So the Republicans are Terrorists now...

dominicus
There is quite a lot of talk on this thread that is starting to make a lot of people sound like terrorists

Careful what you say

LOL, oh I wouldn't be surprised if names haven't been taken down and forwarded to DHS for further investigation. Typical NAZI attitudes.

AngryCymraeg
The Republicans aren't terrorists, that's just silly. No, they're morons who have somehow allowed themselves to be hijacked by a bunch of insane tea hatters who don't understand science, politics and basic reality.

I don't agree, I don't think democrats either understand or care about basic reality.

The tea party is what America was founded on, we weren't a country to be founded for the purpose of big government and over-taxation.

You've fell into the media's propaganda.

Here is another doozy by the right.

You've seen the ads..the ones where the government is in the examination room..insinuating that the government should stay out of personal matters concerning healthcare..etc, yet have no issue with meddling into a women's personal decision to abort her baby and that the government should get involved and put a stop to it..

How many times can they contradict themselves on issues?

reply to post by AlienScience


That's always the backstop position, nah nah you guys just don't like Obama - the cult of personality surrounding this guy reminds me of national socialism and all of its regalia, to be honest that's getting scary. Of couse its the pulling of the race card as a last defense slyly without coming right out and saying it - gee theres that national socialistic tool again!

I could give a rats behind, bad policy is just that no matter who it came from. The founders tried to protect the Republic from democracy by imposing limits on governmental powers which includes congresses right to the purse strings. If you know any civics at all a Republic protects the minority from the majority rule or straight up unimpeded democracy which fails under the weight of largesse the people tend to do for themselves under that flawed system.

The ACA as written is about control of the people and another juicy sector of the economy - it may help some but only as an accidental side effect from its true goal of making a permanent and deeper class of government dependent lackeys who will perpetuate those in power to stay in power.

It is truthfully my opinion those in power do not have this countries interest foremost in mind. Read my signature line below quoting Lee Sheldon.

Anyone who lines up behind an American political ideology be it Republican, Democrat, Conservative, or Progressive, and defends that ideology at all costs deserves their enslavement. Not only is their ignorance and lack of mental faculties destroying this country, it is because of their blindness that this cannot be fixed. You can't blame the elected representatives for being evil when you in fact vote for these people and don't do anything about it when they screw us all over. Basically I'm ready to sit back and watch it all burn. Nothing could be more beneficial for these people (and in turn the rest of us) than a dose of reality.

If you defended either Republicans or Democrats in this thread, yes I am speaking directly about you.

Onslaught2996
Here is another doozy by the right.

You've seen the ads..the ones where the government is in the examination room..insinuating that the government should stay out of personal matters concerning healthcare..etc, yet have no issue with meddling into a women's personal decision to abort her baby and that the government should get involved and put a stop to it..

How many times can they contradict themselves on issues?

I assume your are referring to this ad done by an independent organization named Generation Opportunity?

optout.org...

www.youtube.com...

Not sure you get where the abortion part is? Creepy for sure but your rendition of the ad's are a tad of the mark considering the add is just at an OB/GYN. However, you're a prime example of the left misuse of facts, however.

reply to post by Bearack


Nice attempt at faking ignorance or was it real?

Of course I know there was nothing about abortion in there. It was basically insinuating government will involved in your healthcare and personal matters concerning your health which the right loves to yell they are against.

I was pointing out their stance on abortion..how they feel it is OK for government to meddle in a women's personal matter when it concerns abortion.

The contradiction : Government stay out of healthcare and personal matters but only do it when it doesn't affect us personally or we disagree with what another's personal decision is.

reply to post by Bearack


Perhaps you're unaware of the several states that have enacted unnecessary and forced vaginal probes on women seeking abortions, thanks to the good ole boys at the GOP!?!

reply to post by windword


Perhaps you're unaware that Obama and dems enacted unnecessary and forced anal probes on the country seeking individual choice, thanks to the good ole boy's and girl's of the DNC!?!

This makes more sense.

Well, perhaps "terrorists" is hyperbole... unintentionally hilarious, inept, destructive to society and lacking in any vision regarding leadership might be more apt.

I agree that most partisan bickering, lately especially, is pointless and destructive grandstanding, but I also believe, based on many reasons, that of the two arbitrary "sides," the recent incarnation of the GOP is ludicrous.

Both "sides" have problems and are seemingly endlessly disappointing ... but the GOP is so far gone that it defies reason with every public utterance. I long for the days when the Republicans were just hardhearted (or pragmatic) accountants.

reply to post by thesaneone


I don't have any idea what you're talking about, but what I'm talking about is absolutely real, forced physical penetration of a real live woman that is seeking an abortion, a procedure that is considered so unnecessary that insurance companies won't pay for it.

Your cute little metaphor doesn't cut the mustard of what the GOP is actually doing to real live women.

Also the cry for government stay out of lives...does not count towards two consenting adults of the same sex who want to get married or engage in sexual activities in their own homes.

Am I correct conservatives..

reply to post by windword


What? A women elected to go and have a baby scraped out of her and then complains about getting probed? okay, lets get back on topic.

Onslaught2996
Also the cry for government stay out of lives...does not count towards two consenting adults of the same sex who want to get married or engage in sexual activities in their own homes.

Am I correct conservatives..

I can't speak for any other conservative, my Constitution says its none of the governments business either way.

The part that talks about fed gov power and its limits "shall be reserved for the states and the people respectively"

Basically should be no law for or against on the federal level whatsoever.

reply to post by thesaneone


Right, why not add insult to injury? Let's punish financially and emotionally too!

She's already been probed once. Let's take what little dignity she has left. Heaven forbid a women should have a choice without being #ed one more time!

windword
reply to post by thesaneone

 

Right, why not add insult to injury? Let's punish financially and emotionally too!

She's already been probed once. Let's take what little dignity she has left. Heaven forbid a women should have a choice without being #ed one more time!

There it is finally after 8 pages we agree on something let us all have a choice without being effed one more time by the government.

reply to post by thesaneone


Yeah, except my example is literal, and is being demanded by the GOP, not Obamacare, while your example is a metaphorical whine.

Just before the shut down, the GOP tried one more time, in their War on Women, to eliminate birth control from the ACA.

I don't believe the TP are terrorists. That is what so tragic about this. They accomplished against their own country what the terrorists failed at, shutting down the US government. Causing great suffering and stress. I don't know what the name for that action is. Not patriotism.

Why is abortion brought into this argument. I am No Choice as it is NOYFB.

This is a sideshow that is used by government to make you argue about something that has nothing to do with how they are probing you with more laws that make more tax. They are fundraising off the clsoing of the government and at the same time the media is calling Republicans evil because they want WW2 vets to go to the monument that honors them? WTF folks.

If someone wants an abortion, until it is made illegal which will never happen as it is used for crowd control and has been by the left since slaves were freed, how about we leave it out of the argument as if they want one SOMEONE will find a way to get it and pay for it.

This is about what the current regime is doing. Stop blaming Bush, the Tea Party, ISON, the media and this list goes on and on. NO ONE wants the PPACA. No one is marching on Washington saying 'give me my obamacare/' because the cat it out of the bag about how bad it is.

If anything, the PPACA is a hidden version of the 'Enabling Act'. If you do not know what that is I suggest you look it up....

Let me just remind you all that political slander is not new. And in all truth, it's been a whole lot harsher in years past. It's surrounded this country from the beginning due to the passions involved. I, for one, commend the passions (although yes, it can get a little out of hand at times)...

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward.

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

Founding Fathers' dirty Campaign