a peaceful one if people are sensible. Don't jump to conclusions

reply to post by beegoodbees


It's people like you who screamed for the crucification of Christ. Jumping to conclusions every chance u get because you're angry about something non related. Revolution can be peaceful, but I doubt you'd let it be peaceful

teachtaire
reply to post by benrl

 

Russel wouldn't even be on TV if he were actually a threat.

This guy came out of nowhere and gives me no real reason to listen to him over my own judgement.

he has been a rather successful stand up comedian // actor and radio presenter for many years before all this.... typical Americans forgetting there are actually people of relevance outside the USA.... lol

reply to post by Disclosure Agent


... lies.

Zen24

heliopolis

Zen24
reply to post by heliopolis

 

Ok thanks ill check it out. Does he plan on starting a community anytime soon?

I think he is but I'm not entirely sure. He explains in more detail in the vid. And I'm sure he has a website where you can sign up free of charge for more info. I'd be interested to know what you think once you get chance to watch the video.

Im definitely signing up on his site. No money, no trade, no bartering, no attachments, and everyone contributes for the greater good of all in the community. 3 hours a week 1000 people 3000 hours of work, at that pace their would be abundance amazingly fast. Whether it be fishing, baking bread, farming, milking cows, boiling water. Btw when I say no attachments, it means all contributions are equal from crap shoveling to a brain surgeon. If just one or two towns became self sufficient like this and then sold some of their abundance to neighboring towns for very cheap prices, the neighboring towns would have to follow suit. If not, they'll be forced to once their local stores go out of business. Thus creating a domino effect. Thanks for showing me this

No problem, you're welcome

The guy seems to have thought it through pretty well. More and more people are starting to look for alternatives to how societies can function without the need of money or governmental control. Tellinger is somebody who might be on to something...

reply to post by Disclosure Agent


Lol it does appear that way sometimes.

Brand has got alot smarter since offending Andrew Sachs over sleeping with his granddaughter Georgina Baillie.

Truth is good. Change is inevitable. Let's make it for the good of mankind and planet earth.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

So you want a capitalist, decentralized caste system?

You need government to enforce a caste system. Before you say some nonsense like this please read up on the caste system. It still exists in some places, India comes to mind. Capitalism in the US is long dead. There is no economic freedom. Economic liberty is antithetical to a caste system and does not belong in the same sentence with a caste system.

The caste system is NOT a decentralized system. It is a closed loop. You're either in a good caste with economic privilege or you are not.


Lastly, Russell Brand is hardly a deep political thinker. He's regurgitating the leftist revolutionary crap we've been hearing since the 60s.

He's a comedian, I think a funny one. But he's a clown. A court jester, not the court.

reply to post by TheLastStand


The constitution did not fail..............We failed the constitution. Would a new document fix the progressive mindset that allows this happen..........NO.



The world runs in cycles and we are at a turning point in time. The constitution will become a flame that will burn so bright when it catches it will blind you.



Bottom line gun ownership and freedom of speech are the thin line that will save the world. Hope is not lost........The progressive filth we crash once again upon the rocks of liberty. Men like Jefferson,Adams,King will rise again when the hour is late dear readers.

reply to post by teslahowitzer


The American Revolution was fought by approximately 3% of the population. Hardly a majority that woke up then. Now it would take more than 3%, but not a majority.

Zen24
reply to post by beegoodbees

 

It's people like you who screamed for the crucification of Christ. Jumping to conclusions every chance u get because you're angry about something non related. Revolution can be peaceful, but I doubt you'd let it be peaceful

edit on 25-10-2013 by Zen24 because: (no reason given)

No one has ever cried for the crucifixion of fictional characters. However I was there when winnie the pooh went too far and I did cry for his execution. RIP honey bear.

Sarcasm aside, the dude has no morals or ethics so you can take his statements just as seriously as a campaign promise.

reply to post by benrl


I like Russel. Though the way things are looking, I'd assume his life to be in danger for speaking out against the perps, which is unfortunate, because he his quite handsome. I never did assume him to be a dunce, and I am very glad that he brought up a bit of the reporters family history. I feel badly for those who would berate Russel because he was somewhat at odds with the regal appearance of the old chap.

reply to post by heliopolis


Yes I agree. IMO personal enlightenment is a microcosmic analogy for how the macrocosmic world should change. The descriptions of enlightenment say we are all already enlightened. We all have the perfect mirror of consciousness and their is nothing wrong with the mirror/consciousness. Except dust has collected onto the mirror, the dust being false sense of self/ego/seemingly uncontrollable thoughts stemming from fear because we are afraid to lose something. Enlightenment doesn't mean you gain anything, on the contrary, it's the transcendence/destruction of something that is blocking the pure mirror/consciousness from seeing clearly. Now on the global level, unity=enlightenment. Ego=money and the sense that if we relinquish money their would be a loss of self, a deep fear which manifests into the illusion that government is needed. Some people don't have faith in fellow humans, but if money were to be transcended that fear would be gone. What reason would their be to fear? The haves and have nots would disappear. Like enlightenment, we don't need anything new to replace the old, we just need to get rid of the old and everything will be natural again. I just wish Tellinger would make a post saying its time to start, and I'd be there in a heart beat.

One thing I love about ats is you get to see the mentality of a wide population set, you get to see the attitudes out there that directly oppose real meaningful change.

Sadly it's not even malice, it's being so locked in to the past that you fail to see the present or future for what it is.

Brand is one man, he's not Christ, he's not a revolution leader, he's not the solution.

He's one man standing and saying what he sees.

Watch the people come from the wood work to tear him down.

One man, one fallible man, one fellow human being.

Saying this is wrong.

He's not even calling for revolution, he is saying it's already happening.

He's saying the common folk are waking up to the madness, it's happening if we like it or not.

The only question is how will we let it end.

None participation and apathy are not an option, we are all in this together.

Apathy is you putting your bets on the status quo, and frankly good luck with that.

reply to post by JakiusFogg


I have sacrificed an awful lot to be where I am today. I help run our family business, which we started because we were forced to sell our crappy, crumbling, electrical death trap of a house, when my father left. The position he left us in, had us basically out on the street, because even with the money from the sale, we saw it EVAPORATE on over priced rental housing (even a crappy, run down, mould infested, cat piss-smelling dive will cost about six hundred ponds PCM here) not to mention the mortgage payoff. My mother ended up sofa surfing, my sister ended up bedding down at my dad's flat, and at friends houses, and I ended up on the street.

It was a few years later, when I was nineteen or so, that mother started the business , using the pitiful sum we had left,with a friend of hers with some engineering smarts, a call out plumbing and lock smithing outfit, running out of a start up unit, out of a business park down here. My mother, my sister, and I were still in precarious personal circumstances, but we ploughed everything we had into that business. In march of two thousand and five, we moved the thing to a shop front store on a small road in our home town. We have run that business on a damned shoestring. None of us, not me, not my mother, not her business partner, nor my sister have ever seen a brass farthing return on that emergency investment. I have never been paid minimum wage, or anything like it since I started working there, because if I had of been, the business would have folded and we wouldn't have been able to afford to even rent the flat that my mother and I, and up until recently, my sister, share.

We support each other, because we knew that no one was going to do it for us. The government have placed every possible stumbling block in our path, failed to protect us from the ills of crappy landlords who allowed our shop to flood due to sub par rainwater drainage, failed to assist even we, who have tried for more than a decade to help ourselves, not to mention taking every opportunity to raise taxes. Jakius, after more than a decade of struggle, after everything we have been through, we still have NOTHING to show for it. I am twenty eight years old now, and I cannot even afford national insurance payments. Despite having worked like a dog, I am worse off than if I had been on the dole.

Right now, my family support me, and I support them, because no one else gives a damn.

Now, how can it be that a fellow like me, who has helped build a small business from the ground up, which serves its communities needs better than its own, can have no prospects and no security for the future, while some fellow who helped orchestrate the largest example of economic terrorism in the history of mankind can walk out of it with a golden handshake? How is it, that when her Majesties revenue and customs come after folk like us, for our annual tax returns,they do it with so much more gusto than when they go after the companies which some how forget to pay tens of billions of pounds of taxes? Why is it that people from the working class background, get crapped on all damned day, when it is THEY who do the hard work, while cretins who push paper get left to their own, often nefarious devices?

Why does my government consistently attack the working poor? Because no one is looking out for us. No one has an interest in our position, our opinion, or our safety. That's why, even as skint as we are, even as much as we have to struggle to keep our business open, we offer the lowest rates around, and make exceptions to even our very reasonable tariffs, for people who simply haven't got the money. We do these things because we love our fellow countrymen, and we want them to be supported. Our government do not do it worth a damn, so it falls to us, and people like us, who have to struggle, but see no reason not to offer what lee way we can, when we can to others in need.

Our government is more able, and less willing to help people who really need it, than even our cash strapped little business. They would rather victimise disabled people, by claiming that a woman with a severe spinal injury that has seen her house bound for close to twenty years, is capable of traveling to a job and performing a duty, and trying to take her benefits away as a result of such a spurious claim. They would rather support the right of a landlord to keep vulnerable tenants in substandard, mould ridden dwellings, rather than support the young mothers that are currently at the mercy of such landlords.

This cannot continue. Oh, and by the by, whining about how hard Mexicans have it right now doesn't mean a damn thing. Oh sure, that's sad and all, and I am concerned for them, but my responsibility is to make sure me and mine can eat, and after that to do what I can about the rest. Right here in the UK we have much higher cost of living than any South American nation, so yes, I am still poor, just not by the standards of those who live elsewhere on the planet. Just because a fellow in a village in Kenya might be able to build a school with my yearly food budget, doesn't mean a god damn thing to my situation, because I cannot provide for my own old age at this point. I am looking down the barrel of a crap immediate future followed by probable starvation when I get to pensionable age, because I cannot pay into one right now. I am looking at still being living with my mother for the next fifteen bloody years, having no autonomy despite working longer hours and tougher circumstances than anyone who has ever worn a suit to work, getting NOTHING despite giving everything.

Justify that , go ahead. Tell me that the system doesn't need a terminal re-adjustment. I bloody well dare you. The truth is that the system under which we live, is designed for the benefit of few, at the expense of many, and that cannot stand.

beegoodbees

Zen24
reply to post by beegoodbees

 

It's people like you who screamed for the crucification of Christ. Jumping to conclusions every chance u get because you're angry about something non related. Revolution can be peaceful, but I doubt you'd let it be peaceful

edit on 25-10-2013 by Zen24 because: (no reason given)

No one has ever cried for the crucifixion of fictional characters. However I was there when winnie the pooh went too far and I did cry for his execution. RIP honey bear.

Sarcasm aside, the dude has no morals or ethics so you can take his statements just as seriously as a campaign promise.

contradicting much? Nothing is moral or immoral. Only ignorance, if you had lived his life through his body, been brought up the same exact way. You would have done whatever "immoral" things he has done too. People are the conditioning that is imposed on them until they realize they're not the mind body or emotion. Then and only then does ignorance leave like darkness to a light and consciousness being that light. The watchful peaceful presence. When you speak of morality, immorality sneaks through the back door.

reply to post by Zen24


Lacking colors from a palette makes you a better artist.

Not having the words to describe an idea empowers you.

Psychological gravitas doesn't matter.

benrl
One thing I love about ats is you get to see the mentality of a wide population set, you get to see the attitudes out there that directly oppose real meaningful change.

Sadly it's not even malice, it's being so locked in to the past that you fail to see the present or future for what it is.

Brand is one man, he's not Christ, he's not a revolution leader, he's not the solution.

He's one man standing and saying what he sees.

Watch the people come from the wood work to tear him down.

One man, one fallible man, one fellow human being.

Saying this is wrong.

He's not even calling for revolution, he is saying it's already happening.

He's saying the common folk are waking up to the madness, it's happening if we like it or not.

The only question is how will we let it end.

None participation and apathy are not an option, we are all in this together.

Apathy is you putting your bets on the status quo, and frankly good luck with that.

Exactly, instead of discussing productive solutions to a peaceful revolution and lasting change for the better of all. People objectify Brand, letting his past influence their opinion of the words he speaks. If a person they see as respectable said the same thing, they'd react totally different.