Occupy Wall Street Has Begun!

reply to post by yeti101

The UK has had universal health care for 70 years still no sign of communism here

well, ok never mind that Lenin himself said that "the goal of socialism is communism".... but what would he know about it?

If you've ever done any research on major conspiracy theories, such as on Skull and Bones Secret society, or Bilderbergs, one finds out that these people have spent hundreds of years perfecting their plans. The Illuminati was said to have been founded in May 1776, ironically the same year as the Independence of America from Britain.
And May 1, the traditonal day of Communist parades.

Ask anyone who has studied deeply these theories, that the hoped for goal is planned, prepared, implemented, year after year. The secret plans for the One World Govt have been going on for a hundred years here.

And for the record, the satanic Rothschilds have been building their empire for at least as long as the Napoleonic wars.

Expect MOAR


Arresting people for wearing guy fawkes masks, they violated our constitutional right. That means PAY DAY! Class action law suit, expect the henchmen to resort to damage control.

DUH WINNING

Still deciding if I want to get involved. I live right across the water, just have to take the Bklyn bridge and I'm there.

Today will be the day Palestine will become a new nation, or Obama better have a #ing good reason why they shouldn't be.

My anger level with my own country has reached a boiling point.

Corruption has destroyed my country, and it's our duty to restore America to its glory days.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by yeti101

 

The UK has had universal health care for 70 years still no sign of communism here

well, ok never mind that Lenin himself said that "the goal of socialism is communism".... but what would he know about it?

If you've ever done any research on major conspiracy theories, such as on Skull and Bones Secret society, or Bilderbergs, one finds out that these people have spent hundreds of years perfecting their plans. The Illuminati was said to have been founded in May 1776, ironically the same year as the Independence of America from Britain.
And May 1, the traditonal day of Communist parades.

Ask anyone who has studied deeply these theories, that the hoped for goal is planned, prepared, implemented, year after year. The secret plans for the One World Govt have been going on for a hundred years here.

And for the record, the satanic Rothschilds have been building their empire for at least as long as the Napoleonic wars.

edit on 23-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

How does that refute anything?
Socialized roads do not lead to communism any more than socialized roads or socialized military protection have.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by yeti101

 

The UK has had universal health care for 70 years still no sign of communism here

well, ok never mind that Lenin himself said that "the goal of socialism is communism".... but what would he know about it?

If you've ever done any research on major conspiracy theories, such as on Skull and Bones Secret society, or Bilderbergs, one finds out that these people have spent hundreds of years perfecting their plans. The Illuminati was said to have been founded in May 1776, ironically the same year as the Independence of America from Britain.
And May 1, the traditonal day of Communist parades.

Ask anyone who has studied deeply these theories, that the hoped for goal is planned, prepared, implemented, year after year. The secret plans for the One World Govt have been going on for a hundred years here.

And for the record, the satanic Rothschilds have been building their empire for at least as long as the Napoleonic wars.

edit on 23-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

Lenin isn't exactly the EXPERT on Socialism... that's asking a pretty DAMN corrupt historical figure what the "goal of socialism" is. Try again.

And you SERIOUSLY think there is some united goal of all those secret organizations and that it's COMMUNISM? Of ALL THINGS??? You're seriously out of touch. Communism is NOT the only system of authoritarian control, it is but ONE color in a great big rainbow of tyranny/oppression/hierarchy/power. Not everything is a goddamn communist plot. *facepalm*

reply to post by NoHierarchy


It's not worth my time arguing with someone who does not have any real understanding of history and of the theories and origins of socialism and communism.
Please do some research instead of giving me the typical rhetoric of denial. Even Betty Friedan, the red feminist who wrote "The Feminine Mystique" hid her associations with the communist party. There have been decades of people denying that communists just went underground after the McCarthy era. A certain someone has made it safe for them to come back out.
You could start with something simple, like wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org...

and then later on read some of Lenin's Marx's works including the Communist Manifesto.
Anyway, best of luck to you.

reply to post by NoHierarchy


I don't know that there is a common goal there, too many people from differing backgrounds have probably joined in, just like the La Raza and MEChA movements had rallies on May day, the traditional day for big Communist Parades of the Soviet Union and Red China, there were organizers, it didn't just happen spontanesously, but I doubt everyone who attended them even knew who were the organizers. There are hard core communists among La Raza and MEChA. It's not hard to see when there are tables and booths filled with books on Lenin and Che Guevara. Of course, it's possible that the Lenin and Che supporters just heard about the rallies and showed up, but....you must hear the speeches that some of the radicals give at these things.
Do you know who David Horowitz is? He is a former radical leftist, who left the Left, and has spent some time exposing the methods of the Left.

Well, here's his commentary on the protest

The US Day of Rage​’s Twitter feed features a photo of a defaced ten-dollar bill. Someone has added black hair and a Hitler moustache to Founding Father Alexander Hamilton, whom Congress honored in 1999 as “the man who more than any other designed the Government of the United States.”
The Founders as Nazis: that’s what the leftists who plan to occupy Wall Street tomorrow think of the American experiment. It’s not as if the media-savvy organizers of the US Day of Rage don’t understand the significance of the Founders. The event’s website constantly invokes the name of Publius, the pseudonym that Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay​ shared as they wrote The Federalist Papers.
Organizers of the event swear up and down that the mass protest will be nonviolent in nature. This raises the question of why they named their event after the original “Days of Rage” that took place in Chicago in 1969. That tumultuous year, members of what was later to become known as the Weather Underground​ provoked four days of riots and demonstrations against The System.

According to Adbusters, the Noam Chomsky-friendly magazine that regards capitalism as a disease and consumer advertising as mental pollution, 20,000 radicals, union members, and others are expected to occupy Wall Street.
Adbusters Media Foundation of Vancouver, Canada, the nonprofit behind the “anti-consumerist” magazine, has received funding from organizations associated with radical philanthropist George Soros​’s Democracy Alliance​, a donor collaborative that wants to push America even farther left.
The Adbusters Media Foundation has also taken in $309,773 from the Tides Foundation since 2001. Tides was created by Drummond Pike, a close friend of ACORN founder Wade Rathke​

frontpagemag.com...


So, please do your homework instead of just accusing me of being a no-nothing.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


If there has been a NWO pushing for a communist one world order for all these years, why did they let America win the Cold war? Wouldnt it have just been easier for the Soviet Union to take over the western capitalist system? Why wait so long to bring communism back? Why has George Sorros supported democratic groups in the former Soviet Union, helping them move way from Communism?

Seems like theres more protesting in this thread than on Wall St!!

Thats about the size of it I think!

I'll give them credit, 1 week in and still there, virtually a complete black out in the MSM, seems groups will be heading to DC around October 6 to Occupy DC as well...... Good for them, at least they are doing something

People will always have opinions as so openly shared in this thread and say whatever they want to say about the reasons but its pretty obvious to me what the problems are

Granted the organizers may have intentions and agendas in place, what doesnt? It comes down to the actions of the people, granted every opposition or grassroots movement over time, long or short seems to become infiltrated and hijacked for some other purpose but its beyond time something happens to motivate the people, I am sure this will happen much more when the Bankrupt Government cant pay the nanny state benefits and money stops flowing, but this is all just a Symptom of something much bigger

Instead of complaining and Bull #ting why not take Personal Responsibility for our own actions and thoughts and stop being blinded by the Products we have been sold (Left Vs Right , D vs R)

I know its a lost concept on most, but its time to start being the change we wish to see rather than constant regurgitation of years of indoctrination and programming

found this website
occupywallst.org...

reply to post by woodwardjnr


The Cold war was fabricated to build up the Military Industrial Complex, staged, Profited on and used to fund both sides for Agenda Building purposes.

HUllo, dont know if this is posted yet but heres a link to live feed

spread it! tweet it! fb it!

www.livestream.com...

reply to post by awakened1


I agree with you to a point. Anyone who studies history is well acquainted with create a problem, give a solution that otherwise wouldn't have been considered, then give the answer the problem creators wanted. When Al Gore and the left wing demanded this, then they are left alone when anyone else would have been crushed under the jack boots tells the story. However the people are being pushed from the bottom and the top with no other choice. They have been planning for riots in order to roll out their NWO Agenda. There is one problem when you stir the pot of disgruntled citizens. Once started it is easy to lose contol of what has been started. As I was told by an Egyptian friend all the people were sick and tired of being sick and tired they felt they had nothing left to lose. No matter the outcome they had to do something.

Well all..I witnessed something extraordinary today..makes me rethink my earlier post. I took a trip to whole foods today, the one at 14th st and union square in manhattan. grabbed some stuff, just a couple items, and when I was done, I thought I'd go down to wall street and see what there was to be seen. I could have taken the subway, but I felt like walking, so, I busted a left on broadway and starting walking downtown.

I'd only gotten a few blocks when I ran into a march FROM wall street/liberty park to union square. hundreds of people, walking right in the street through traffic, police escorting the whole way. Loud, boisterous, joyful..lots of chanting. lots of signs about wall street, but also, about troy davis(the guy who georgia executed a couple days ago).

So, me, being me, I joined the march. we march up broadway to union square.(edit: not straight up, we took a roundabout route) we were waving at the people watching, asking them to join us. some did. for the ones that didn't, though, you could see the support in their faces, some were vocal, but I also saw a lot of quiet admiration. now, just as we were about to cross the street to get to union square, NYPD busts out these red-netting temporary barriers, trying to stop us from advancing. they started pushing people back, then, for some reason they relented, dropped the net barriers and we were allowed to proceed. So, we're in union square. the organizers are doing the rah-rah thing, people are happy, in the moment and so on. no issues so far. but then..it starts getting crazy. we're about to head back to liberty..and I witness the 1st arrest. cops take someone down, didn't see why. it starts getting tense. people are chanting "shame, shame" and, "the whole world is watching". so, people gather themselves and keep marching on.

We get to 12th and university, and that's when all hell broke loose. I saw cops beating people with nightsticks, maceing people, pushing and shoving not only marchers, but press people as well. lots of arrests. the whole media team the organizers had was detained. oddly, most of the arrests I saw were women, one woman in particular was thrown very hard to the ground..when she was led away, her mouth was full of blood. I saw people waving american flags arrested.. it was the most surreal thing. and the cops...so many cops. at one point, just before the main flashpoint, there was an arrest further up, and we were all running right down the middle of the street, because everyone wanted to document/film etc, and cops were running right alongside us, 4 across and 7 deep or so. it was just insane. They got the red netting out again, started corraling people, trying to calm the scene. it was very close to a full-blown riot. I've never seen anything like it.

Anyway, people dispersed, and there was a regrouping somewhere else, but that's when I decided to leave. I have to say, my admiration for the organizers is off the chain right now. These people are putting in WORK. I thought them just lazy kids protesting half-ass earlier, because that's what I saw at that moment..but, this thing is full grown now.

I don't want to make any grand pronouncements; I don't want to overblow the incident. But, I can't help but think that this might be the 21st century equivalent of the shot heard 'round the world. And I was glad to part of that field of energy. Yes, I took pics, but, not having a smartphone, they came out awful, especially with all the shoving and movement going on. but I'll keep 'em, cause, in today's world, it's "pics or it didn't happen/you weren't there". Well, I WAS there..
And I think, much later in life looking back, I'll be damned glad I was.

reply to post by dragonseeker


Good to hear from someone who was there. I have also been on a peaceful protest that turned a bit nasty. It doesn't take long for a situation like that to get out of control. The police must know this and in my opinion don't help the situation with their tactics, but maybe that's the point.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by dragonseeker

 

Good to hear from someone who was there. I have also been on a peaceful protest that turned a bit nasty. It doesn't take long for a situation like that to get out of control. The police must know this and in my opinion don't help the situation with their tactics, but maybe that's the point.

I'm back home now, but reading the twitter feeds..it's still going down. more arrests. ongoing situation.

reply to post by dragonseeker


Just seen this on the Twitter,



Police using mace on protesters, what look like young girls.

well, 100 protestors arrested today, people getting maced.....

www.livestream.com...


They are saying the cops are going to sweep in tonight.

Originally posted by NoAngel2u

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by seachange

 

De-regulation is the mantra of the Left. It is socialist code for big govt and Statism and bureaucratic interference in every aspect of our lives, even Happy meals.

Surely "left" is a typo? I thought De-regulation was the capitalist mantra for freedom to poison and contaminate our collective resources of air, water and lands? lol Oh, and not to mention to freely enslave the underclasses. lol

Sorry, you are right. The Left wants regulations. The typo was deregulation should be regulations. But probably what I had in mind is that the Left continually talks about how deregulations have ruined the economy.

This entire thing with all the energy of the college age student is starting to remind me of an old song----

I hope anyone going to see in person is damn careful...

Take a listen and remember, history has a way of repeating itself

www.youtube.com...