Mysterious Missile Launch Over California - 11/8/2010

Well, The one guy who did get some spotty cell phone service out of the

Carnival Splendor is not reporting anything odd besides being on one

hell of a crappy cruise (no pun intended). He's a news service employee in LA.

He has cell phone capability. therefore no emp burst. ah well.

CBS interview of employee on ship

Originally posted by denaliland
Here's a video of a space shuttle launch from 35 miles away.
Any similarities?

Yeah notice how BRIGHT the trail gets as it goes higher and catches the sunlight?

Good proof its a jet contrail in the OP video

here

dont know if this was posted but here.

reply to post by zorgon


Well after the first 12 hours and on about page 40 I said now they will confirm its a plane regardless..
They simply couldn't say anything else. Being a plane they couldn't identify is bad enough, how would they get away with saying it was a missile?

Even ATS saying it is outright flight 808 is strange.'
Theres only one vid and to accept its flight 808 you have to disscount the cameramans statement.
Cant remember the last time a UFO clip was debunked by accepting the pic as real but changing its location..

Originally posted by drphilxr
therefore no emp burst. ah well.

So you think we should still go ahead and Nuke China for these two 'attacks' on America?

reply to post by zorgon

Yeah notice how BRIGHT the trail gets as it goes higher and catches the sunlight?

Good proof its a jet contrail in the OP video [.quote]



You continually bring up the fact it should get brighter as it leaves earths shadow which is fair enough.
I hope its not a silly question but,
If the trail is very large and dense (as this one appears] then wouldn't one side be in its own shadow?
It does appear the cameraman is east of the event and therefore that could be so.

edit on 10-11-2010 by backinblack because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
here

dont know if this was posted but here.

well it's the same dude (Col. Lapan)
as all the other articles cited as the
Pentagon source. So nothing really
new there that I saw.

reply to post by backinblack


yea, for real its funny, I never seen skeptics flip flop like they did on ats over this story, hell when I first posted my first post this morning I thought everyone pretty much especially on ats thought it was a missile in the first place. Boy was I wrong. This thread from what I can read now has turned into troll bait. We have a few posters now baiting people into their own lil worlds over the lack of information now.

reply to post by boondock-saint


my bad i probably should have done some reading before posting that. Just saw it and posted. Is it not legit?

MOTF!

Originally posted by Budbot
CONFIRMED: US NAVY WAS TESTING MISSILE LAUNCHES OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA

From page 55.
"434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
...
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

www.nga.mil...

Finally.

INTERMISSION

I think after 132 pages it's definately intermission time:

Google Video Link

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
here

dont know if this was posted but here.

Nice report... I'm fairly satisfied it was a plane and a contrail.. We should give Phage an award or something for being so persistent and, tolerant.

I also like this part of the report linked above...

But the military's initial response left open other possibilities, like a US military or civilian launch of some kind.

In Moscow, Major General Alexander Vladimirov, vice president of Russia's board of military experts, told the Interfax news agency the television image "looks like the launch of a missile from a submarine."

"Most likely we are talking about the launch of a Trident-2 ballistic missile from an Ohio submarine," Vladimirov was quoted as saying.

"There is reason to believe this was an unsanctioned launch of a missile from a submarine. If this is so, then many questions arise about the condition of the US armed forces," he said.

Maybe the pentagon let this go for so long just to mess with their Russian counterparts?

Now that would be funny!

reply to post by Phage


Ya know Phage I consider you the word of reason here at ATS, However this pacticular event seems to ask alot more questions. I guess if you were my husband or (my protector) I would just agree with you and let it go. But for some reason this one has me still questioning what the heck that was. We all know there have been many situations that have been pushed under the rug, (for lack of a better term) through the years for good reasons. (National sucrity) And I understand that. But what I don't understand is why the government or as some say TPTB would get everyone into a tissy over a silly thing as a picture of an airplane which was taken at a certain angle that made it look like something else. I guess I get it, but I don't.
I teach fifth grade this year. I taught 4 grade for 8 years prior. I came onto this site because I wanted to understand where my kids were getting all this 2012 stuff they were asking about. Next year and the following years I will be following my class to their 8th grade graduations. I'm looking for true answers for them. I'm not a jerk. I'm all over the web and books to make sure I give them the best answers I can. I try my best to let them know that not everything you read or see on the internet is true. I find my job very hard sometimes,
Anyway, concerning this paticular incident, I myself am questioning the truthfulness of the reports I have heard over the past few days. I agree, sometimes the easiest explanation is ususally the right one. But like I said, this one just doesn't sit right with me. Would you have the time to enlighten me a bit more?

Please excuse spelling, I don't post much so I haven't figured out how to spellcheck at this time.

I must add that I do enjoy many of the other posts here. There are alot of good minds here, and I value their contributions to the site. Especially Puterman.

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by zorgon

 

Well after the first 12 hours and on about page 40 I said now they will confirm its a plane regardless..
They simply couldn't say anything else. Being a plane they couldn't identify is bad enough, how would they get away with saying it was a missile?

Even ATS saying it is outright flight 808 is strange.'
Theres only one vid and to accept its flight 808 you have to disscount the cameramans statement.
Cant remember the last time a UFO clip was debunked by accepting the pic as real but changing its location..

Wait for Obama to comeback and they will confirm it was a missile from (insert a country here).

So obvious to me. They let all the people wordwide speculate about it and do nothing to stop the rumors. US launched it, wait for the news to spread and Obama to comeback. Then they will finally admit it was a missile but from (insert a country here). But it was not.

US needs a war. If you don't have reasons to start one, you create a reason. The timing is right (looks like it's from Chinese or Iran, Obama out of the country, many country pi**** by the US fed), IT WILL LOOK REAL.

Only few days to wait until the "official" story and everyone will find that story plausible.

Originally posted by Mr. D

Originally posted by Budbot
CONFIRMED: US NAVY WAS TESTING MISSILE LAUNCHES OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA

From page 55.
"434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
...
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

www.nga.mil...

Finally.

So missile launches from 1400z monday..

Hey maybe they have a new missile disguised as a 757..Learnt that trick from ET...

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
here

dont know if this was posted but here.

That's fantastic! I love these quotes in particular:

"It's a jet plane contrail, obviously," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org."

and this is my fave:

"In Moscow, Major General Alexander Vladimirov, vice president of Russia's board of military experts, told the Interfax news agency the television image "looks like the launch of a missile from a submarine."
"Most likely we are talking about the launch of a Trident-2 ballistic missile from an Ohio submarine," Vladimirov was quoted as saying.
"There is reason to believe this was an unsanctioned launch of a missile from a submarine. If this is so, then many questions arise about the condition of the US armed forces," he said."

See, even the 'experts' are having the same "Missile-Airplane-Chicken-vs-Egg" point-counterpoint.

Funny!!!

Originally posted by mobtek

Originally posted by zerbot565

u.s "networks" was hacked ?

These networks are not connected to any external network, they are isolated internal systems only methinks

so the u.s has no "doomsday device" ,.

there "has" to be communications without human interaction meh thinks,

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by drphilxr
therefore no emp burst. ah well.

So you think we should still go ahead and Nuke China for these two 'attacks' on America?

Strange, i never urged anyone to nuke china. Nor would a chinese missile launch be a prelude to war,

despite our past (ie., bay of pigs); let's hope nation states have progressed beyond "M.A.D."

A) if this is a plane, we all talked a lot about nothing for days.

B) the 800 lb gorilla in the news world room is China's belligerent stance towards current
US economic policy, and for the chinese, economic war is very very serious.

C) the implications of a possible missile were too large to not talk about. that's what ATS is for!

Make your own inferences, missile or no missile, China has been outraged of late with

US fiscal irresponsibility and is far from being satisfied.

I never urged war, or condone it.

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by Mr. D

Originally posted by Budbot
CONFIRMED: US NAVY WAS TESTING MISSILE LAUNCHES OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA

From page 55.
"434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
...
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.

www.nga.mil...

Finally.

So missile launches from 1400z monday..

Hey maybe they have a new missile disguised as a 757..Learnt that trick from ET...

Whatever it was, whenever it was it is all just speculation. The U.S. is not the only
country in the world that doesn't disclose what goes on with the Military. Enough Said.

They are trying to pass cyber secutity legislation. Theirs the story of the 50 nukes and the problems they had there with the computers shutting down and what not. 2 differen't "missle" launches follow afterwards? The MSM plays its part in hyping the confusion. Now they can admit either to us, or to others in Washington that we need to pass the Cyber Security Bill that will be a government take over of the internet. Thats what I believe is going on.