Q&A Session with John Lear

Your insinuation has been, in past comments made in various places on the internet, that the astronauts saw things that "they couldn't explain" and you used that comment in connection with your theory. With that said, my comment stands as far as exploiting the astronauts.

So you do not have a picture of the huge tower?

Also, though there may be pictures of towers you can't get your hands on, and 115 samples that have been stolen, and videos of various events which are unobtainable, what is your proof behind the various widely-spun speculations you state concerning what happens with our souls? Do you have any evidence to back your theories concerning our "soul destinies"?

but at some point, we will require some evidence of all your statements. You do realize that don't you?



Oops, just noted that you were editor in chief. If you require evidence of all my statements there has been a gigantic misunderstanding here. No I didn't realize that. I thought I was invited by partykid to discuss my ideas. But proof? You must be joking...this is the biggest secret of all time.

Alright, I'm going to open my mind to this notion and ask a question:

Would we actually experience anything on the farm? Or are we totally oblivious to the fact we are in a farm while it is happening?

Hello John,
I was wondering after reading this entire thread,
do you follow any religion ? Do you believe in any God?
Maybe we are an experiment, but who do you think made the aliens ?
It all had to start somewhere,don't you think.

Originally posted by Valhall
Your insinuation has been, in past comments made in various places on the internet, that the astronauts saw things that "they couldn't explain" and you used that comment in connection with your theory. With that said, my comment stands as far as exploiting the astronauts.

So you do not have a picture of the huge tower?

Also, though there may be pictures of towers you can't get your hands on, and 115 samples that have been stolen, and videos of various events which are unobtainable, what is your proof behind the various widely-spun speculations you state concerning what happens with our souls? Do you have any evidence to back your theories concerning our "soul destinies"?

I can't ever remember referring to an astronaut or astronauts who saw something they couldn't explain. Most of them saw flying saucers which was very easy to explain. Please give a time and date or page number. And just to clarify the matter I have never used any astronaut to back up anything I have said.

I don't know how many times I have to say this. I have a picture of the tower. If I had a scanner I would send it to you. There are plenty of pictures (the same one LOIII-84M) on the web. What is the problem here. It has been on the web for many years.

Proof? No, nobody has any proof of all this. Its a secret. Get it?

[edit on 16-9-2004 by johnlear]

Originally posted by johnlear this is the biggest secret of all time.

Or just another fiction. Anyway... Interesting that Bob Lazar worked with the Buggles in England while getting married in California... but we could come back to that later. My question was... what was Bob Lazar like, as you knew him, before he started his stint at Area 51? And then... you've been very public about your "secret", nearly anyone who has been interested in cover-ups has heard of you and your story. Why are you not concerned about being so public about this "biggest" secret.

BTW, you ever considered going into chat? It's a lot more efficient with these types of Q&A discussions.

Originally posted by johnlear
Souls are recorders of life experiences. Somehow they manage to short circuit any previous life pexperiences so we can't take advantage of our previous mistakes.

Something about that confuses me. If they claim to have created us, and they are "farming" us then that would mean they created souls, right? If so how can something that they create be of any value? Also, if they create why would they need to "short circuit" it? They just wouldn't have that trait in place at all...

As I say I'm not firmilar with you theories, so maybe I'm missing something there.

Originally posted by johnlear
but at some point, we will require some evidence of all your statements. You do realize that don't you?

Oops, just noted that you were editor in chief. If you require evidence of all my statements there has been a gigantic misunderstanding here. No I didn't realize that. I thought I was invited by partykid to discuss my ideas. But proof? You must be joking...this is the biggest secret of all time.

And this creates a bit of a problem. See, you can have all the ideas in the world, and none of us will hold those ideas against you. In fact, we'll be more than willing to discuss them with you, if you state them as your opinions, instead of either hyperbole or statements of fact. But what exactly makes your "ideas" merit any audience short of just another person on this planet who has taken the time to speculate?

I have speculations of my own. But what I am asking is for proof of some of the things that you have been stating, in this thread, as fact. And you have been stating them as fact. That's what causes the problems. No one holds your opinions against you...but what can be held against you is when you state your speculations as concrete statements.

EDIT: Inserted dropped quote tag.

[edit on 9-16-2004 by Valhall]

Taken care of.

[edit on 16-9-2004 by intrepid]

Originally posted by johnlear
I don't know how many times I have to say this. I have a picture of the tower. If I had a scanner I would send it to you.

I know you have a digital camera, please take a photo of the image and post it in this forum.

Originally posted by Jamuhn
Alright, I'm going to open my mind to this notion and ask a question:

Would we actually experience anything on the farm? Or are we totally oblivious to the fact we are in a farm while it is happening?

Apparently we have to be totally oblivious that we are on a farm for what ever they have in mind to work/function. That is why it is absolutely, vitally important that UFO's be kept a secret. And that is why there will never, ever be any real disclosure.

Originally posted by Tomorrow
Hello John,
I was wondering after reading this entire thread,
do you follow any religion ? Do you believe in any God?
Maybe we are an experiment, but who do you think made the aliens ?
It all had to start somewhere,don't you think.

Although I was brought up in Christian Science I follow no religion
unless I am in a foxhole. Same answer for God.

I stated in a previous post who made the greys.. Who made the guys
who made the greys I don't know.

Yes it all had to start somewhere....a long time ago...and very far away....

Originally posted by johnlear That is why it is absolutely, vitally important that UFO's be kept a secret.

Well... whatever is being attempting to keep this so, is not working. After all, you're here and being very vocal.

Well I guess this means we will just have to go and destroy their facilities, and this tower of doom on the moon, unless ofcourse it is made out of unobtanium. This story is interesting, and I won't close my mind to it, but it is really turning into a "Dark City" kind of scenario. If they are on the moon, we will get them, and get our souls back in the process!

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Sigma]

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by johnlear
this is the biggest secret of all time.

Or just another fiction.

Anyway...

Interesting that Bob Lazar worked with the Buggles in England while getting married in California... but we could come back to that later.

My question was... what was Bob Lazar like, as you knew him, before he started his stint at Area 51?

And then... you've been very public about your "secret", nearly anyone who has been interested in cover-ups has heard of you and your story. Why are you not concerned about being so public about this "biggest" secret. [/quote


I met Bob in the summer of 1988. He thought UFO's were a ridiculous idea. He said that he had worked at LANL and if there were anything on UFO's he would have known about it. There are many places on the web that relate the rest of the story but in December of that year he finally got up to Area 51. Starting in 1986 until 1999 Bob ran Desert Blast every year, the largest outlaw fireworks show west of the Mississippi.

I am not concerned about talking about the secret in public because first of all nobody is going to believe it and second if anybody did the number would be so infintismally small that it wouldn't make any difference.

For anybody who thought my postings on ATS concerning UFO's, the moon, Souls etc. where fact and that I could back them up with evidence I hereby state that with very few exceptions there is not a shred, not a shred of evidence. Everything I talk about is sheer speculation. When I talk about Bob Lazar and what he saw at S-4 this is what Bob told me. I didn't read it at S-4. When I talk about souls being zapped back and forth from the moon. I did not see one being zapped back and forth, nor can I prove that this is happening. My speculation is that it is happening but thats only my speculation. If you have been inconvenienced by believing that all I have said is fact, please accept my apologies. Any further posts I make are to be considered sheer speculation unless I note otherwise. Thanks. *********

Hey john, there are a bunch of us in the chat. Would you consider discussing your ideas and our own there?

We're in the skull and bones room by the way, there is a button to change rooms in the chat.

[edit on 16-9-2004 by Jamuhn]

Originally posted by johnlear I met Bob in the summer of 1988. He thought UFO's were a ridiculous idea. He said that he had worked at LANL and if there were anything on UFO's he would have known about it. There are many places on the web that relate the rest of the story but in December of that year he finally got up to Area 51. Starting in 1986 until 1999 Bob ran Desert Blast every year, the largest outlaw fireworks show west of the Mississippi.

You're not saying anything that's not available to anyone who would do a quick search on the timeline of Bob Lazar's activities during that time. You still haven't answered the question. I want to know what he was like... your impression and your experiences. That's all. Simple question. Easy too. Thanks.

John,

Interesting last answers you gave.

Whats your thoughts on the Keys of Enoch/The Book of Knowledge (by JJ Hurtak) and the pyramids?

The Keys of Enoch is an interesting book in that is explains how we are created, souls, pyramids and quite a few other things...

TIA