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Q&A Session with John Lear

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posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 10:59 AM
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excellent. we can't even discuss soul suckers on the moon without the long arm of the infolaw sqeulching it because it is 'organised deception'
guy can't even start his own religion anymore.
i think it was clearly stated in the beginning that everything is awash in disinfo and the statements are the opinion of the guest. where is the deception? can a man not say what he believes without the onus of proof? i can't prove there is a christ, yet i HAVE had a deeply religious experience(two actually) involving the one and only jesus christ. yet i believe the bible is full of inconsistencies and contradictions.
was it really a grey? or a satellite transmission tuned to my vibrational frequency? maybe.
was it just my mind playing tricks on me? maybe.
the catholic church is the biggest organised deception on earth. we let catholics spout there rhetoric here, why not our famous guest?

i'll see you on the dark side of the moon -pink floyd.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:06 AM
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gj Skeptic Overlord, you moron......................

the whole point of the forums is to allow everyone to share their opinions, not to be knocked for it. I hope you are happy jack a$$



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:15 AM
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porky

Irrespective of who it is you're talking to, or what you get your panties in a wad about...

you don't get to call them bad names

and you don't get to jack with the censors.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:16 AM
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Opinions are one thing but stating fact, well you're supposed to back up facts you state.

"In my opinion, the Moon has an atmosphere."

"The Moon has an atmosphere."

There's a difference.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:18 AM
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taibunsu

Exactly. And that is ALL Skepticoverlord spoke to. He never once told johnlear he couldn't continue to voice his opinion. He merely requested that the opinion be stated as so from now on.

I would think at least a couple of people need to be offering apologies for twisting his words to the extent they did.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:27 AM
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Sigh.I don't know what to say,other than I agree with skip.I didn't take it as John was trying to force what he was saying as the gospel truth,only that he was passing on the info that had been submitted to him.I think he is one of the most entertaining and interesting characters we have on this board,whether I agree with what he says or not.I wish he could just share his insights without being attacked and ran off,but I guess he needs to say,"In my humble opinion" prior to each and every statement he makes in order to be able to talk at all.It's a little frustrating to me that the guy is treated so harshly when he was being so patient and attempting to the best of his abilities to try and share what he had learned to everyones questions...Oh well.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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Nothing has happened here, SO hasnt did anything worth talking about. He asked of JL, no more than he would ask of any member here.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by 11thdimension
attempting to the best of his abilities to try and share what he had learned to everyones questions...Oh well.


I was personally in total agreement with you right up until that last statement. What exactly has John "learned" about the following?

1. tower on the moon?
2. soul zapping?
3. ET soul harvesting?

What has he "learned" about those things? This is the point of the disagreement at this time. He has "learned" nothing. He has "speculated" much. IMHO isn't required, but a qualifier is expected.

i.e. I believe, I think, I speculate...it's my opinion. NOT a concrete statement made as fact.

I do not want to see anyone mistreated because of their opinions/beliefs either, but be clear that most of what John speaks of in this thread is based on nothing he has been "made privy to".



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
Opinions are one thing but stating fact, well you're supposed to back up facts you state.

"In my opinion, the Moon has an atmosphere."

"The Moon has an atmosphere."

There's a difference.


He simply stated what he knew from the evidence, things later cited but apparently unacknowledged. One should not always have to present things in a certain order, but the cart although in front of the horse had more impetus than only opinion. He stated his conclusion prior to the supportive text.

Not everyone is conversant with what John has published, so it is not entirely unreasonable to ask that he "spoon feed us," if you will. That appears to be the demand that one would ask of a total stranger. If there is a problem it is the shorthand problem, within a certain rapport that is not necessarily here for his "opinions," which are well documented elsewhere and supported by observations. I say this forum has probably thrown out the baby with the bathwater on this Q&A post.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:43 AM
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If we are being "zapped" back and fourth to the moon and possibly reincarnated, couldn't we tap into the souls memories? If our souls are being short circuited or whatever you'd like to call it to suppress a former life, I would think there would be an opposite end of the spectrum. Maybe a way to recall the suppressed memories?


While not espousing the "zapped back and forth to the moon" theory...I can tell you that there is ample evidence of many remembering snippets, even whole portions of past lives. I know this for myself because I remember some of mine (mostly just the moment of death in each life).

However there are far more remarkable cases. The most amazing one I ever saw was on an episode of Sightings. An American woman remembered her entire life in England. She went there, found the house (had burnt down), talked with "her children" of that life, and described how the house was laid out in immense detail, described life events, etc. There simply is NO other explaination for her to know these things, and all of the children have accepted her as family, and their reincarnated mom.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok



However there are far more remarkable cases. The most amazing one I ever saw was on an episode of Sightings. An American woman remembered her entire life in England. She went there, found the house (had burnt down), talked with "her children" of that life, and described how the house was laid out in immense detail, described life events, etc. There simply is NO other explaination for her to know these things, and all of the children have accepted her as family, and their reincarnated mom.



Do you have more on this? I'd like to read about that one.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear
There are plenty of pictures (the same one LOIII-84M) on the web. What is the problem here. It has been on the web for many years.


LOIII-84M is the tower on the moon. I have searched the internet looking for this image with no luck. I'm wondering if anyone else here has had better luck?



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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Well what else is new? I don't blame John for not wanting to participate in this so called Q&A thread any longer, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I think you are all going to miss some valuable information from John. I have followed John for years and will continue to do so elsewhere on this subject.

Not to make this personal but in the past I have posted in detail about my UFO sightings and of course was attacked and asked stupid questions, called a liar, asked to prove it so I no longer want to play the game.

Shirley


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[edit on 17-9-2004 by Aquarius1]



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by kinglizard

Originally posted by johnlear
There are plenty of pictures (the same one LOIII-84M) on the web. What is the problem here. It has been on the web for many years.


LOIII-84M is the tower on the moon. I have searched the internet looking for this image with no luck. I'm wondering if anyone else here has had better luck?


Comment:

Google found this URL:

www.lunaranomalies.com...

I am not certain this would answer your question, but it contains the only link found there. You may try other search engines.


SMR

posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 01:06 PM
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There are images HERE as well as info.
I guess all I can say is thank you to John for taking time to join us in this topic.He didnt have to knowing (IMO) that it would be questioned.Brave really as most people would just be laughed at.
Thanks again John.


EDIT
A few more links with info and images.
TOWER
SHARD
GOOGLE SEARCH LO-III-84M

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posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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John, thank you for your time. Although I can't say I feel like I'm much closer to the truth, it was an interesting discussion, since you made some interesting points. The story about the huge antenna/soulcatcher on the moon however wasn't new. I came across it a couple of months ago while surfing the web (possibly on para-normal.com) and I recall having seen 2 fairly high detailed images of it, though I can't remember if I also downloaded the images to my harddrive. I'll search for it the 25th or 26th when I get back from my holidays. If I'll find them I'll place 'em right here.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Do you have more on this? I'd like to read about that one.


I actually saw the episode. Might have been Unexplained Mysteries, or one of those other shows as well. It was damned eerie. Since I can't seem to find a link, and don't have time to go through the episode guides, here's a brief synopsis.

The woman is about in her 50's. She lives in America with her husband, has her own children, etc. Can't remember what triggered it, but she had an urge to go to England due to strange dreams seeming more like memories. She did so, and found the exact spot of her dreams (now a burnt down foundation and some sticks....) She walked around, and remembered the house, how it was laid out, everything. She then contacted the "children" she had in that life after remembering names, etc. On the show, they brought them there to the ruined home. Each was pretty old themselves (older than she) (as of course, it was years and years ago.....when she was their mother). She recalled exactly what room was what (even though this was like turn of the century old, so no records), whose room was whom's, recalled exact events, mannerisms, hobbies, etc. Enough so, that the "kids" had NO difficulty believing the impossible....that this was indeed their mother, reincarnated. She'd remember what they had hanging on their walls, that one of the kids (and which one) would sit on the dock at a certain time of day and fish, etc. All kinds of things that would have been impossible to discover any other way.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 07:41 PM
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Sorry to see John leave this thread but I understand why and I don't blame him. I don't agree with everything John says but he has the right to share. This is why I lurk most of the time and enjoy reading....I simply don't like to post much cause I know you may get tarred and feathered.

Anyway, here is a link to an interesting story from ABC news.com about reincarnation. I think you all might find it quite interesting.

Reincarnation---6 year old boy




posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 05:30 AM
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BAD MODERATION!!!!



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 07:24 AM
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Partykid, would you rather we just not challenge anyone? Accepting whatever random stories people would like to make up and tell us?



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