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The reality I see is that we live in a totalitarian society. A capitalistic society doesn't have to be so authoritarian, nor so corrupt, as ours has become.
Originally posted by Therealworld2011
Demonstrating in NYC in the ROADWAY is illegal without proper permits. If a police officer ask you to move to the sidewalk and you refused for whatever reason, you will be arrested for refusing to abide by lawful order to leave. This charge is call disorderly conduct. Under this charge, you can also be arrest for cursing in public, being loud and creating a crowd gathering. Understanding this charge will better your knowledge before you go out screaming, yelling and refusing to move like a savage. Not all protesters are saints nor are the police officer. That being said, you take a risk when you attend. Will anything change by this protest? Probably not. The reality is we live in a capitalistic society. It's nice to have a voice in this society but at the same time your voice will be overcast by the roar of our government. The same government that we elect into office.
Originally posted by Therealworld2011
Demonstrating in NYC in the ROADWAY is illegal without proper permits. If a police officer ask you to move to the sidewalk and you refused for whatever reason, you will be arrested for refusing to abide by lawful order to leave. This charge is call disorderly conduct. Under this charge, you can also be arrest for cursing in public, being loud and creating a crowd gathering. Understanding this charge will better your knowledge before you go out screaming, yelling and refusing to move like a savage. Not all protesters are saints nor are the police officer. That being said, you take a risk when you attend. Will anything change by this protest? Probably not. The reality is we live in a capitalistic society. It's nice to have a voice in this society but at the same time your voice will be overcast by the roar of our government. The same government that we elect into office.
Originally posted by Therealworld2011
Demonstrating in NYC in the ROADWAY is illegal without proper permits. If a police officer ask you to move to the sidewalk and you refused for whatever reason, you will be arrested for refusing to abide by lawful order to leave. This charge is call disorderly conduct. Under this charge, you can also be arrest for cursing in public, being loud and creating a crowd gathering. Understanding this charge will better your knowledge before you go out screaming, yelling and refusing to move like a savage. Not all protesters are saints nor are the police officer. That being said, you take a risk when you attend. Will anything change by this protest? Probably not. The reality is we live in a capitalistic society. It's nice to have a voice in this society but at the same time your voice will be overcast by the roar of our government. The same government that we elect into office.
Originally posted by cornucopia
www.youtube.com...#!
one word...
awesome
thank you
Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by Ellen15
So it will be long and hard lol
But seriously... best of luck to you guys over there!
Corporate America is definitely in need of some asskicking.
I hope youre right about the signs of times.
I never mentioned pizza or Starbucks, or said that I admired the protesters. I did say that they had a Constitutional right, if not a DUTY, to publicly protest what they, and many of us, see as inequities in the system
I pretty much agree but the Federal Reserve is just another aspect of the same adversary represented by the big major banks on Wall Street. The F.R. is completely controlled by the big bankers. The only real control of any kind our government exerts over the F.R. is through the appointment of the F.R. chairman. This appointee is always selected from among the representatives of the big banks. Through the F.R., the big banks masquerade as an agency of our government, which it is not. Through the F.R., our government has abdicated control of our money supply to the banks.
Originally posted by Cinaed
I still say if they want to be truly effective they need to focus on the true enemy of The People, the Federal Reserve. If all these passionate young people would focus on this evil I think they would pull many groups that actually oppose them on other issues to run to rally with the cause and back their play.
Just one old fuddy duddy's opinion.
Fair enough, I suspect NoHierarchy might have felt the same about your comment that he or she protested too much. My apologies, and thanks for the link to the very well-written Global Research summary article on the Bilderbergs.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Swingline50022
I never mentioned pizza or Starbucks, or said that I admired the protesters. I did say that they had a Constitutional right, if not a DUTY, to publicly protest what they, and many of us, see as inequities in the system
I have never contested their Constitutional right. I just stated they were taking donations for pizza, and you were judging me for my stance. Did you not accuse me of having too much time for posting, while they are camped out there 24/7 taking donations? Your accusation in fact reeked of class warfare, which is a major component in socialism and communism.
Soros is an operative of Rothschilds and if you want to take this thing all the way, go to the source.
You say Capitalism doesn't have to be authoritarian. I would actually agree with that statement. That is why I am for free enterprise, not crony capitalism. There are definitely socialists mixed in with that crowd at Wall Street, and I don't think they all are. Since Obama got in the WH there has been a huge push for socialism, like a giant tidal wave. Socialism always has collectivism at the heart of its being, and therefore is the enemy of freedom and individualism.
I imagine that Soros' hatred of Bush is just part of the rivalry that goes with the Elite, or he genuinely views Bush as the enemy of his socialist utopia. But in the end, all these guys slap each other's back at the next Bilderberg meet.
Maybe this will explain my view more plainly....the role of the Bilderbergs, because Soros is part of it....and Soros has connections to the protest....
www.globalresearch.ca...
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Everything has to start somewhere sometime somehow. Or you can do nothing and wait for global cataclysm. It's a choice.
Originally posted by Apollo44
Hello friends.
Let me offer some perspective......
I am proud of the people who are participating in Occupy Wall Street....but let's face it. It will not go anywhere. This is not Tunisia. This is not Egypt. This is not Syria. This is not Libya. We are not dealing with Mubarak, or Gadhaffi, or Assad.....we do not have the help of a foreign nation putting pressure on our government to reform....you can't expect to send a few hundred people out into the street of one American city to protest and get the same results seen in the Middle East. I'm sorry but it is the truth. If you look at the numbers of protesters in the Arab spring uprisings, you are looking at 100,000.....200,000.....half a million.......and that is to take down a 3rd world country......all these people "occupying" wall street in hopes of influencing reform or change of the American monetary system or financial complex....it's not going to work. You are wasting energy. You are wasting time. The beast that we are dealing with is so deeply rooted, so heavily influential on the world, and so utterly powerful that the only way it is going to fall is through a global cataclysm or if all the countries who hate us join together to beat up the school bully. I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news and pessimism.....but wake up people. This is going nowhere. To the elite, this protest is a joke. Until we see tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands in the streets of every major American city, the monster that is American capitalism and imperialism will continue to exert its will and force on it's people and on the world.