Sharpie Commercial's " Stop Protesting" Subliminal Caught Redhanded!

Originally posted by spacekc929

Originally posted by daynight42
The great irony here is that you are furthering their message by talking about it. You have advertised their subliminal message over and over again to anyone who reads this. Do you see those words in your title? Reading those or hearing them is all it takes for the message to be conveyed. Sharpie made the commercial. You passed it along for them, as well as crafted it into a forum thread. What does that make you? Accessory to the crime?


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Guys if you want to combat things of this type, you'll have to study their game first!

I think you are wrong about this. The entire point of subliminal messaging is to implant an idea into your subconscious mind without your conscious mind realizing it. By uncovering the issue, your conscious mind realizes the subliminal message is there, defeating the purpose. Consciously saying that advertising companies are telling us to stop protesting is very different from the advertising companies actually subliminally telling us to stop protesting. I am wondering if maybe you are the one who needs to study their game...

And study the game I have, I think many who know me personally would agree that I've spent too much time reading tons of books of many sorts relating to the psychology of influence. Allow me to get to the main question, is it conscious messaging or subconscious? Realize that the conscious mind can only soak in so much information at once. Pay attention, when you see that message "Stop protesting" and "Now" appears on screen, your mind is simultaneously processing what you hear the advertiser speaking, that goes without saying there are many colorful distractions on the screen as well... remember, good ol conscious can only handle so much and this all creates confusion and distraction of the conscious mind, where the subconscious will possibly soak in the subliminal information without many people noticing it. Sharpie knows exactly what they're doing. This is subliminal advertising. Some people just happen to notice, and sure Sharpie made it a little bit on the obvious side... but that changes nothing. I guarantee most people don't realize what they saw on that screen and how it relates to what's going on with the Occupy movement. They might see it, but do they "see" it?

I assure you the answer is most likely not.

Originally posted by CountSymphoniC

Originally posted by spacekc929

Originally posted by daynight42
The great irony here is that you are furthering their message by talking about it. You have advertised their subliminal message over and over again to anyone who reads this. Do you see those words in your title? Reading those or hearing them is all it takes for the message to be conveyed. Sharpie made the commercial. You passed it along for them, as well as crafted it into a forum thread. What does that make you? Accessory to the crime?


[...]
Guys if you want to combat things of this type, you'll have to study their game first!

I think you are wrong about this. The entire point of subliminal messaging is to implant an idea into your subconscious mind without your conscious mind realizing it. By uncovering the issue, your conscious mind realizes the subliminal message is there, defeating the purpose. Consciously saying that advertising companies are telling us to stop protesting is very different from the advertising companies actually subliminally telling us to stop protesting. I am wondering if maybe you are the one who needs to study their game...

And study the game I have, I think many who know me personally would agree that I've spent too much time reading tons of books of many sorts relating to the psychology of influence. Allow me to get to the main question, is it conscious messaging or subconscious? Realize that the conscious mind can only soak in so much information at once. Pay attention, when you see that message "Stop protesting" and "Now" appears on screen, your mind is simultaneously processing what you hear the advertiser speaking, that goes without saying there are many colorful distractions on the screen as well... this all creates confusion and distraction of the conscious mind, where the subconscious will possibly soak in the subliminal information without many people noticing it. Sharpie knows exactly what they're doing. This is subliminal advertising. Some people just happen to notice, and sure Sharpie made it a little bit on the obvious side... but that changes nothing. I guarantee most people don't realize what they saw on that screen and how it relates to what's going on with the Occupy movement. They might see it, but do they "see" it?

I assure you the answer is most likely not.

I totally agree it is subconscious. The person I was replying to was saying we were furthering the message by talking about it, I don't think it is true, because by discussing it we do truly "see" it.

lol wow Sharpie, a protest to stop protesting. Really? that's just stupid...

Sorry! Too Obvious!
(Assuming you are aware of the true nature of gatekeeper/contrived controlled
opposition alex jones!).

So let's see. AJ says
- We have exposed their attempts to get us to stop protesting, but we won't be
co-erced, subliminally or otherwise. We will overcome and keep protesting!

Translation
You are playing into OUR hands with this manner of protest. So Please please KEEP IT UP.
WE really don't want YOU to stop, and think! We have YOU where We want YOU!

Originally posted by spacekc929

Originally posted by CountSymphoniC

Originally posted by spacekc929

Originally posted by daynight42
The great irony here is that you are furthering their message by talking about it. You have advertised their subliminal message over and over again to anyone who reads this. Do you see those words in your title? Reading those or hearing them is all it takes for the message to be conveyed. Sharpie made the commercial. You passed it along for them, as well as crafted it into a forum thread. What does that make you? Accessory to the crime?


[...]
Guys if you want to combat things of this type, you'll have to study their game first!

I think you are wrong about this. The entire point of subliminal messaging is to implant an idea into your subconscious mind without your conscious mind realizing it. By uncovering the issue, your conscious mind realizes the subliminal message is there, defeating the purpose. Consciously saying that advertising companies are telling us to stop protesting is very different from the advertising companies actually subliminally telling us to stop protesting. I am wondering if maybe you are the one who needs to study their game...

And study the game I have, I think many who know me personally would agree that I've spent too much time reading tons of books of many sorts relating to the psychology of influence. Allow me to get to the main question, is it conscious messaging or subconscious? Realize that the conscious mind can only soak in so much information at once. Pay attention, when you see that message "Stop protesting" and "Now" appears on screen, your mind is simultaneously processing what you hear the advertiser speaking, that goes without saying there are many colorful distractions on the screen as well... this all creates confusion and distraction of the conscious mind, where the subconscious will possibly soak in the subliminal information without many people noticing it. Sharpie knows exactly what they're doing. This is subliminal advertising. Some people just happen to notice, and sure Sharpie made it a little bit on the obvious side... but that changes nothing. I guarantee most people don't realize what they saw on that screen and how it relates to what's going on with the Occupy movement. They might see it, but do they "see" it?

I assure you the answer is most likely not.

I totally agree it is subconscious. The person I was replying to was saying we were furthering the message by talking about it, I don't think it is true, because by discussing it we do truly "see" it.

Oh totally. I like many others, tend to skim read... and this doesn't always work in our favor but there are many others on this forum that seem to think Sharpie's efforts are not subliminal. The message I wrote was intended for those people.

Yes, we "see" it, because we are aware, a lot of people on ATS are. Not everyone outside of ATS is though...

I'm not buying it. I agree, it's observable in real time on the commercial. I think it is intended for us to see. It's an attempt at irony. Protesting to stop protests. Not a big deal. There is a lot of subliminal stuff going on, but not this. Also, not the Breaking Bad thing that Alex mentioned either. The guy who had a Ron Paul sticker or whatever was like the nicest most generous geek type that the show has ever had, and the Ron Paul thing was just another bit of his character development, like being a vegan, loving poetry, chemistry, and odd music. Not everything is something.

Part of the problem with Alex Jones, and I guess why I quit following his articles, radio show, etc... He is a bit of a sensationalist. Also, he does a radio show six days a week regarding conspiracies and political corruption, and all the other things that go along with it. When there is not some big thing to report on, he still has to do his show, and he has to come up with some kind of material for it. Maybe that is where it really begins to become compromised.

reply to post by ErtaiNaGia


I actually use several Newell Rubbermaid products on a regular basis.Actually I drop quite a lot of money on their products as do most of my colleagues.I've already sourced alternatives and I'm bringing this to the attention of everyone at work.

Dropping their products won't make any difference to me. Newell Rubermaid's competitors must be laughing their asses off

Originally posted by notquiteright
I'm not buying it. I agree, it's observable in real time on the commercial. I think it is intended for us to see. It's an attempt at irony. Protesting to stop protests. Not a big deal. There is a lot of subliminal stuff going on, but not this.

Are you familiar with pacing and leading? If not I suggest you look it up... it's partially what makes ads, salesmen, politicians so deceptive.

The protest in the commercial protesting to stop protesting... is a pace. It's pacing everyone who's protesting, who has protested and will protest. It's also pacing everyone who's seen the protests through any viewing medium because you're so used to seeing it. The lead is "Stop protesting." It's basically a smooth technique designed to bypass resistance to new ideas. It's what makes the transition from the "beginning to the end" seem like a slick ride down a buttery slide, instead of a painful slip down a harsh rocky hill. I explained earlier that there is audio of the advertiser speaking and all the dazzling colorful displays on the screen as those words show up... all to distract and confuse the conscious mind, this is what makes it more subliminal. No matter how obvious it may seem.

You guys ever think maybe you caught it first time around because you already read and knew what to expect? Not just that, but i would like to think that most of us on this forum are aware of subliminal messages and may even try to find the hidden meaning behind things that perhaps the other millions of people might not even see or think of at all... What about when watching the commercial and you're kind of halfheartedly paying attention and you see the sign out of the corner of your eye and your buddy next to you was like "hey what did that sign say?" and you're like "I don't know, something about Protesting."

reply to post by TsukiLunar


you wont admit it works because you are afraid of things that can control you that you are unaware about. afraid enough denying its existence is the only way to carry on, btw this is all subliminal happening in your sub-conscious mind and you nor i can do anything about it.

All commercial/materialistic adverts and entertainment include different forms of subliminal messaging.

music - isochronic tones and binaural beats. (can be used for positive purposes - however is this the case in mainstream?? who knows)
adverts - fast flashing words unseeable to the eye, images, phrases, story plot (hidden agenda)
music and adverts - hidden whispers inaudible to humans but still influencing the sub-conscious mind

the list can go on and on.

of-course subliminal messaging works, just like when you hear a song for the first time, can't remember its lyrics at the time but hours later you randomly find yourself singing it back to yourself perfectly, the words you heard were stored in your sub-conscious mind, floating information stored but unaware to the conscious mind. This is your sub-conscious taking into affect proving that it can be manipulated if you so wish, just mix those lyrics up with lyrical writing skills, embed a hidden agenda in to the lyrics and voila (yes the instrument lol)


I say dont be afraid buddy, we can fight back.

Peace and God Bless

Your not alone.

reply to post by ThoughtForms


Um this ad was made BEFORE the protests started thus it saying "Stop protesting" has no baring...

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by ThoughtForms

 

Um this ad was made BEFORE the protests started thus it saying "Stop protesting" has no baring...

Please state your source, because some people might otherwise be unable to take you seriously.

Links to this commercial in a youtube video with a date before the protests would work fine.

reply to post by mistermonculous


Check out :25

WTH?

Freaky, weird. Stoked I don't watch/own cable.

Double post

Hey, I'm actually IN that ad!!

I'm the guy at 0:05 holding up the blank placard in the football stadium, and then again at 0:17 saying "Put Me In Coach".

It was shot at the Sydney Football Stadium last year, by Jeff Darling, one of Australia's best cinematographers (he shot the ad on a Canon 5D with a 24-105mm F4 lens, for those interested).

Anyway, I'm here to tell you that the ad in question was put together by a bunch of effervescent bright-young-things whose thoughts were furthest away from mind control of the masses.

The 'Stop Protesting' bit was supposed to be pure irony - i.e. protesting against protesting. A joke. Nothing more.

It was a cool idea that got sliced down to a one-second slot in an ad designed to keep up with the attention spans of those watching today's TV.

Nothing sinister here..

Originally posted by eonpeon
Hey, I'm actually IN that ad!!

I'm the guy at 0:05 holding up the blank placard in the football stadium, and then again at 0:17 saying "Put Me In Coach".

It was shot at the Sydney Football Stadium last year, by Jeff Darling, one of Australia's best cinematographers (he shot the ad on a Canon 5D with a 24-105mm F4 lens, for those interested).

Anyway, I'm here to tell you that the ad in question was put together by a bunch of effervescent bright-young-things whose thoughts were furthest away from mind control of the masses.

The 'Stop Protesting' bit was supposed to be pure irony - i.e. protesting against protesting. A joke. Nothing more.

It was a cool idea that got sliced down to a one-second slot in an ad designed to keep up with the attention spans of those watching today's TV.

Nothing sinister here..

Oh I know, as Chief Advertising Officer of Sharpie, I actually facilitated the production of this advertisement. Of course our intentions weren't sinister, we simply wanted our viewers and customers to associate peace, joy, and happiness with our product. Now a lot of people brand the techniques employed in our advertisements and many other companies' advertisements as "manipulative", but are only focus is on making our advertisements as professional and presentable to the public as possible.

Seriously?

Unless you have a picture of yourself (that isn't seen in that ad) holding a poster saying "ATS, I was in that ad, and here's a picture to make my post more believable." Then we could at least compare your face to the one you claim to be in the ad. Sure for all we know you could be telling the truth, but the odds? Of all the many people out there in the world and we happen to have one of those actors here on ATS? Anyone can say anything, that doesn't mean much in today's world.

Originally posted by CountSymphoniC

Oh I know, as Chief Advertising Officer of Sharpie,

Anyone can say anything, that doesn't mean much in today's world.

as you were saying

Symphonic. Not to be a punk, but if you actually read the posts, you'll see a few pages back that someone else has already screen captured and posted the youtube video with the posted date a page or two or three back. Disregard if you knew this already, and were just trying to entice the guy to provide evidence when making a statement.

*And no, I will not provide a link two pages back. haha

Cognitive dissonance much anyone.

What little (I admit) I know of Subliminal broadcasting this appears to be an excellent example of it. Unfortunately the stage was set and I "was" looking for it and I saw it clears day - Stop protesting (now if I can see it clearly then that doesn't fit but when you guys started pointing out.

Yes

Stop protesting

Now

It got a bit more interesting. Is it intentional who knows but as I understand subliminal messaging it fits like a glove.

Ironic that a product that is probably used for a great deal of the protest signs is suggesting that one should not protest is odd.

But it is entertaining as always to hear right on cue the - its just a coincidence - crowd. Very cool catch.