The Greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Davian

 

It is not a fail because the chance of life outside earth is very small due to compounding probabilities. Their are levels of enlightenment you haven't reached yet.

Levels of enlightenment
1 - Earth is only thing that supports life
2 - Universe is so big that there must be life
3 - Chance of right conditions and probabilities for life to arise are compounded so much so that the size of the universe is minuscule compared to the probability of life. Therefore earth is the only place.

When you get to my level of enlightenment call me. So you fail.

I read your essay, or the essay you seem to have accepted as truth so easily. And to be honest, it is an interpretation. There is no reason to take it seriously. Period. It's obvious that you've believed it all for a long time, and you simply posted an essay you thought was well written which displayed what you have been conditioned to believe for so long. Clearly you are completely ignorant of the FACTS that have increased the possibility of life in the universe outside of our own. I can go and link several articles and papers published, but we all know that you being as , quite frankly you are intolerant of the ideas of others. You have not shown yourself to be enlightened, but more along the lines of un-educated and self- righteous. Please do me a favor. The next time you decide to post your nonsense, please back it up with scholarly sources, instead of some guys interpretation. I've heard this story a hundred times, and I seriously cannot believe someone as old as you thinks that spirits would have to disguise themselves as people with spacesuits, but then again that's to be expected from people who do not have minds of their own. It is literally like trying to discuss the Holocaust with a Holocaust denier.

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by Daniyal
"The Professional", I am a devout muslim but some of your claims, no most of them are just rediculous. Yes, I personally believe 100% in the Quran, but the only time I will post something in relation to it is when I have evidence, the evidence where there is a trusted external source outlining clearly or it can even be a bit vague, but backing up my point. Hell, I have had strange and extremely paranormal spirtual experiences, but I don't have the evidence. I suggest you take a look at your arguement and actually see how logical it is, because well, from many of the members perspective, including mine, it's not(Not trying to be mean, just a tip).

I am a devout Christian, as it is said the Qu'ran is not fiction, so is the Bible not fiction. In the account of Genesis chapter six, it speaks of the watchers, how they saw the the daughters of men were beautiful, and these watchers took the daughters of men and bore children with them. These children grew up to be giants and were called the Nephilim, men of old renowned. In the book of Enoch which was omitted from being in the Bible speaks of the watchers the fallen ones(angels) and makes reference to the same thing of how these fallen ones took the daughters of men and went into them, and the daughters of men had children by these fallen ones, and were called the Nephilim.
The Book of Enoch goes on to explain how the fallen ones taught men alchemy, sorcery, about herbs from different plants, many different types of knowledge. There are many interesting writings in this Book of Enoch that can explain why we are where we are today. All this is readily available to anyone that wants to search out all of this either on the net or a local library or book store. The information is there all you need to do is look and study.
Some of the UFO's are man made, and some are not, some are actual manifestations of entities that are not what most would like to believe. Cattle mutilations are again not what most want to believe. Abductions another misconception, they are not aliens. What are taught to be aliens are entities that have came through portals, how they came through is the big question. And I have my sources on that topic. It takes a lot of study to find out these things, and to be closed minded on such topics does not help you to find out what is really going on on our planet.

The bible is a a fictitious plagiarism. Iit is a collection of literature from previous civilizations re-fabricated. Some famous sayings and lines are stolen verbatim from other sources. Are you kidding me? Do you even know what you're talking about?

reply to post by shenanigans


It WAS satisfying.
Call me petty, but it was fun.

ps , your avatar is a classic.

Actually, "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind" is religion i my opinion. If anyone is a sheep it is you and those who blindly follow a god they have never met, and have no proof exists.

Then you have the audacity to call people like me sinners and tell us we will go straight to hell just because we don't believe the same faitytale as you. Nonsense.
You might be right that ufo's are demons, who knowns but it's hard to take you seriously.

However, there is enormous evidence to support the assumption that deceptive entities have masqueraded as extraterrestrials. [...]

Did they actually use the word "evidence"?
That should be more like ...

However, there is enormous speculation that the assumption that deceptive entities have masqueraded as extraterrestrials. [...]

Frankly, I'm not seeing any reason for the belief in extra-terrestrials (or even "Ancient Aliens") to be any less credible, than any mainstream religion - much less any fringe religious believe/practice.

One could just as easily counter-postulate that ...

However, there is enormous evidence to support the assumption that deceptive extraterrestrials have masqueraded as demons/jinns. [...]

As far as the "evidence" to back that postulation up, just refer to tons of alien abduction stories, ancient alien hypothesis, etc.

As far as which point-of-view (not necessarily even discussed here) is actually correct, I'll keep that to myself and my NWO colleagues. Very few people here are cleared for that level of access.

Interesting theory, brought up many times on the ATS board but I never did find a convincing piece of evidence or something in the rumor mill that confirms this. Never the less, we have this type of posts every once in a while.

The question I have for the OP is, if I were to keep an open mind on the following statement:

1. "UFOs and Aliens from outer space are really Angels and Demons in disguise."

Can you keep an open mind that possibly:

2. "During the Biblical times, Angels and Demons (perhaps even the almighty) were actually Aliens in disguise?"

I think that these ideas are "entangled" in some way.

If the theory of Ancient Astronauts really proves to be true, then technically, you're not so wrong about these so called Aliens used to be the Angels and Demons of the old world.

Evidence or it doesn't exist. At least the OP could try to tell a good story. He just states hist theory as a matter of fact and then derides anyone that contradicts him. Typical troll behavior really. I don't know why people bother feeding the egos of such posters.

Originally posted by Seekeye2
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

Wow, someone needs to seriously tell the person who made that page about the existence of something that would make it a lot easier to read : paragraphs!

If I ever read that it's getting pasted into notepad and splitting up.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Everything is fiction until evidence appears. What if the prophets had a little humor and swore the Sun "glowed with a purple hue for 7 years"? Would we, as humans, catch it or would we find proof that it is possible that the Sun could have emitted a purplish hue for 7 years due to light fragmentations found with our newest "SpaceScope".....I mean we KNOW that the man walked on water

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Have you ever thought maybe Aliens would be far, far above any religious belief system we have?

That they may not even understand "good" and "evil" as we see it?

You do not know how close to the truth you really are...do you? Only humankind needs a God, they are to weak to stand on their own, so, they need something lots bigger than they are to look up to, and will do so without researching one thing about the one who has their devotion. By the way, most do not read the book they hold so close either. But they will be glad to tell you that God wrote it.

I, of course, believe it all to be hoaxes. Its hard for me to fathom why aliens are always depicted naked. Along with their technology, surely they could have invented clothing for themselves. Seems to me that, since humans love parading themselves in the nude (Porn, streaking, xrated magazines...etc) and deem the weird behaviour normal, humans have created a nude mythical being of seemingly higher intelligence to justify their weirdo behaviour, Aliens jinns Venus in a clam shell.....

We have done exactly that because no-one has caught an alien or jinn and questioned their leud behaviour.

My theory is that, some thousands of thousands years ago, some guy was out naked in the sun and got caught out by some visiting aliens. Trembling with fear, he hoofed it to the nearest village to explain to them that he had seen a jinn. After the confusion, one inquisitive person asked "Why are you naked" His reply, "the Jinn stole my clothes"
so, before his clothes were stolen, they were aliens, since taking his "clothes" they have become theiving demons, Jinns.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by skyjohn

 

All religious books belong with the fiction.

So you are saying the Koran is fiction? You must provide evidence that it is a work of fiction. Otherwise it is a fact.

All so called holy books are works of fiction and were written by MEN. The same men who believed that the Earth was friggin flat, and persecuted the realists like Galileo Galilei, who knew the truth about the universe, and the order of things. He was imprisoned in his house ( a very light sentence of that time in history, during the Roman inquisition), His only other punishment was the requirement that he publicly recant his view that the earth moved around the sun.

So OP.......you are gauging the Greys and Reptillians on the the scale of Evil in comparison to what exactly.............
Spanish Inquisition?
Taiping Rebellion
Cathars Masacre
The list goes on and on......and on and on.

Have you witnessed this evil .....or is it something you've read? Point of fact, Greys aren't evil and are very pleasant in nature, now the darker skinned type smaller headed with the big cat type eyes...well they work under the cover of darkness and I'm still here so they can't be all that bad. I Know of 3 types, my own experiences they aren't evil(in caps if you like) by a long chalk.......... Until you've met any of them you shouldn't judge.
Yes i'm offended by it and very saddened also.......

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Nice theory,
There is no doubt that alien grey could be those same dimensional beings. Some are bad some are good. like us.
But there is still some to discuss.
1
* Greys are reported to have no sex organs and not eaten food. (make them more spiritual)
* Instantly disapearance of the grey aliens has been reported (spiritual)

2
* Then what about the ufo crash incident of roswell, russia etc... all fake?
* Spaceships has been seen etc.. (?)
* Recovered Alien bodies etc.. (?)

If the first one is true then i guess we have the explanation for the sasquatch/big foot, loch ness etc... (all may in fact be dimensional beings)

Yet there is more questions than answers...

well this got off topic quickly! (see pages 1,2,3..)

I would just like to say that I can see the logic in the op's statement depending on the crucial factor of whether powerful & influential people pushing agenda's through the media happen to believe in the jinn themselves.

Basically what I'm saying is that the OP's idea isn't crazy if he's pointing out the craziness of those pushing the fake alien agenda....do you get it? Lets say one of the owners of a movie production company that release alot of ufo related works was a practitioner of black magic who used mirror rituals to talk to entities. Essentially he could have gone mad talking to himself in the mirror all the time & genuinely believing he/she had made contact with a jinn starts serving the agenda of the jinn who is really his/her own crazy ass self gone crazy.

Just thinking outside the box if you will...

-B.M

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by skyjohn

 

All religious books belong with the fiction.

So you are saying the Koran is fiction? You must provide evidence that it is a work of fiction. Otherwise it is a fact.

lmfao

Maybe a bad idea for my first post, but..... oh well. I just had a few points i'd like to make, for one, i feel it's unnecessary for anyone pushing a religion to call others "sheep" (OP), especially as you surely are herded into your own mosques/churches etc anytime instructed to, decounce any information contradictory to that provided by your own pastors/rhabbis etc. and though well-intentioned, remain as an ostrich, head in the sands of your chosen (or passed-down) religion. it seems quite selfish from my pov, to say that any creatures that seem to be from elsewhere cannot be. every living thing has been placed here by the CREATOR, no matter what form they take. aliens? no, just evil demons... not really doing much, just creeping about hardly ever seen by most, toiling away at nothing of much consequence... and as much as i feel this thread is dead, i feel if anyone gains anything from its ugliness, regarding something as fact because the author says its so, and cannot be disproven is just not bright thinking. as the OP brought up Saddam and his "wmd's" earlier.... well Bush's people said it was so, and i don't think you can prove it is not. After all, they might be invisible. Or the djinn's might be hiding them in their evil ship miles in the earth.... I like this site because of all the open-minded folks on it, but i hope even when misguided people make obvious mistakes it still might help some. even if it comes from the ridicule sure to follow.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


This is all based on some premise that 'life' is defin-able as similiar to the creatures of planet earth. Who knows what equals 'hospitable' to a life form we may not even be able to conceive of -

This is all FEAR.

False
Evidence
Appearing
Real

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I agree with you on both, UFO's being military, and on the entities being demons, or fallen angels.
Nephilim.
Just a theory. No personal proof.
I do have experience with "Sleep Paralysis", and I believe it is not dreams, but actual present dark spirits.
Calling out the name of Jesus always has put an end to my bad experiences.