Q&A Session with John Lear

Originally posted by John Nada

Originally posted by johnlear
Partykid is dead on correct. I don't know the secret. All I have are clues.

what have your clues lead you to believe. I've never really heard of you either, so I'm sitting on the fence as far as having an opinion on everything I've read so far.

The problem is I don't really know what your theory is. What's the experiment for? If there's a beginning and an end then there must be a reason to conduct it, what is the agenda? I would also like to hear alot more about how all this relates to religion. I know you don't have all the answers but as you've said you have 'clues', so I'd like to know what they've lead you to believe, as you said most of us wouldn't be able to ever believe it.

You may have gone into this before on other threads or other sites, but I am also extremely lazy.

Thanks for you time.

I guess I'm going to have to write something up with all my ideas. My problem is I just don't have time. Being retired from the airlines I am now babysitting my grandson ( he's 3) when he's not in pre-school and cleaning
house and doing dishes while my wife is at work. I do try to answer questions immediately when they can be answered in a page or less. But a summary of what I have learned in the past 20 years would take a little more than that. I have not written any book and I do not have a website so that:
no.1 People can't say I'm in it for the money.
no.2 I can change my mind
Up to now, most of the people I have talked to on the net have heard me on Art Bell and generally know what my ideas are.
I guess I could narrow it down to: earth is an alien farm. They farm our souls. Our souls zap back and forth from the earth as we are born and die to the 6 mile high tower on the moon in the Sinus Medii. They pick us up and take us to underground labs on the moon at age 3, 7 and 13 for checkups and only rarely thereafter. They created our religions and attendant miracles to make us believe in a God so that they have some sort of control over us. All the myths of "evolving into higher forms of life", "being Gods ourselves", "Free will", all that is just bs. What the farm intends to do with the souls or what they are trying to accomplish I haven't the slightest idea. Neither does the government, they are being fed a line too, The government has agreed to help keep 'the secret' in return for really cool, highly advanced technology. The government really believes that they can buy out at any time. In reality we have no more to say than ants banging on the glass of an little toy ant farm screaming (in ant language) "We have a right to know whats going on." Not only can't we hear them, we pick up the farm and give it a shake every now and then, just to keep them busy. There are one or 2 ants that go around saying how benevelent we are. There are also 1 or 2 ants that think we eat them...I guess that comes from the chocolate covered ant candy that used to be the rage. Truth is, we rarely have time to even think about the ants.

I'm more curious about your take on his comments about reverse-engineering major discoveries from UFO parts, and feeding them through the private scientific circuits, so as to appear of our own make? (only actual question in this post)


I think it happened but it happened much earlier than 1960. Bell Labs engineered the transister, I believe in the late 40's or early 50's. Velco supposedly was developed from the space suits. Probably we got a lot of other stuff from them which we will never know about.

hmmm...if they farm our souls then what exactly are souls? If they are farming them then are they worth something to them? Do they have souls? In fact, do they believe in God? Any ideas? lol, thanks john I'm starting from the ground up here...

THE TOWER
The Tower represents an enigma of the highest magnitude, because it rises more than five miles above the surface of the Moon, and has been photographed from five different angles and two different altitudes (from 30 miles altitude, and from 70 miles altitude at three different distances). In all four photographs the same structure is visible, and can be viewed from two different sides. The Tower exists in front of and to the left of the Shard in the Lunar Orbiter III-84M photograph. The distance from the Tower and the camera is estimated at about 200 miles, while the distance of the Shard beyond the Tower is estimated at about 230 miles. The top of the Tower has a very ordered cubic geometry, and appears to be composed of regular cubes (similar in size) joined together to form a very large cube with an estimated width of over one mile! There is apparent damage to the outline and surface of this megacube, because many cubic spaces or indentations occur over its surface (these spaces are 50-60 times larger than pixel size, and their shapes are not controlled by the rectangular shape of the pixel). A narrow columnar structure connects this cube with the surface of the Moon. The columnar support is at least three miles tall, and tapers towards its base. The taper may be in part due to perspective, if the Tower is oriented at an angle and is leaning towards the camera. The leaning Tower may be part of a larger more transparent structure, which is also inclined.

Surrounding the Tower are faint indications of additional light-reflective material. The amount of light coming from this material is very small compared with the amount of light reflected off the lunar surface. In order to make it visible, the surface of the Moon has to be over-exposed on the photograph. The pattern that becomes visible above the Moon's surface is not caused by the scan lines that make up the Lunar Orbiter photography. The scan lines can be seen clearly, and are oriented at different angles from the orientation of patterns in the sky. The regular cubic and/or rectangular nature of this pattern, and indications of radiating structures that connect the Tower with the surface indicate that material of low light reflectivity exists above the Moon's surface over a large area measured in hundreds of miles. The irregular splotchy reflection from some of this aerial material may be due to meteorite and projectile damage over millions of years. Its highly transparent nature (bright stars can be seen behind and through this material) indicates either an open grid with cubic spaces or glass-like material held together by some sort of structural grid or a combination of both. Other photographs described below confirm the size and extent of this grid-like construction.

www.quiknet.com...

Have you actually seen this tower on a picture? This sure is a very unbelievable story.

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Olafski]

Congradulations John on being featured on Above Top Secret and congradulations also goes to Partykid.

Your friend Shirley

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Aquarius1]

Originally posted by johnlear earth is an alien farm. They farm our souls. Our souls zap back and forth from the earth as we are born and die to the 6 mile high tower on the moon in the Sinus Medii. They pick us up and take us to underground labs on the moon at age 3, 7 and 13 for checkups and only rarely thereafter. They created our religions and attendant miracles to make us believe in a God so that they have some sort of control over us.

Imagine my surprise. So who came up with this? You or Lazar? And again, what was Lazar like before he started working at Area 51?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by johnlear
earth is an alien farm. They farm our souls. Our souls zap back and forth from the earth as we are born and die to the 6 mile high tower on the moon in the Sinus Medii. They pick us up and take us to underground labs on the moon at age 3, 7 and 13 for checkups and only rarely thereafter. They created our religions and attendant miracles to make us believe in a God so that they have some sort of control over us.

Imagine my surprise.

So who came up with this? You or Lazar?

And again, what was Lazar like before he started working at Area 51?

So who came up with this? You or Lazar?


I came up with this. Lazar thinks it is the biggest load of c**p he ever heard.

Lazar had many interests. For one thing he produced and filmed the first music video every shown on MTV called, "Video Killed the Radio Star". That video, with his name on it is shown every New Year's Eve at the stroke of midnight.

Originally posted by johnlear
So who came up with this? You or Lazar?

I came up with this. Lazar thinks it is the biggest load of c**p he ever heard.

John, how exactly did you come up with this?

And some of these you may have answered:

1) Why would (or do) the ETs need our souls?
2) Do we live on consciously inside the "tower" after death?
3) How does the mythological figure of Satan relate to the "yellow book" if at all?
4) Are the ET soul-farmers of the "grey" type?

Originally posted by johnlear For one thing he produced and filmed the first music video every shown on MTV called, "Video Killed the Radio Star".

I thought that was Andrew Lazar. In any event, I was talking about during the time you knew him, not before that. Any comments?

quote: Originally posted by johnlear
No, he said, they can hook up a phone to a gravity wave (gravity is instantaneous throughout the universe not the 1.03 speed of light you have been fed) and have instant communication.

Interesting.

But gravity weakens over a distance... and gravity doesn't have "wavelengths" so how does one distinguish the "gravity wave phone" from the gravity of a planet?

The interesting thing about this is that current experiments by physicists like Eugene Podkletnov and Robert Baker jr., have shown that gravity may very well propogate at an instantenous speed, with no or very little decrease of energy over distance. This would mean a number of things, but I will leave that up to you to decide what they are.

Hello John,

Thank you for all your information. I have some video of Area 51 that was filmed in 1992 that was featured on Unsolved Mysteries. What we saw that day sounds very much like the test flight you saw on March 21,1989 with Bob Lazar. Very intense, pulsating light, similar shape,etc. We had been told that they were testing something every Wednesday at dusk. The footage shot Wednesday at dusk and the footage shot early Thursday morning seemed to be the exact same test pattern.

Do you think that this is the same saucer that you saw? Being that it was three years later. Or could they be testing something else?

p.s. I would like to post the footage if someone could kindly help me.

John:

Thanks for posting answers - I'm sure your time is very valuable. To add to this, I was wondering if you could please answer the following two questions that relate directly to your theory:

1) If our souls are "beamed" to the moon upon death, what explains ghosts or entities? I have personally experienced many ghosts/entities and I know they exist. If your antenna theory is true, wouldn't all souls pass to the antenna upon death?

2) Also, what would happen if a human travelled many light years from Earch and the Moon and died? If we were too far from the moon antenna to be beamed there, where would our sould go then? To the "proper place"...wherever that is?

TIA for your answers.

Munro_DreadGod:

There are many stories about the "dark side" of the moon - even what's inside it...and yes, there are even "doctored" images from NASA of the moon hiding "whatever"...

An interesting book to read is "Alternative 3" - it talks about the dark side of the moon, disappearing scientists, the US, the Russians and lots of other "stuff".

In a number of countries the book is banned, however here is a good link for you so you can read it:

www.anomalous-images.com...

Some say the book is fiction but many parts of the book can be backed up by proof.

Here is some links re what the apollo mission saw:

www.google.com.au...

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Originally posted by John Nada
hmmm...if they farm our souls then what exactly are souls? If they are farming them then are they worth something to them? Do they have souls? In fact, do they believe in God? Any ideas? lol, thanks john I'm starting from the ground up here...

Souls are recorders of life experiences. Somehow they manage to short circuit any previous life pexperiences so we can't take advantage of our previous mistakes.

Apparently they are of incredibly value but I have no direct evidence of that.

Do they have souls? I don't know.

As far whether or not they believe in God I have mentioned this story many, many times before. In Communion Whitley is describing his abduction and the horror of these insect like giant bugs with almond shaped eyes piercing into his soul and he is screaming, "God, oh God help me, please God, help me." The aliens say to Whitley, "Why do you call for your gods? There is no one here but us."

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Have you actually seen this tower on a picture? This sure is a very unbelievable story.

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Olafski]

Yes, I have several pictures of the tower all taken from Earth-Mars Connection (Hoagland) VHS. I would give anything for an 8x10 or 15x20 but I can't get Hoagland to send me one. I ordered an LO III-84M but naturally its airbrushed out.

Originally posted by lacan

Originally posted by johnlear
So who came up with this? You or Lazar?

I came up with this. Lazar thinks it is the biggest load of c**p he ever heard.

John, how exactly did you come up with this?

And some of these you may have answered:

1) Why would (or do) the ETs need our souls?
2) Do we live on consciously inside the "tower" after death?
3) How does the mythological figure of Satan relate to the "yellow book" if at all?
4) Are the ET soul-farmers of the "grey" type?

How did I come upwith this theory? Reading and listening for about 20 years on the subject.

1. I have no idea why they farm our souls.
2. No. We have no memory of the tower. After we die we get to
meet all our loved ones for a brief moment then its 'lights out'
until we are slipping and sliding down the birth canal and its "here we go
again all over again."
3. Never heard Satan mentioned.
4. Please see a few posts previous to this, yes they are the small greys from
ZR2.

John,

At this point I have to point out, just because I can no longer bite my tongue:

1. you have no evidence of the 115 experience (sample stolen, no video)
2. you have no evidence of the tower (Hoagland won't give you a copy)

I'm wondering...do you have any experience whatsoever that you actually have something other than your own account? And more times than not your account is contested by others in the same field.

It's just great that you have the freedom to, say, put words in astronaut's mouths and twist them to suit a theory that there is a "soul tower" on the moon, but at some point, we will require some evidence of all your statements. You do realize that don't you?

Originally posted by Jarhead
Hello John,

Thank you for all your information. I have some video of Area 51 that was filmed in 1992 that was featured on Unsolved Mysteries. What we saw that day sounds very much like the test flight you saw on March 21,1989 with Bob Lazar. Very intense, pulsating light, similar shape,etc. We had been told that they were testing something every Wednesday at dusk. The footage shot Wednesday at dusk and the footage shot early Thursday morning seemed to be the exact same test pattern.

Do you think that this is the same saucer that you saw? Being that it was three years later. Or could they be testing something else?

Ip.s. I would like to post the footage if someone could kindly help me.

Its possible, I would have no way of knowing.

Originally posted by jumpspace
John:

Thanks for posting answers - I'm sure your time is very valuable. To add to this, I was wondering if you could please answer the following two questions that relate directly to your theory:

1) If our souls are "beamed" to the moon upon death, what explains ghosts or entities? I have personally experienced many ghosts/entities and I know they exist. If your antenna theory is true, wouldn't all souls pass to the antenna upon death?

2) Also, what would happen if a human travelled many light years from Earch and the Moon and died? If we were too far from the moon antenna to be beamed there, where would our sould go then? To the "proper place"...wherever that is?

TIA for your answers.

1. If for some reason such as an unplanned death (everything is planned) and the soul doesn't make it to the receiver it ends up a little bundle of energy manifesting itself is occasional visual images, sounds etc. Apparently souls are not recoverable from drownings which is why Drowned sailors are referred to as 'lost souls'. or 'lost souls of the deep'. If there is a disaster such as 911 and the antenna gets overloaded they can send emergency soul suckers from outer space (yeah, yeah, I know) to get the overload. There is a 3 or 4 frame video of this on fantasticforum.com posted by gormworm taken by Gamma News service and shows large thin rectangular objects flying over the WTC just after impact.

2. This is a farm. It has a fence. Nobody is going anywhere.

Originally posted by Valhall
John,

At this point I have to point out, just because I can no longer bite my tongue:

1. you have no evidence of the 115 experience (sample stolen, no video)
2. you have no evidence of the tower (Hoagland won't give you a copy)

I'm wondering...do you have any experience whatsoever that you actually have something other than your own account? And more times than not your account is contested by others in the same field.

It's just great that you have the freedom to, say, put words in astronaut's mouths and twist them to suit a theory that there is a "soul tower" on the moon, but at some point, we will require some evidence of all your statements. You do realize that don't you?

1. The video is still around...I don't have it.
2. There is ample evidence of the tower, many photos. I just don't have a good one where you can make out the damaged cube.

I don't know of any astronaut that mentioned a 5 or 6 mile high tower even with a twisted mouth.

John, do you have access to a scanner?