This Whole "Occupy Wallstreet" thing seems like theater of the absurd.

reply to post by Honor93

When you are capable of reading an entire post, comprehending it and then responding to it, I will consider your posts as worth responding to.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I honestly don't blame them for being pissed about the education they have/are receiving...at the prices they are expected to pay back...when even WITH a degree many of them have only elementary skill levels of proficiency. Of course I don't agree *free education* is a right, beyond k-12 but who can blame these kids for being pissed about being thousands in debt and only possessing rudimentary skills?? Another poster pointed out if you really LOOK at the crowd claiming they can't find work....you see part of the reason WHY... who on earth that owns a respectable business would want employees that are covered in tattoos and piercings, sporting very questionable hygiene? From the propaganda they are fed in our public schools they are being taught it's *okay*, and no one should be discriminating against them! They are being taught all about their rights but nothing about their responsibility or obligations; hardly prepares them for the real world. 26 is the new 18. What message does this send??? You don't have to grow up! AND Mommy and Daddy or Big Daddy Governement should pay the bills!

Previous generations had the same youthful passion and naivety, but when striking out on our own reality kicked in really quick. These kids have not been raised in reality, and all of us are partly to blame for it.

If they want to tear down something that would improve things for future generations they might wanna start on the Dept of Education!

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

The way vacines slow population growth is not by nefariously killing off people in the third world, but increasing child mortality, which in turn means families no longer feel the need to pop out so many babies in order to get a few healthy ones who can support the family.

Do you seriously think there is a nefarious plan by Bill Gates to depopulate the planet by simply killing off people using vacines? I mean that's some seriously evil intentions of Bill Gates if true. Mass genocide using chemical weapons. I'm not sure I can believe that.

The WHO has previously tainted vaccines with substances such as the pregnancy hormone. This caused women to either be infertile or miscarry.

reply to post by Observor

likewise only i won't run from confrontation ... why? because i am firm in my belief ... you should try it sometime.

Tis quite liberating to know that at least you have come full circle and realize that you cannot and probably should not argue with reality. Thank you

reply to post by Observor

ooooops, almost forgot ... fyi ... the Gates foundation is quite present and prominent in this area (just one county away) ... i am quite familiar with their intentions, their deeds and their distractions, are you?

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by marg6043

 

Statistics also show that more people start to find jobs right AFTER their unemployment runs out. Government continually extending benefits only enables such peeps.

I keep seeing this spouted about by everyone opposed to unemployment benefits. I have yet to see any proof of this to back it up.

reply to post by Honor93
Ok, are you aware you're creating strawmen like FOX pundits? My point regarding maturity stands.

What are they protesting? Are you naive? Uh, we are in the worst financial downturn since the great depression. Who brought this about? Uh, Wall Street and their cronies. Then after the collapse, Wall Street employees received the largest pay hike they have ever received. The government wants top dismantle social security and federal aid systems. Then they want to turn around and give the super rich yet another tax cut!!! So, op, what are they even protesting? If you cannot see, then you are blind,sir!!!!

reply to post by Jessicamsa
There are plenty of stats on it, google...

I am not against unemployment, I am against continuing to extend if for people not willing to accept jobs they find beneath them, big difference.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by marg6043

 

and this is where you folks lose the educated masses ...

While the economy goes down the crapper Wall street flourish, just take a minute and think what that means.

in one breath you claim it is all inter-connected (true - both WS & the economy) and then in the next (not even 2 pgs apart) you infer they are separate entities ... this is Why you don't understand.

quit telling ppl to educate themselves when clearly it is you who is lacking.
BE the change you wish to see ... get your hands dirty ... help a neighbor ... quit whining and do something other than pretend to be a catalyst of change you can't even define.
socialism is no answer.
whining certainly increases the cheeeez factor but accomplishes what exactly?

She is saying the fact that one fails while the other flourishes is evidence that the success of the wealthy does not mean that the poor will have more opportunity. Those who want the rich catered to while saying it'll help the rest of us are thus arguing a lie.

However, it is interconnected in that the wealthy are becoming more wealthy off the suffering of the poor.

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I honestly don't blame them for being pissed about the education they have/are receiving...at the prices they are expected to pay back...when even WITH a degree many of them have only elementary skill levels of proficiency. Of course I don't agree *free education* is a right, beyond k-12 but who can blame these kids for being pissed about being thousands in debt and only possessing rudimentary skills?? Another poster pointed out if you really LOOK at the crowd claiming they can't find work....you see part of the reason WHY... who on earth that owns a respectable business would want employees that are covered in tattoos and piercings, sporting very questionable hygiene? From the propaganda they are fed in our public schools they are being taught it's *okay*, and no one should be discriminating against them! They are being taught all about their rights but nothing about their responsibility or obligations; hardly prepares them for the real world. 26 is the new 18. What message does this send??? You don't have to grow up! AND Mommy and Daddy or Big Daddy Governement should pay the bills!

Previous generations had the same youthful passion and naivety, but when striking out on our own reality kicked in really quick. These kids have not been raised in reality, and all of us are partly to blame for it.

If they want to tear down something that would improve things for future generations they might wanna start on the Dept of Education!

edit on 10/5/11 by Cinaed because: (no reason given)

No actually there is actual data on the matter and NO they probably can not find work.

2011 College Graduates Find Job Market Bleak (56% down from 90% employed)
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Employment rates for new college graduates have fallen sharply in the last two years, as have starting salaries for those who can find work. What’s more, only half of the jobs landed by these new graduates even require a college degree, reviving debates about whether higher education is “worth it” after all. Of course, these are the lucky ones — the graduates who found a job.

Among the members of the class of 2010, just 56 percent had held at least one job by this spring, when the survey was conducted. That compares with 90 percent of graduates from the classes of 2006 and 2007. (Some have gone for further education or opted out of the labor force, while many are still pounding the pavement.)

Us young folks are getting screwed the worst out of anyone.

Cinead

There are plenty of stats on it, google... I am not against unemployment, I am against continuing to extend if for people not willing to accept jobs they find beneath them, big difference.

What jobs?

You are totally full of it . . .

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

There are plenty of stats on it, google...

I am not against unemployment, I am against continuing to extend if for people not willing to accept jobs they find beneath them, big difference.

Stats as in someone's doing a research project on it?

Most of those I know trapped in a state of unemployment were never able to qualify for unemployment to begin with. Therefore I highly question the assertion that ending unemployment will magically land people into a job.

Theater of the absurd. Right!?! On one hand it feels like a needed revolution, but on the other hand, something isn't quite right. I'm not sure exactly what it is about the whole situation that gives my gut that feeling. Perhaps it's the all over the place reason they're doing it. Some people are there under the popular idea that the whole purpose is to let Wall St know, we don't like their greed...that we won't stand for it. Then there are the ones who are against Capitalism which is a whole other animal.

Perhaps this why it doesn't feel right. When you attack Capitalism, you are attacking the very system that allows you rights as an individual. The problem is not Capitalism, the problem is greedy people taking advantage of a Capitalist system instead of this country being a true democracy.

The situation as a whole is something that I don't quite know how to take.

The Feds / Gov / Congress has been a theather of the absurd for way to long
time for another theater with better actors and script to rise

1% governing 99% is absurd
Stealing from the poor while already very rich people continu to want more is ABSURD
jailing innocent is absurd

i have so many other exemple .. the list goes on and on and on
its time WE clean up their mess .. like spoiled childrens they are
to selfish and corrupted to even lift a finger and do their JOB

when people dont do their jobs correctly WE FIRED THEM

Obama ... WE FIRE YOU
Congress WE FIRE YOU
Democrat & Republican WE FIRE YOU

except Ron Paul

reply to post by MasterGemini
I didn't say nor imply their appearance is why they can't find work. I clearly stated it certainly is PART of the problem. I have been in management much of my work career and I tell you, when people show up for work I only hired the ones that looked respectable, especially if the job description required them to be in the public eye.

Plenty of peeps in my generation had forms of self expression, they simply understood there is a time and place to sport it, and a time not to. Work is one of those times not to.

Having done lots of hiring I can tell you the odds are good lots of people will show up wanting the job, but the goods are really odd and you have to go through many interviews to find anyone acceptable to what is desired.

I am not at all saying this is the only reason they are unemployed, but I know it is part of the reason some of them are.

Add to that, and here honestly I can understand their resentment but not their choice. MANY will not accept a job they feel under pays them or is beneath their education. Well, when unemployment first kicks in I can see having this outlook, especially if they have college bills to repay, however....there comes a time when an adult swallows their pride and works for some crap job to get SOME money coming in...often jobs they don't want, don't like, that pay zip....they do it anyway and they keep looking.

Yes the economy IS VERY BAD! No one is minimizing the fact..so HOW COME with such direness about are soooooooo many to unwilling to sacrifice or clean up their act?

Originally posted by Cinaed
I am not against unemployment, I am against continuing to extend if for people not willing to accept jobs they find beneath them, big difference.

I'm totally with you on that. There are a lot of minimum wage jobs here. I keep hearing people say they won't take a job that's beneath them. I'm all for making them work like the rest of the lower class slaves. They might then understand what we're on about.

Originally posted by gentledissident
reply to post by Honor93

 

Ok, are you aware you're creating strawmen like FOX pundits? My point regarding maturity stands.

care to be "specific" or are you tossing anything out there hoping something sticks?
what point regarding maturity ??? never saw one of those and you certainly aren't exhibiting any so what is your point?

Originally posted by glitchinthematrix
When you attack Capitalism, you are attacking the very system that allows you rights as an individual.

I think you mean, "When you attack the Bill of Rights".

Originally posted by glitchinthematrixThe problem is not Capitalism, the problem is greedy people taking advantage of a Capitalist system instead of this country being a true democracy.

The problem is, capitalism allows it.

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by gentledissident
reply to post by Honor93

 

Ok, are you aware you're creating strawmen like FOX pundits? My point regarding maturity stands.

care to be "specific" or are you tossing anything out there hoping something sticks?
what point regarding maturity ??? never saw one of those and you certainly aren't exhibiting any so what is your point?

Strawman

Originally posted by Honor93
actually a more correct and precise statement would be ... there are a lot of people HOARDING the planets' resources and polluting our Earth ... many of these people are corporate individuals ... so, are you now supporting the corporatocracy ???

Maturity

Originally posted by gentledissident
When the day comes that we are mature enough to handle socialistic humanistic utopia, it will still be a good idea to watch our numbers.

I'd love to chat some more, but I have to go slave for the man. BBL