Herman Cain Accused of Inappropriate Sexual Behavior: Two Women Receive Financial Settlements

reply to post by jjkenobi


I realize that. Where have I said Cain was guilty? I have not. In fact, I think it's MORE likely that he is innocent of harassment. But we'll see. I'm not making a claim either way yet. I don't understand the hurry . These things take time to come out.

Your story says Cain may not have known about the settlement, but he has already said he did.

Cain campaign considers lawsuit

Herman Cain's presidential campaign said it is considering filing a lawsuit against the news organization Politico, which first reported that two women who worked with him at the National Restaurant Association alleged he sexually harassed them while he headed the group.

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...

Sue for what? Reporting on a story based in fact?

reply to post by Aggie Man


What reporting???

They admitted to not interviewing the women who were harassed.

They admitted to not even knowing what exactly Herman Cain did.

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Woodward and Bernstein are laughing their heads off.

Next time they should try Journalism 101.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by jibeho

 

Cain has already said that he knew about a settlement. It's too late to revise that particular piece of history.

Correct! A settlement. Perhaps a settlement that was reached while he still worked for the association. The one I referred to was never signed by Cain himself. Suggesting that the settlement may have been reached AFTER he left the Restaurant Association. Raising the possibility that he did not know about that particular settlement.

Pardon me for injecting some information on the case.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by whaaa
I think your youtube link is a great representation of Mr. Cain.

They accuse the left of not being able to talk about the issues, like... Where was Cain born? What is his religion? Who are his parents? Can we see his birth certificate? Who does he pal around with? Does he smoke? Is he a Communist?

You know, the important issues like that.

It's too bad they don't tear apart every politician and agency as horrific as they have done to Cain and Palin!

Last time I checked Obama spent over 2 million dollars to his attorney to block anyone from access to his precious birth certificate, I'm sure he's closer to 3 million dollars now Nah, nothing to hide there.

I was hoping for a reply from my last post to you but if you're avoiding the issues, I understand, jk.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by jibeho

 

Cain has already said that he knew about a settlement. It's too late to revise that particular piece of history.

www.cbsnews.com...

Cain has insisted he only knew of one complaint, and says he knew of no legal settlements--only what he calls a severance agreement with one woman. This timeline could well bolster his claims.

Things begin to get very confusing when the msm is on a mission to destroy people.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

A settlement is not an admission of guilt.

I wonder what would be the response from the right if a settlement was made by a demb. candidate in a sexual scandal? I'm thinking utter condemnation!!

The hypocrites would try him in the court of public opinion so fast it would make your head spin.

Cain is finished anyway. The GOP rightwing, Southern Christians, won't allow him to even make it to the primaries. Perry has already been chosen.

But the damage has been done. Impressions are what matter in the world of American politics not facts or truth.
Both sides are masters of mud slinging, innuendo and outright lying.

I find it very amusing to see the RNC trying to cry foul and taking the high ground on Cain after their all out attacks on their opponents, using the very same tactics and strategy

Come on....we're all adults here and know how it works. Schools out.....

reply to post by whaaa


You got it wrong. Obama is finished. Have you noticed all of the polling data
popping up showing Hillary Clinton is much more powerful than weakling Obama
against the GOP???
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Gee....i wonder why?
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Obama is headed towards the golf course January 2012.

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Check the polling data. Herman Cain is still very strong despite the best effort by the MSM
to smear him with a bogus decade year old sexual harassment claim.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by whaaa

 

You got it wrong. Obama is finished. Have you noticed all of the polling data
popping up showing Hillary Clinton is much more powerful than weakling Obama
against the GOP???
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Gee....i wonder why?

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Obama is headed towards the golf course January 2012.

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Check the polling data. Herman Cain is still very strong despite the best effort by the MSM
to smear him with a bogus decade year old sexual harassment claim.

You very well could be correct. Even I as socialist, commie, dirty hippie, "people like you" won't be voting FOR Obama. But I will be voting AGAINST someone, rest assured.

My sources tell me that Perry has already been chosen, the agenda all planned out and the checks in the mail.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

A settlement is not an admission of guilt.

Agreed.

It is an admission by someone, usually of prominance or standing that they would rather trade money for silence than defend the damaging allegations in a public forum.

This philosophy, eagerness to make allegations go away and willing to quitely pay for that silence....and if Cain is to be believed...irregardless of the claims veracity....why would anybody feel comfortable with someone like that becoming the President of the United States?

Geez...this is what he did multiple times to preserve his image when he was Head of the Restuarant Association?

Imagine what will happen when he is President of the United States....and the folks that will come after him will be a lot more powerful and dangerous than some uncomfortable woman that he allegedely propositioned. What will President Cain offer them to go away?

Aside from the veracity of the claims....I personally would be frightened to have him be President

reply to post by whaaa


It will never happen. Rick Perry is toast.

He totally blew it in the debates.
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His line about the GOP not having a heart if they don't give free money to illegal aliens
sank him to the bottom of the ocean.

The recent speech looked like Rick Perry was drunk.

Perry is a bleeding heart liberal masquerading as a republican.

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by jjkenobi
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

A settlement is not an admission of guilt.

I wonder what would be the response from the right if a settlement was made by a demb. candidate in a sexual scandal? I'm thinking utter condemnation!!

The hypocrites would try him in the court of public opinion so fast it would make your head spin.

Cain is finished anyway. The GOP rightwing, Southern Christians, won't allow him to even make it to the primaries. Perry has already been chosen.

The "right" use to whine a little until the left gave them a pacifier to nurse on. That kept them quiet and half asleep most of the time.
The modern right and left aren't what they use to be anymore.
I say that to say it's the reason congress is in grid-lock until the elections.
The right is now awake and some have gotten off of their fat rears and are standing firm to what they believe is best for the country.

Currently the right are standing firm but presenting the issues very poorly to the public. The left are certainly using word play to their advantage via the media but they're also acting like spoiled asses because they can't contain their emotions.
The people who could care less about "right/left" are truly sick of the media, the yelling, the division, the false labels, the "they're stupid" and the destruction of property and freedoms.
This is why Cain is polling high, it's why people are pouring money into his campaign. (noooo, not just the " angry rich Republicans" sigh)

Emotions, fear and intimidation are having a minimal effect on the people nowadays. This is why the left will fail during the elections.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by whaaa

 

It will never happen. Rick Perry is toast.

He totally blew it in the debates.

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His line about the GOP not having a heart if they don't give free money to illegal aliens
sank him to the bottom of the ocean.

The recent speech looked like Rick Perry was drunk.

Perry is a bleeding heart liberal masquerading as a republican.

Perhaps, but all that was just theater for TV to get the electorate all buzzed for 2012. In the coming months Perry will be all slicked up, and primed with talking points and snappy one liners; More theater, more BS, more pandering, flag waving and patriotic songs from Toby Kieth and Hank jr...you know the drill by now I'm sure.

Nothing will change even if by some miracle, Cain or Dr. Paul gets elected/selected. The Corporate Oligarchy Kleptocracy will always be in control manipulating the politicians and the proletariat as well.

It's a fun diversion every four years and a chance for me to make a few bucks as a media guy for whom ever needs my services. A welcome change from shooting hiphop music videos and commercials for Doritos.

I hope I can snag a deal with the democrats; the women are much prettier, slimmer and have a better sense of humor than the GOP gals....

Originally posted by sweetliberty

Cain has insisted he only knew of one complaint, and says he knew of no legal settlements--only what he calls a severance agreement with one woman. This timeline could well bolster his claims.

Things begin to get very confusing when the msm is on a mission to destroy people.

But later that same day,

Cain Remembers Settlement, but calls it a "Severance"

He added he did not recall the amount of the financial settlement, only that it was not large enough to warrant coming to his desk.

And he is caught in another lie...

"They then went and reviewed the formal charge, worked on the situation for several months, and came back and said, it's baseless. No facts, baseless," Cain said.
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"It started out where she wanted a lot of money. I don't even remember what that amount was. But because it was baseless and it was shown that it was not true, she ended up leaving with several months severance, which would have been what she would have left with if we had involuntarily dismissed her," he said. "I don't know if it was three months, whether it was two months, it might have been six months. I don't think it was because of the way it was settled."

The NRA Statement says there was no liability found on either side. That isn't the same as her claims being baseless.

So, it's basically "he said, she said". I can live with that. I wasn't going to vote for him anyway.

Originally posted by sweetliberty

Currently the right are standing firm but presenting the issues very poorly to the public.

Yes, because the folks that turned "Healthcare" into "Death Panels" is so hamfisted when it comes to spinning things....

It is not thier failure to communicate their stance that is troubling them, it is that their stance has become so far right that it can't be spun any longer.

Originally posted by sweetliberty
The left are certainly using word play to their advantage via the media but they're also acting like spoiled asses because they can't contain their emotions.

Agree with you there.

Originally posted by sweetliberty
The people who could care less about "right/left" are truly sick of the media, the yelling, the division, the false labels, the "they're stupid" and the destruction of property and freedoms.

I think most people are just desperately trying to eek out a living...and the right is calling them lazy...while the left is trying to preserve a "safety net" for them...all the while, they just want an opportunity to succeed...and that drifts farther away. Americans don't want to be on welfare...Americans sure as crap are not Lazy...how about simple opportunity? And a fair playing field.

Originally posted by sweetliberty
This is why Cain is polling high, it's why people are pouring money into his campaign. (noooo, not just the " angry rich Republicans" sigh)

The only way Cain is getting support from this is from the "Vote for the worst" crowd, like the group that used to mess with American Idol out of spite.

The race is between the Koch Brothers - Perry and the establsihment GOP/Rove crowd - Romney.

This scandal is just a mild swat at Cain, and pretty soon he will either drop out or some serious skeletons will emerge... Rove and the Koch Brothers don't play nice.

August 2012 is when the GOP announces their nominations for President and VP....more to come over the next year. The real fireworks will start when Romney and Perry go head-to-head. On one side old school dirty politics Rove and on the other Big Money Koch brothers and the Kochtopus!!!

President Obama can ride the slow recovery with his fingers crossed while those two tear eachother to shreds.

2012....It will be interesting.

Cain accuser,

will not reveal her identity because "she and her husband see no value in revisiting this matter now nor in discussing the matter any further publicly or privately."

www.news4jax.com...

This is interesting....Alledgedly it was Rick Perry's campaign that handed Cain this scandal..

And Rick Perry is close, has met several times recently with, and has recieved steady funding and backing from the Koch Brothers.

It turns out that Cain got money from them too...last year, not lately But it was the source of an investigation since the funds did not arrive in his coffers in a completely legal way.

How does Cain respond?

Cain: 'I'm very proud to know the Koch brothers'

Herman Cain enthusiastically embraced the Koch brothers -- saying he is their "brother from another mother" -- just hours after facing a legal complaint challenging his campaign's ties to a Koch brother affiliated non profit.

"Just so I can clarify this for the media, this may be a breaking news announcement for the media: I am the Koch brothers' brother from another mother," Cain said during a speech at the Americans for Prosperity gathering in Washington, D.C. "Yes. I'm their brother from another mother! And proud of it!"

firstread.msnbc.msn.com...

I guess when the Koch funded candidate (Perry) is comming at you fast and hard, you no longer have the luxury of waiting until you are elected to kiss their ass.

Seriously, is this a race to see who can whore themselves out the most?

You posted this...

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic reply to post by jibeho

 

Cain has already said that he knew about a settlement. It's too late to revise that particular piece of history.

Thats why I posted...

Originally posted by sweetliberty

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic reply to post by jibeho

 

Cain has already said that he knew about a settlement. It's too late to revise that particular piece of history.

www.cbsnews.com...

Cain has insisted he only knew of one complaint, and says he knew of no legal settlements--only what he calls a severance agreement with one woman. This timeline could well bolster his claims.

Things begin to get very confusing when the msm is on a mission to destroy people.

Your quote"

It's too late to revise that particular piece of history

" is what I was referring to.
I'm wondering what about it is "to late"?

And he is caught in another lie...

Herman Cain did a very poor job in preparing ahead of time and in answering questions from the press, which is why he isn't as accurate as someone should be who is running for the highest office in the land.
What you might see as a lie, I see as an unprepared speaker who probably doesn't want to deal with it because in his mind, it is baseless, unimportant.
Herman Cain didn't recall that time in his history which is a very big fail on his part and thus, he opened himself up for those who are opposed to call him a lier. I highly doubt he purposely misspoke in order to deceive.

Regardless, I still feel all politicans and agencies should be required to go through "guilty of everything until proven innocent" media as Palin and Cain has done.

I don't think anyone thought you would have voted for him

Originally posted by sweetliberty
Herman Cain did a very poor job in preparing ahead of time and in answering questions from the press, which is why he isn't as accurate as someone should be who is running for the highest office in the land.

Not for nothing, but Politico gave him 10 days for comment before breaking the story

Herman Cain didn't recall that time in his history which is a very big fail on his part and thus, he opened himself up for those who are opposed to call him a lier. I highly doubt he purposely misspoke in order to deceive.

He had prepped his campaign staff on the potential allegations when he ran for the Senate in 2004 and has stated the same. It's hard to believe he did not recall it this time around.

reply to post by Indigo5


I very much enjoyed reading your post, esp the Rove comments

Imo, there is no longer a "middle" ground. Since our Divider-n-chief took office, there is a higher level of anger and grouping. (race, religion, rich/poor, ect)

This group-ing mentality has certainly created a gap that might be too wide for a middle ground. (Well, while obama leads this country with his behind, lol).

Americans are hard workers, yes and most don't want to be on welfare but it's those who are multiple generation welfare families and the (soft) socialists who feel entitled to the government taking care of them.
Full socialism in America won't work as it isn't sustainable in the other countries (long term).
One thing Cain has going for him is his expertise in business, a masters in mathematics and experience in turning failed businesses into successful businesses.