Sharpie Commercial's " Stop Protesting" Subliminal Caught Redhanded!

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

I agree with everything you said. I am not, in any way, saying that this type of advertizing doesn't happen. I know it does. My only point is that this particular case - Alex Jones claiming that this ad is supposed to discourage OWS protestors - is BUNK.

Couldn't agree with you more on this point.

reply to post by spikey

No mate, your 'bright young things' are either devious dark young controllers, or they too have been fooled into thinking what they are putting out is ironic, light and fun...when in fact it's none of those things.

This guy might have actually been involved in the commercial. But I doubt any of the actors were privy to what went on in the cutting and splicing room, were they?

ETA: If you can find it. There is a commercial about Brinks home security that aired a few years back in the US. It had a husband, wife, and two kids in it. The whole friggin commercial was a subliminal. Brilliantly done. If you get the chance, watch it.

reply to post by Pocky


the commercial is about self expression and when the title is shown stop protesting that is there of making a point about not having self expression....skate boarder in black and white=no self expression, skateboarder in color equals self expression...get it..

How old is this commercial?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe this commercial was originally aired during the Tea Party protests.

A tremendous amount of semantic confusion could have been spared in this thread if people would understand the difference between the words "subliminal" and "propaganda".

True subliminal messaging -- that is to say, encoded messaging which occurs too fast to perceive at all -- has been tried and studied and found to be less effective than normal, commonplace propaganda techniques, where the messaging is displayed in an overt way but has a semi- or sub-conscious overall effect on the mentality of the viewer.

It's not subliminal when a beer company puts ladies in tiny bikinis in their commercials -- it's propaganda. The Sharpie sign is not subliminal -- it's propaganda, which often works in a subtle and insidious way, hence the semantic confusion this thread seems to be generating.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by WarminIndy
The Sharpie no protest commercial actually was made in April 2010. Here is a link to the upload in JULY, two months before the first OWS protest. www.youtube.com...

THANK YOU! Nothing can replace good, old-fashioned research!

Alex Jones is in the BUSINESS to frighten you, people! He's as bad as Glenn Beck. Stop listening to his paranoid rants.

And shall i find you links to ALL of the world protests going on around the world at around the same time frame?

You obviously think one particular advert is good for only one occasion do you?

And you don't think that pre-planned events, which would naturally motivate people to protest a short while into the future have any bearing on the production of mind bending adverts?

In short, you imagine the programmers don't anticipate or plan 6 or 12 moths ahead? That's ultra naivete at best, and deliberately saying the opposite of what you must surely know to be probable at worst.

The adverts are arranged in such a fashion as to cause our minds to enter a receptive and altered state of conciousness, far removed from our critical and analytical awakened concious state. That is obvious to anyone who has researched this mind controlling technique, and should be obvious to you too, having seen the few videos attached to this thread.

I'm more curious at this point as to why you seem to fervently argue the point that the message isn't there, when it clearly is there, in addition it is clearly mixed in with so called 'Illuminati' symbolism of 'the all seeing eye', via the huge reptilian backdrop and has the image of the reptile both above a humans head and devouring another humans head, which is either literal in it's meaning, or is symbolic of controlling our minds, the latter is more probable in my view.

The reptile is overseeing and watching the head of the woman, meaning it is keeping it's eye on her to ensure compliance of thought...the biker lifestyle has always been synonymous with anti-authoritarian thoughts and slightly viewed as rebellious and irreverent, the reptile is consuming the head of the rebellious biker, thus symbolically consuming his mind.

Believe what you are told to believe mate, don't question your masters and see what it gets you.

Frankly, i don't comprehend why you come to this thread, if you imagine all is hunky dory in TV land fine, move along to a thread you do agree with, or better still, AUTHOR YOU OWN THREAD proving that these mind control tactics and techniques are all simply the product of a paranoid bunch of CP's...i'd be interested in seeing your proof that this is a bunch of nuts, making something out of nothing.

I'll keep a look out for your thread, that is if you have the courage and conviction of your stated opinions enough to actually make one.

reply to post by sepermeru


This is only a partial truth though. If ones definition of subliminals is limited to one aspect of the technology, you might have a point. But it is not always the visual that is meant to be below the conscious threshold. It is the underlying message that is below the threshold, and constitutes the subliminal.

So ladies in tiny bikinis in beer commercials is most definitely subliminal. Because the guy sitting on the couch lulled into an altered state because he is focused on the stimuli on the screen isn't thinking about the message being portrayed. He sees sex. Period. The same with the Sharpie commercial. It is the underlying message. Not just the visual.

By the same token, I agree there is overt propaganda used as well. But as Edward Bernays proved. The two can, and frequently do, work hand in hand. As I said before, subliminal technology has progressed far beyond the still frame on a roll of film.

Good post.

Just a really stupid point that I don't *think* anyone has brought up yet ...

Has anyone just thought that they had a protest about not protesting because it was either that or support an existing cause or remind people of something depressing????

It's meant to be a fun, quirky, advert ... The original script probably had something like PEACE or whatever ... but in the advertiser's view the last thing people want to be reminded of is the fact there's people killing each other, and really what cause would they support? I'm open to suggestions, as I'm sure they were, too. This was the best they came up with probably.

I think this is usual Alex Jones grabbing onto anything that can be found and riding away with it into the sunset. The problem with Jones is the person will promote anything and everything that *might* support a point.

Don't assume malice when the stupidity of an executive producer will suffice.

reply to post by Pocky


So when were watching alex jones on a webcast , he is sending us subliminal messages with the flickering of our monitors and inducing us into a mind fog listening to him go on and on. !

He said that it happens so who is to say that he isnt doing it to his viewers!

reply to post by sepermeru


Subliminal is not just about images flashing into our brains faster than we can consciously perceive them, despite the definition of subliminal.

It's also about causing us to think in certain ways using techniques via images and sounds, that we do not consciously recognise as happening at the time.

This doesn't have to be 1/16th of a second, this can be quite a lengthy thing..even a few seconds or more.

If our brains do not make the critical connection, it is unfiltered by our rational concious mind, and goes straight into out uncritical and irrational subconscious mind, where it has an imperceptible but powerful effect on our concious mind. Everyday things like political allegiances and views, opinions on virtually everything that effects the human condition can be and in fact, are regularly being influenced and moulded.

It's the same thing as when you are in a dream. While dreaming, your subconscious mind will offer all sorts of irrational, illogical and bizarre situations and activities into your dream state of mind.

Do you, while dreaming recognise the irrationality of these activities and constructs while you're dreaming?

Even if those irregularities of physics, such as being able to fly unaided, or leap around the world, or walk through solid objects or otherwise have dream weird abilities or actions lasts for hours, instead of fractions of a second?

The answer is no, you don't. We don't think it is strange because we are disconnected from our critical and rational minds while dreaming, and only upon waking or returning control to our concious and critical minds just prior to waking do we feel that it was strange or peculiar.

While we are dreaming, it's all perfectly normal....this is what is being exploited subliminally here. That part of our minds, that doesn't recognise the absurd, or doesn't recognise or is not critical of what is being implanted into our minds, because we are effectively operating with our illogical or uncritical, dream like brain when staring at the TV.

This single instance of the message about not protesting is not an ironic statement, as it is mixed in with fast moving sounds and images, well recognised 'illuminati' symbolism, all designed to access your unconscious mind after you have entered the state of mind similar to when you're asleep and dreaming, to colour your waking mind.

This happens for everything, from getting you to buy certain chocolate bars, to affecting your opinions on world events and politics, historical events, ET's and UFO's (classic one there) and so on and on. Every facet of our lives and what we believe or prefer is included in this programming.

Believe what you like...at least i give you that choice. The programmers don't.

reply to post by sapien82

He may well be doing that to his viewers and his listeners.

I'm not here to prop up Jones..for all i know, he may be as bad as the rest of the controllers or may not be, i don't know one way or the other, but i DO know this programming and manipulation of our minds DOES go on, is widely known to go on (by professionals and psychologists etc), and has a multitude of techniques to persuade us to view issues or people or indeed the entire world a certain way, that is not limited in it's scope to a brief, micro second flash of a message.

It's light bursts, it's tonal pulses, it's a combination of many techniques...the objective is the same though, to direct us and our thoughts and opinions surreptitiously.

Originally posted by Klassified

Originally posted by aivlas
"Stop protesting, Now" being shoved in my face isn't subliminal messaging.

edit on 22-10-2011 by aivlas because: (no reason given)

You perceived it as in your face because your attention was drawn to it, and because you were looking for something. The average person will completely miss it, or pay it no mind. I've studied this stuff for a very long time. It's as real as it gets. The television and cinema is their favored method of delivery. Although other forms are obviously used. And the internet is fast becoming a favorite as well.

That's true I remember watching this commercial a few weeks ago and I was actively engaged in paying attention to the commercial yet I didn't come close to seeing the large "stop protesting" sign.

reply to post by Klassified


Cheers mate, i agree that they most certainly weren't privy to the editing!


I'll have a dig around for the ad you're talking about and have a look.

As a test for you and all others reading this post here's a little experiment.

Read the following line of bold typeface and think what it is saying to you...ok here it is:

U181

Read it to yourself at first, just in your mind, not aloud...then read it aloud and you will then see what it is saying to you. I'll post the answer in 15 minutes if no body gets it before then.

Answers on a post card please, and remember, if you post after the 15 minutes are up, your post will not be counted, but you still may be charged for your post, please get posters permission before placing your post, this may involve a lengthy post, and your home is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on it. Blue and green should never be seen, two in the hand is worth one in the bush, always read the label, side effects can include sudden, and permanent stone cold death. Have a nice day.

No guesses?

Ok, i saw this on a Mazda car advert about 4 years ago (or so) i picked up on it after i'd seen the ad a few times.

The letter and numbers were at the end of the ad, on the car's number plate (licence plate) it reads:

YOU WANT ONE.

Say it out loud U181 a few times, and it is actually 'you want one' but planted in such a way as to bypass our rational thinking centres and go straight to the subconscious instead, where the idea festers and grows, and is brought to the surface of your mind as 'I like that car, i wouldn't mind having that'.

I think we should ask Sharpie what the meaning behind the sign is. I went to their website and found a "contact us" link. Here is the link for anyone else that wants to ask to see if they get a response. If you do get a response, be sure to post it in this thread.

Sharpie "contact us" link.

Originally posted by spikey
You obviously think ...

And you don't think ...

In short, you imagine...

Well, since you know what I think and imagine, I don't really need to post at all, do I?

... it is clearly mixed in with so called 'Illuminati' symbolism of 'the all seeing eye', via the huge reptilian backdrop and has the image of the reptile both above a humans head and devouring another humans head, which is either literal in it's meaning, or is symbolic of controlling our minds, the latter is more probable in my view.

Illuminati Reptilians. Ah, yes! Why didn't I see it? I'm going out to buy some of these markers right NOW!

Frankly, i don't comprehend why you come to this thread, if you imagine all is hunky dory in TV land fine, move along to a thread you do agree with, or better still, AUTHOR YOU OWN THREAD proving that these mind control tactics and techniques are all simply the product of a paranoid bunch of CP's

Where did I say that all is hunky dory in TV land? In fact, your assessment of my opinion is SO screwed up, it's hard to believe you have read even ONE post of mine in this thread... Here, let me refresh your memory:

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm not saying that subliminals don't exist. I have seen them exposed.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I am not, in any way, saying that this type of advertizing doesn't happen. I know it does.

Now, where did I say that these mind control tactics and techniques are all simply the product of a paranoid bunch of CP's. And what is a CP?

I'll keep a look out for your thread, that is if you have the courage and conviction of your stated opinions enough to actually make one.

You show me which "stated opinions" you're talking about and I'll be happy to make a thread about it. I have started over 700 threads here, so I think the courage of my convictions is pretty apparent.

Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by Starwise

 

I have stated my experience quite clearly in this thread. I have researched subliminals and related sciences quite extensively since the 70's. And if you have worked psyops in the military, as have a few others I have known, you know what I've written in this thread hardly scratches the surface of how deep this rabbit hole goes.

I would assume then, you are familiar with s-quad and silent subs, as well as subsurface carrier signals used in broadcasting among others?

I was not replying to you LOL, I was replying to the *other guy*

Originally posted by Vandettas
Say what you want and pretend like its not true.

Ignore it and keep moving on.

Act like what you just saw is irrelevant.

They have you people delusional to a point where literally, in this context, that the messages are right in your face, and you still choose to not care. They've got you so manipulated that they know they can probably get away with just about anything...LIKE THIS COMMERCIAL!

"It's not subliminal because we can see it".....Really?

Yep, just do what everyone else does and don't worry about this crazy stuff.

www.artistmike.com...

Be like everyone else.

Originally posted by sepermeru
A tremendous amount of semantic confusion could have been spared in this thread if people would understand the difference between the words "subliminal" and "propaganda".

True subliminal messaging -- that is to say, encoded messaging which occurs too fast to perceive at all -- has been tried and studied and found to be less effective than normal, commonplace propaganda techniques, where the messaging is displayed in an overt way but has a semi- or sub-conscious overall effect on the mentality of the viewer.

It's not subliminal when a beer company puts ladies in tiny bikinis in their commercials -- it's propaganda. The Sharpie sign is not subliminal -- it's propaganda, which often works in a subtle and insidious way, hence the semantic confusion this thread seems to be generating.

It's still grouped into that "stuff I don't want people trying to forcefully expose to me" category. This is a bit ironic because some would rather be exposed to lies rather than truth.

I think the true purpose behind that commercial is to make a mockery of protests, which has already been pointed out by others. A protest against some established wrong is not pretty and colorful, it is not self expression.

Originally posted by Pinke
It's meant to be a fun, quirky, advert ... The original script probably had something like PEACE or whatever ... but in the advertiser's view the last thing people want to be reminded of is the fact there's people killing each other, and really what cause would they support? I'm open to suggestions, as I'm sure they were, too. This was the best they came up with probably.

Yet it is a fact, people ARE killing each other. How long are we going to stay in happy TV la la land and make everything as "politically correct" as possible.

If the intent was subliminal, it's the worst attempt I've ever seen.

As a TV editor/producer I can tell you there are much better ways of using subliminal messages that no one could detect unless specifically looking for them. This was meant to be suggestive not subliminal.

All too often, these ideas come from the "idea people" who think everything they do is clever and original and a room full of yes men all nod their heads when the boss seems to like one. This is more likely the result of an ad guy thinking he's "edgy" and pitching the idea to the liking of the client. Sharpie did not come up with this, their ad agency did. It was then scrutinized many MANY times I promise you. Sharpie would not risk a media disaster for a commercial who's intent is to GAIN customers not alienate them.

I doubt SHARPIE is in cohoots with the government baddies, Boeing, Microsoft a different story maybe. Alex Jones has a history of sensationalism. I can no longer stomach his brand of infotainment.

Remember this, I was listening the day he first started talking about the OWS and he couldn't have been more negative about it, to him it was everything but an organic movement where people have finally started to wake up without him and his bullhorn. The next day, he must have gotten his marching orders and a new script because he did a complete 180, and made a lame apology of how he didn't mean everyone was bad only some, duh. But if you listened both days, you saw it for what it was. He may speak some truths, but it's not evil globalists that want to kill everyone just because their evil I fear the most, it's greedy corporate sellouts that knowingly lead people to the promised land and then push them off a cliff in sight of the real truth.

We need to stop anointing people to be our "leaders" and lead ourselves through critical thinking. Agreeing with anyone 100% of the time is the fastest way to losing any and all your credibility...and for good reason.

He may speak some truths, but it's not evil globalists that want to kill everyone just because their evil I fear the most, it's greedy corporate sellouts that knowingly lead people to the promised land and then push them off a cliff in sight of the real truth.

We need to stop anointing people to be our "leaders" and lead ourselves through critical thinking. Agreeing with anyone 100% of the time is the fastest way to losing any and all your credibility...and for good reason.

Thank you for explaining exactly how I feel about Alex Jones so easily. He may not be a complete liar, but I too question his motives.

reply to post by ThoughtForms


Good observations, the skeptic would say we are reading too much into this and that this is coincidental but the narration coupled with the banners/signs does seem to form a coherent message.
As far as advertising for Sharpies and that curtailing protesting would hurt their business, that may be but in the next sequence they get back to hocking Sharpies; The couple suggestively shove their hands in each others sharpie decorated pockets along with "no passion" translation; buy Sharpies or you wont get laid. This uses sex along with insecurity (about not gettin any) this is dating myself but its kind of like the old coffe commercial where the insecure wife thinks "he never asks for a second cup of my coffe" with an anxious look.