Luciferians control our Reality Matrix by presiding over Scientific Orthodoxy

Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by network dude

 

ok, so you are speaking of the exoteric, or apparent, meaning of God. And you are correct.

But thats not the only meaning--you are free to believe that is what masonic doctrine for who god is, for yourself.

please understand, that some masons believe in the other, more esoteric meaning for god. And it is the god warned about by your interpretation of who you think god is.

which ones? who do they believe in, and how on earth do you know what "some masons" believe?

If you dont know this for yourself, its not as though I can make you understand. Im in a position of knowing. All I can do is point out the inconsistencies of your religion.

I don't believe you. I am in a position of knowing exactly what happens in a lodge. I know what prayers are said, and I know what the ritual eludes to. A person who did not hold a monotheistic belief in God would not enjoy the things we do. They would feel very out of place. I know because I have been a mason for quite a few years.

Originally posted by rainbowbear
...both are opposite of orthodox christian doctrine...

Good. I like being opposite of orthodox Christian doctrine because many of the adherents (like all fundementalists) are some of the most intolerant people I have ever met.

Originally posted by rainbowbear
Im thinking some masons go for A.Pikes work, and some do not.

Obviously.

But to say that there is not Luciferic Ideology contained in Freemasonry is insane.

Then it shouldn't be hard to point out in-context, non-hoaxed specifics.

The profane are reading up on the Lodges, they are using the words of the written teachings of freemasonry, and they deserve credit for seeking knowledge with a skeptical mind

Indeed. However, what we have here is an absolute failure to do so.

--Im confused as to how a man could ignore their own faith in G.A.O.T.U.(the Great Architect of the Universe)

I don't see who's being asked to.

Also, ALL Freemasonry is rooted in Hebaru Mysticism-

Really? Even the GAOTU, lifted wholesale from Calvin?

All Freemasonry is Socialist (or more acuratly--humanist-the idea that man is God) in nature.

Please point out any non-hoaxed, in-context references to any god but God in any regular degree of any regular rite.

All Freemasonry has 2 threads. Operative (exoteric) and Speculative (esoteric).

Wrong. Operative refers to the actual construction of buildings; speculative refers to the metaphorical building of men.

to blatheringly defend your opinion without stating this these claims are true--sounds like an obvious lie, to anyone coming to this board for "truth".

Translation: "If you don't agree with me, you're either stupid or lying."

Originally posted by Getsmart
If only the Pope was a Freemason he could hence Canonize all Freemasons SAINTHOOD for their lovely service to humanity in their cult of Lucifer?

Actually, the Pope can't canonize anybody, at least not unilaterally. Also, the Pope isn't a Freemason.

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You are off topic here as well Rainbow, why don't you start a thread where I can respond to your argument without being off topic myself. In this thread the topic is "Luciferians control our Reality Matrix by presiding over Scientific Orthodoxy", so unless you want to talk about Dr. Moreau and whether or not he is a Luceferian...you are OT.

To Getsmart, I just wanted to make clear that when I said 'I can guarantee you that the Light that is truly pure and truly holy will not be the light of Lucifer' I was not directing that at 'you' but at those deceived into believing that the light that shines is gonna be the light of Lucifer. You probably understood that but I wanted to make that clear nevertheless.

Boy, the masons do come on strong don't they? in a thread having to do with the Luciferian Matrix in which their organization is mentioned? They want to be entitled to push their theosophic beliefs into the mainstream but if a person comes from an anti-masonic perspective in any way shape or form then they want to shut down and twist your opinion and bully you into submission and they know all of the manipulative techniques in the book. That's OK, many people see through it, they are not as smart as they think themselves to be, they often let their true colours shine through without even realizing it. I myself have enjoyed this thread, it has been 'eye opening' and I'm glad you created it.

It's heartwarming to know there are people like you Getsmart who see through the lies and are willing to expose it. Cheers and all the best.

reply to post by Getsmart

Fear is an ugly costume for people to wear.

I'd rather keep my membership and my beliefs than give into meaningless threats, even if they are threats of violence; I've never given into the demands of terrorism nor fascism.

reply to post by batgirl

Yea, I guess you are right. I really don't know why anyone would be opposed to being told they worship the devil.

Hey, I have a great idea! How about you go out in public, and just go up to random people and tell them they are luciferians and see how many times you can do that without getting beat near to death. You could take your little buddy Get smart with you. Good luck!

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by batgirl

 

Yea, I guess you are right. I really don't know why anyone would be opposed to being told they worship the devil.

Hey, I have a great idea! How about you go out in public, and just go up to random people and tell them they are luciferians and see how many times you can do that without getting beat near to death. You could take your little buddy Get smart with you. Good luck!

I'm not a leader and i'm not a follower either,i'm more a loner i suppose,because during my teenage years while most everyone else was getting high and pregnant,i was reading hundreds of non fiction books about everything and i was ridiculed for doing so and was called a walking talking encyclopedia...

The only group i ever belonged to was the boy scouts and i had no choice in the matter because my parents wanted me to join and a year or so later the troop leader was charged with sexual molestation of a child,a boy scout and right there and then,at the age of around 12,i realized that some things are not as they appear...

Now i realize that nothing is as it appears...

Because everything we see,hear,taste,touch and smell is taking place within our brains and nowhere else...

Would satan exist if there were no humans around to "think" and talk about him?...Maybe not...

Would god exist if there were no humans around to "think" and talk about he/she/it?...Maybe not...

Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by batgirl

 

Yea, I guess you are right. I really don't know why anyone would be opposed to being told they worship the devil.

Hey, I have a great idea! How about you go out in public, and just go up to random people and tell them they are luciferians and see how many times you can do that without getting beat near to death. You could take your little buddy Get smart with you. Good luck!

Actually, if I do recall, me, Getsmart and I think even Blocula have been referred to as Luciferians at some point or another on this thread and if I was called one to my face I would have no desire to respond violently in any fashion whatsoever, I actually think I would laugh because it would be ridiculous that I would not take offence to it..

reply to post by batgirl
All anger is self directed,according to the encyclopedia of human psychology that i read...

Anyone can call me anything they want,its not going to get me mad at them...

reply to post by Getsmart


we wear a suit and black tie.

But we do wear costumes in the Scottish Rite degrees. I guess it's OK since we are on STAGE and PUTTING ON A PLAY when that happens. Can you imagine going to see a play and having everyone wearing street cloths? That would be a must miss for me.

reply to post by Getsmart
Are their costumes that you imaged above emulating some bizarre conglomeration of monks,preists, bishops and kings clothing from the middle ages? Or some forgotten cult from the past? Because originality would'nt be the correct term to use while trying to describe them...

Around the age of 12 was when i found out about our boyscouts troop leaders true devious nature...

i was around 10 or 12yrs old when i found out about the masons from my great aunt and great grandmother who said to me while she was an old woman in tears..."Those damn masons are getting everything my sister owns in this world thanks to her husband ben and those damn masons"

And my grandfather who saw combat in ww-2,who told me when i was around 15..."Wars have to be started because theres too many mouths to feed in the world"

My elders long ago showed me the beginnings of the pathway i'm still traveling down...

Originally posted by blocula

Are their costumes that you imaged above emulating some bizarre conglomeration of monks,preists, bishops and kings clothing from the middle ages? Or some forgotten cult from the past? Because originality would'nt be the correct term to use while trying to describe them...

If I am allowed to reply to your question, the image removed by Moderator DontTreadOnMe was one which revealed the garb of one among several sects of Luciferians. Before it is censored a second time, possibly resulting in my being banned from ATS for revealing an Image of a Secret Society in ATS's Secret Society section, you may want to copy its image source and post it elsewhere at ATS and over the Internet since apparently it disturbs them?


Luciferian Garb of the Controllers of the Science Reality Matrix?



I find it very disturbing that those who preside over SCIENCE happen to be so many SUPERSTITIOUS SECT FOLLOWERS venerating an ALIEN ENTITY they call LUCIFER and Conjuring Demons in their RITUALS. It is in fact very alarming that such people have the unmitigated audacity to Rule over Scientific Fields and Preside what is widely promoted as Orthodox Science, which is often purposely deceptive and falsified. They tap and promote the finest minds only to corrupt them and enlist their complicity, using secrecy and career bait, honors and fabricated fame to LIE TO THE PUBLIC and PROMOTE ANTISCIENCE.


Just like there was the mounting suspicion that at this time in history we would be visited by the ANTICHRIST I think that it is safe to say that an ANTISCIENCE has been promoted as a False Religion to convince the deluded masses to BELIEVE IN Their Fairy Tales. Sure, Anti-Gravity cannot exist - the AntiScientists have proven this. Of course Creation cannot have happened the Darwinian AntiScientists have proven that. Obviously Free Energy is a preposterous concept, it has been demonstrated by the AntiScientists.


These LUCIFERIANS have been Presiding over Scientific Orthodoxy to Control our Reality Matrix.


THIS POST IS ENTIRELY ON TOPIC. AS THE OP I INVENTED THE TOPIC AND HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.


GETSMART

Seems like you were guided to not take things at face value, to ask questions and to do your own research. It's good to hear that you have done alot of reading. People tend to not read enough books anymore. Sorry to hear about what you went through as a boy scout, finding the truth about the scout leader must have been really disturbing as a 12 yr old. What your Grandfather said and what happened to your relatives must have made quite an impression that stays with you to this day. I hope you stay on your path, seek and ye shall find.

Originally posted by Getsmart

If I am allowed to reply to your question, the image removed by Moderator DontTreadOnMe was one which revealed the garb of one among several sects of Luciferians...


Luciferian Garb of the Controllers of the Science Reality Matrix?

I find it very disturbing that those who preside over SCIENCE happen to be so many SUPERSTITIOUS SECT FOLLOWERS venerating an ALIEN ENTITY they call LUCIFER and Conjuring Demons in their RITUALS. It is in fact very alarming that such people have the unmitigated audacity to Rule over Scientific Fields and Preside what is widely promoted as Orthodox Science, which is often purposely deceptive and falsified. They tap and promote the finest minds only to corrupt them and enlist their complicity, using secrecy and career bait, honors and fabricated fame to LIE TO THE PUBLIC and PROMOTE ANTISCIENCE.


Just like there was the mounting suspicion that at this time in history we would be visited by the ANTICHRIST I think that it is safe to say that an ANTISCIENCE has been promoted as a False Religion to convince the deluded masses to BELIEVE IN Their Fairy Tales. Sure, Anti-Gravity cannot exist - the AntiScientists have proven this. Of course Creation cannot have happened the Darwinian AntiScientists have proven that. Obviously Free Energy is a preposterous concept, it has been demonstrated by the AntiScientists.

GS, here is something you brought to my attention about Queen Elizabeth I being a part of a certain Satanic sect...


Portrait of Queen Elizabeth I reveals secret snake

It may have represented wisdom, but snakes are also linked to notions of Satan and original sin.

reply to post by someotherguy


Yes, Someotherguy.


Queen Elizabeth the first had numerous pet serpents and even had herself portrayed with this cozy companion. She was a known Luciferian and her descendant Queen Elizabeth II was so named to perpetuate and advance the Luciferian Agenda of the Power Elite. The British Royal Bloodline are known to engage in Satanic Ritual Sacrifice as are the Masons at the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry, who are chosen for their Bloodline ties to the Royal lineages.


This is why SCIENCE is also controlled by the ROYAL LUCIFERIAN RELIGION through various Royal Societies as well as their Royal Bastard spin off ILLUMINATI promote through their Scientific Institutes in the USA and other G5 countries for the most part. This is why we cannot separate the ROYAL LUCIFERIANS from the ILLUMINATI ROYAL BASTARDS from the Top Level of 33rd Degree Freemasonry who CONTROL SCIENCE.


They are a SATANIC RELIGION and they use their dominant social, political and economic position to promote their LUCIFERIAN CULT and force it down the throat of the rest of humanity as the New World Religion. This is why this image bothers them: It reveals them to be a CULT. The CULT OF LUCIFER !


These Satanists use black magick spells to conjure DEMONS which are ultra-dimensional Alien Entities, they are therefore "Conjuring with the Devil" and sell their souls to that ALIEN BEING they call LUCIFER while delivering the masses of the human population to their GODS. This is why they use Science to HIDE FROM US that there are ALIEN FORCES at work in our world, and that other dimensions exist and intervene in our Earthly Affairs.


THE LUCIFERIAN CONSPIRACY USES SCIENCE TO BLIND US - WEAVING A REALITY MATRIX OF LIES !


Many Eminent Scientists and Leading Academics are their accomplices. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE "EMINENT" AND "LEADING", they made their own pact with the Devil. So either they are themselves Satanists, or they are inadvertently co-opted by the offshoot larger implementation brotherhood of Freemasonry.


I have seen in person a top tier Academic at the head of a very American Institution closely related to the US Government making the Satanist Hand Sign with both hands with arms extended, for some twenty minutes without interruption until I put an end to it. Those in attendance, all academics and scientists from many institutions across the USA and from several other countries, seemed to be "fine with it". Didn't they notice this flagrant "Hey, we're all among ourselves here" satanist signal? I personally motioned him with vehemence to at once stop doing this on stage. My gestures destabilized him and he ceased. Ever since he has hidden from me during the ensuing years, pretexting each time "an allergy" whenever I visited.


SATANIST SCIENCE PROMOTES THE LUCIFERIAN RELIGION. THEY DRESS TO PRAY LUCIFER



Their Garb is that of a RELIGION, The Cult of LUCIFER, and they also show reverence to the ROYAL Garb through the use of Crowns and other headgear and similar Royalist Court Clothing. Yes, it is no coincidence that the Satanist Royal Family of the Saxe Gotha Coburg usurping the British Throne are at the head of Freemasonry. No it is not at all unusual that during her visit to California Queen Elizabeth II went to open the ceremonies at Bohemian Grove where people are sacrificed. This is a very sick Luciferian sect which must be STAMPED OUT. And we shall do so.





Join Us !


GS

reply to post by Getsmart

he young Charles Darwin had listened to his grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, since childhood.46 Actually, it was Erasmus Darwin who first proposed the idea of evolution in England. He was known as a physicist, a psychologist and a poet and exercised considerable influence, although he led a dark personal life and had at least two illegitimate children.47 But Erasmus Darwin was one of the most well-known naturalists in England. Naturalism believed that the essence of the universe lay in nature and that it had a creative power. While the roots of this doctrine go back to the naturalist philosophy found in ancient Greek and Sumerian myths, its major proponent by the 19th century was the Masonic organization.

This fact was confirmed in 1884 by Pope Leo XIII, the leader of the Catholic world, in his encyclical Humanum Genus (The Human Race), which was directed particularly at the Masons: At this period, however, the partisans of evil seems to be combining together, and to be struggling with united vehemence, led on or assisted by that strongly organized and widespread association called the Freemasons. No longer making any secret of their purposes, they are now boldly rising up against God Himself.


Erasmus Darwin
The Pope continued to describe the relation between this organization and naturalism:

For, from what we have above most clearly shown, that which is their ultimate purpose forces itself into view – namely, the utter overthrow of that whole religious and political order of the world which the Christian teaching has produced, and the substitution of a new state of things in accordance with their ideas, of which the foundations and laws shall be drawn from mere naturalism. The Masons who adopted naturalism had their greatest representative in Erasmus Darwin, who was one of the masters of the Canongate Kilwinning Masonic lodge in Edinburgh, Scotland.49 Additionally, he seems to have been involved to some degree with the Jacobin clubs in France, or with the Illuminati, which was connected with certain Masonic lodges in France and whose primary duty was to oppose religion.50 Erasmus educated his son Robert Darwin (the father of Charles) to be like himself and made him a member of Masonic lodges.


Robert Darwin
51 Therefore, Charles Darwin inherited Masonry from his father and grandfather.

The main lines of Darwin's theory were, in reality, determined by his grandfather, whose naturalist works were designed as a guide for him. Erasmus Darwin developed the basic logic that was to give form to Darwinism and expounded it in books titled The Temple of Nature and Zoonomia. It was a renewal of the ancient pagan belief that nature has creative power. In 1784 a society was founded to assist in the dissemination of these ideas – The Philosophical Society – which, decades later, would become one of the largest and most passionate supporters of Charles Darwin's ideas.52 Darwin's own theory of evolution, however, was first proposed in the Galapagos Islands.

www.religionofdarwinism.com...

As he got older, especially in his famous, The Descent of Man, Darwin fell in line with much of the racist thinking of his day and even developed an early version the perspective later called “social Darwinism”:


At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes . . . will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.

www.racismreview.com...

“I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of true science. It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and holes as sound parts.”

"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an improved theory, is it then a science or faith?"

“False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for every one takes a salutary pleasure in proving their falseness.”

excelle.monster.com...

So much for pure science. Of course it is not surprising that Darwin was part of an unscientifically based agenda.

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No, the image of the costumes doesn't bother any of the Scottish Rite Masons here. Many Valleys have posted photos and video of the costumes, some of which are antiques. The problem was that your post was in no way tied to your thesis, even now it is only tenuously on-topic.