Occupy Wall Street Has Begun!

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

If there has been a NWO pushing for a communist one world order for all these years, why did they let America win the Cold war? Wouldnt it have just been easier for the Soviet Union to take over the western capitalist system? Why wait so long to bring communism back? Why has George Sorros supported democratic groups in the former Soviet Union, helping them move way from Communism?

Perhaps the West proved too difficult to take over. Think about it. We had the Constitution and free enterprise, the Wild West and arable land that's not frozen the whole year(brrr its cold in Siberia). We had Ford motors! We had Thomas Edison. Lots of innovation. We had a wild and free spirit. Much harder to put down. In the forties we had the Victory of WWII as wind in our sails. In the fifties we had a strong family.
We had strong defense during the Reagan years. Meanwhile the communist economy imploded from within. Remember the bread lines in the 70s? Remember the loans we made the Soviets for grain because their collective farms didn't work?
I know that Kruschev stated on record as intending to take over the West from within.
Remember George Soros is a Socialist, but I have heard rumors he may have even been a Soviet operative. I think there are factions within the NWO just like there were factions in the Italian mafia. They will shoot each other over territory.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

If there has been a NWO pushing for a communist one world order for all these years, why did they let America win the Cold war? Wouldnt it have just been easier for the Soviet Union to take over the western capitalist system? Why wait so long to bring communism back? Why has George Sorros supported democratic groups in the former Soviet Union, helping them move way from Communism?

And why wait so long? Good question for Kruschev, if he were still around. Again, the bankers actually financed the Bolsheviks and Hitler too, they make money off of thse kinds of movements. I'm sure there's plenty of greed involved. In the socialist world, the ends jusfity the means. During WWII, it served a purpose to have the Berlin Wall keep East Berliners from leaving the country. Now, we have the NWO push for a borderless One World Govt. Different stages I guess.
That is why Perry's stance on the Southern Border and illegals is extremely disturbing. I think he is promoting the borderless model. People who support NAFTA don't care about US Sovereignty. Perry apparently supported secession of Texas too, and I'm not certain why he has taken such opposite sides unless, like David Horowitz, he has learned from past mistakes.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


These are things I've already researched, I've already read the Communist Manifesto... and... news flash... THERE STILL ISN'T A COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY. You've allowed yourself to be inundated with right-wing propaganda from a couple conspiracy theorists. I must ask you to do YOUR homework instead, and not on freaking right-wing blogs!!!!

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Once again... more conspiracy theory, less FACT.

You can believe the race-baiting commie-haters all you want. But La Raza is NOT a Communist organization. Just because a group of people admires revolutionaries of the past, or fights for workers/peoples rights, or fights for social justice and social benefits... doesn't make them a Communist. You are living in a world of black and white, of slippery slopes that don't exist. Please reassess your assumptions about where Socialism ACTUALLY leads (hint: it's NOT always totalitarian Communism). Do your research on the Paris Commune, on the Spanish Revolution, on what's called Social Democracy (like in Germany/Scandinavia). REALIZE that every single nation-state throughout history has provided SOCIAL WELFARE, and that these benefits, at the very LEAST, are some of the only GOOD things a government can do for its citizenry. Otherwise we get more of a sh** deal out of state-society.

Edit to add:
Both Adbusters and Noam Chomsky are quite respectable and uncorrupted. Nothing wrong with supporting them, in FACT, they're so far OUT of the establishment elites that they barely get mentioned in MSM. Of course... you never researched the recent history of the left-wing and how IT has been left out of the mainstream, marginalized, oppressed, treated as radicals/terrorists/etc., and not respected for its superior intellect/awareness/compassion/facts/vision/solutions.

Originally posted by NoHierarchy
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

These are things I've already researched, I've already read the Communist Manifesto... and... news flash... THERE STILL ISN'T A COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY. You've allowed yourself to be inundated with right-wing propaganda from a couple conspiracy theorists. I must ask you to do YOUR homework instead, and not on freaking right-wing blogs!!!!

I had a big response here, but I edited it because I know that it is falling on deaf ears.

The truth of what is happening with this protest will come out, I hope.

reply to post by NoHierarchy

Both Adbusters and Noam Chomsky are quite respectable and uncorrupted. Nothing wrong with supporting them

I supposed it depends upon one's personal perspective.

methinks you dost protest too much.

I have no doubt there are some sincere individuals camped out there. I know it really bothers some people to have this rain on their parade but if you are for Soros and his Tides foundations, I cannot be for you.
www.associatedcontent.com...

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
It's not worth my time arguing with someone who does not have any real understanding of history and of the theories and origins of socialism and communism.

Right back at you.
Youre not reading replies on your posts or ignore points you cant refute.
Your interpretations contradict whats happening in the real world (or you are a really good troll), dunno who or what brainwashed you like this.
So there is no point in arguing, you're right about that.

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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Both Adbusters and Noam Chomsky are quite respectable and uncorrupted. Nothing wrong with supporting them

I supposed it depends upon one's personal perspective.

methinks you dost protest too much.

I have no doubt there are some sincere individuals camped out there. I know it really bothers some people to have this rain on their parade but if you are for Soros and his Tides foundations, I cannot be for you.
www.associatedcontent.com...

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Methinks thou dost post too much. Too bad we can't all have enough leisure time to re-post our same opinions over and over ad infinitum, but I suppose most of us are too busy trying to scratch out a living while simultaneously supporting the leisure class in the style in which they would like to become accustomed.

I just missed some blurp about this on the news, did anything significant happen with this protest last night or today?

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by NoHierarchy
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

These are things I've already researched, I've already read the Communist Manifesto... and... news flash... THERE STILL ISN'T A COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY. You've allowed yourself to be inundated with right-wing propaganda from a couple conspiracy theorists. I must ask you to do YOUR homework instead, and not on freaking right-wing blogs!!!!

I had a big response here, but I edited it because I know that it is falling on deaf ears.

The truth of what is happening with this protest will come out, I hope.

edit on 26-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

You're only believing what you want to believe. For some twisted reason, a massive Commie conspiracy makes some kind of strange sense to you... it resonates with you and you won't allow ANY other possibility. You are blinded by xenophobia and right-wing propaganda. If anyone is deaf (and blind) it's you... the left-wing is probably more anti-Communist in-practice than the right-wing is. The right-wing hunts down activists/revolutionaries and calls them commies, the left-wing actually FIGHTS for human rights in Communist countries and against their governments.

This protest is GRASSROOTS, it is Democratically run and if you seriously think it's going to turn into some massive Communist/totalitarian uprising then you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO UNDERSTANDING OF THE PEOPLE, ISSUES, AND SENTIMENTS INVOLVED IN OCCUPYWALLSTREET.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Both Adbusters and Noam Chomsky are quite respectable and uncorrupted. Nothing wrong with supporting them

I supposed it depends upon one's personal perspective.

methinks you dost protest too much.

I have no doubt there are some sincere individuals camped out there. I know it really bothers some people to have this rain on their parade but if you are for Soros and his Tides foundations, I cannot be for you.
www.associatedcontent.com...

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Seriously?? You're seriously doing the Soros conspiracy thing?? THE TIDES FOUNDATION PROVIDES CHARITABLE DONATIONS TO MANY ORGANIZATIONS, MOSTLY ON THE LEFT-WING. Compare this to the MAJORITY of industry/rich money that goes to RIGHT-WING interests and think-tanks. The Tides Foundation is probably the only DECENT form of funneling money towards causes that actually RESIST the establishment. I have few qualms with that. And that's HARDLY part of any kind of "communist conspiracy". It's just money provided to the ACTUAL left for ONCE by the minority wealthy who have brain/heart enough to fund the right fight.

reply to post by NoHierarchy


And so are you only believing what you want. It's just too bad if you and others here don't like what I have to say. I've been a freedom fighter since I was a teen and I do not take things like this lightly. I always look for the dark side because sure enough, it's always there, like night and day.
The Battle of Armageddon involves light and dark forces pitted against one another.
I would love nothing better than for this to be the energy of the force of light. I was also beginning to be suspicious of the fact that there was hardly any coverage, but Fox decided to do something on it. You can think whatever you like of me, but remember there was a fight between the Patriots and the Tories.....
If you happen to want socialism, I'm sure you will be more than happy to see economic collapse, because this is what the forces of dark want.
The Phoenix rises from the ashes, but remember the lessons of alchemy.

I see you are also defending Soros. It reminds me of a conversation I had with someone where I told him about how Soros stole wealth from the Jews and the guy did a Google and found that Soros gave away money so he decided the whole stealing from the Jews wasn't so bad after all.
And that is how the Big Dogs do this....they give to charity then turn around and fund a violent revolution, just like the Bush family did with Hitler, just like the Rockefellers did with the Bolsheviks. You may not like what I have to say, but I do have decades of research behind me.

Originally posted by Swingline50022

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Both Adbusters and Noam Chomsky are quite respectable and uncorrupted. Nothing wrong with supporting them

I supposed it depends upon one's personal perspective.

methinks you dost protest too much.

I have no doubt there are some sincere individuals camped out there. I know it really bothers some people to have this rain on their parade but if you are for Soros and his Tides foundations, I cannot be for you.
www.associatedcontent.com...

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Methinks thou dost post too much. Too bad we can't all have enough leisure time to re-post our same opinions over and over ad infinitum, but I suppose most of us are too busy trying to scratch out a living while simultaneously supporting the leisure class in the style in which they would like to become accustomed.

Well if that's what it takes to get the message through hard heads....

reply to post by Swingline50022

Too bad we can't all have enough leisure time to re-post our same opinions over and over ad infinitum, but I suppose most of us are too busy trying to scratch out a living while simultaneously supporting the leisure class

I wasn't going to give this judgemental post the time of day, but I wondered why you admire the protesters camping out in front of Wall Street for over a week, taking money for pizza and Starbucks, while telling me I have no right to post here whenever I want.

reply to post by ColCurious

Youre not reading replies on your posts or ignore points you cant refute.

Typical to call someone a troll just because I have a strong opinion. Would you call the protesters trolls for sleeping over in the park 24/7 and fighting with the NYPD for a camera shot so they can look all innocent ? You might be a tad naive.

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Good find, his message needs to be heard.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Swingline50022

 

Too bad we can't all have enough leisure time to re-post our same opinions over and over ad infinitum, but I suppose most of us are too busy trying to scratch out a living while simultaneously supporting the leisure class

I wasn't going to give this judgemental post the time of day, but I wondered why you admire the protesters camping out in front of Wall Street for over a week, taking money for pizza and Starbucks, while telling me I have no right to post here whenever I want.

I never mentioned pizza or Starbucks, or said that I admired the protesters. I did say that they had a Constitutional right, if not a DUTY, to publicly protest what they, and many of us, see as inequities in the system.

I would like to see a redress of their grievances, yes. I applaud their self-sacrifice and efforts to focus the public eye on the festering inequalities and gaming of the system perpetrated by those bankers, financiers, and puppet politicians who collaborate with the global corporate hegemony that has hijacked representative government in what some of us still idealistically like to think of as our Constitutional republic.

I never said you had no right to post here whenever you want. I do wonder at how you find or make time to post as often and verbosely as you do, and I lament the fact that many of us, including me, do not have such time. Thank you for giving me the time of day. Have a nice week.