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posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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While this video and narrator rail against the "official story" as being thin on verifiable facts, I find that this video is full of the same leaps of supposition. If this video demands the US government provided sources for every statement so fact checking can be done, so must the video.
Just because the narrator states in a very confident and snarky tone that all his conclusions are indeed facts, it doesn't make them any more verifiable.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Great job, keep posting good videos like this and ignore the professional debunkers, most of which are being paid to debate you. Their arguments are so childlike and feeble and most Americans now don't believe the official story and know they have been lied to. Any person with above room temperature IQ that truly looks at ALL the evidence quickly finds out the official story is pure garbage. But what do you expect from this new world order government we have - they lie about EVERYTHING. They love to lie to the sheeple in fact.

Make sure you spread the truth about 911 to every website you can and not just on this one though. Spread it to new people on facebook and of course tell everybody you can that you meet. Alex Jones has the #1 alternative news website on the planet for a reason. We don't believe the LIES anymore. Laugh at the debunkers but don't waste time with them. Instead of wasting your time with them, use that time to post that video on 10 other sites and go get 10 new friends on FB to share it with. That's what the powers that be don't want you to do. The debunkers are on ATS to waste time and confuse some of the newbies but it's not working at all anymore. The cat's out of the bag on false flags forever.

If everybody that is AWAKE to the lies of the new world order makes it a goal to go tell at least one new person EVERY DAY what is really going on, we win the info war. Google "wake up the planet" sometime and you'll see a video I made on this. peace



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 10:18 AM
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Look at this ----> HoloGram Fact's

And Then This ---- > 9/11 Hologreams
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Do your own homework.

Re Search - 9/11 holograms
edit on 13-10-2010 by HYADEAN2025 because: Fixed The links



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 11:31 AM
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Let me dissect this post for a bit, just to show a little bit of hypocrisy present in the argument.



Originally posted by GlennCanady
Great job, keep posting good videos like this and ignore the professional debunkers, most of which are being paid to debate you.


Well, this is an absolutely baseless assumption.


Their arguments are so childlike and feeble and most Americans now don't believe the official story and know they have been lied to. Any person with above room temperature IQ that truly looks at ALL the evidence quickly finds out the official story is pure garbage. But what do you expect from this new world order government we have - they lie about EVERYTHING. They love to lie to the sheeple in fact.


Childlike and feeble, two words that imply someone who refuses to listen and just throws a tantrum with no actual thinking involved. What was it you said before? "ignore the... debunkers."

Any person with an IQ above 75 or so. An IQ test which by the way measures how well you can take an IQ test (but that's my opinion on the matter). As it stands, my IQ was 133 last I checked when I was 12 years old.

And sheeple, a slang term used to describe people who just go with the flow, choosing to not think for themselves and just be driven around by the popular idea. Yeah, you're not going with the flow here at all. You scrutinize every piece of evidence you're shown, whether it is official or not... or is it possible you let discrepancies slide with many truther arguments?


Make sure you spread the truth about 911 to every website you can and not just on this one though. Spread it to new people on facebook and of course tell everybody you can that you meet.

Like a religion.

Alex Jones has the #1 alternative news website on the planet for a reason. We don't believe the LIES anymore. Laugh at the debunkers but don't waste time with them.

Like a bully.

Instead of wasting your time with them, use that time to post that video on 10 other sites and go get 10 new friends on FB to share it with.

Instead of finding the truth, spread the idea so much that people have to believe it. That's the most logical thing in the world to do. ~sarcasm


That's what the powers that be don't want you to do. The debunkers are on ATS to waste time and confuse some of the newbies but it's not working at all anymore. The cat's out of the bag on false flags forever.

By debunkers you mean individuals who don't blindly accept random unverified claims, I'm guessing? Or do you know every single one personally and have come to your conclusions based off of vigorous stalking of personal lives and records of interactions with the government?


If everybody that is AWAKE to the lies of the new world order makes it a goal to go tell at least one new person EVERY DAY what is really going on, we win the info war. Google "wake up the planet" sometime and you'll see a video I made on this. peace


So this is about convincing people that you're right, which means you must have an agenda and are being paid by the truth movement, right? I mean, no one spends so much time trying to convince other people of something unless they have an ulterior motive. After all, you DO know what happened on 9/11. What's the big deal about?
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edit on 13-10-2010 by Varemia because: fixed the quote boxes



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by GlennCanady
Make sure you spread the truth about 911 to every website you can and not just on this one though. Spread it to new people on facebook and of course tell everybody you can that you meet. Alex Jones has the #1 alternative news website on the planet for a reason. We don't believe the LIES anymore. Laugh at the debunkers but don't waste time with them. Instead of wasting your time with them, use that time to post that video on 10 other sites and go get 10 new friends on FB to share it with. That's what the powers that be don't want you to do. The debunkers are on ATS to waste time and confuse some of the newbies but it's not working at all anymore. The cat's out of the bag on false flags forever.


Yes, by all means, please post this everywhere you go.... that's what cured me of my mental deficiency! The more people laughed at me, the more I realized I didn't have the facts on my side.

Here are three questions I couldn't answer back when I took this schtick seriously:

1. Where are all the people from the planes?

2. Why would those people from the planes have called families and authorities and told them there were arab men holding the plane hostage?

Here is a partial list of those who responded to and/or investigated the events:

1,500 people who worked the flight 93 crash scene
40,000 people who worked the piles at Ground Zero
55 FBI Evidence Response Teams at Fresh Kills in New York
7,000+ FBI Agents
8,000+ people who worked the scene at the Pentagon
ACE Bermuda Insurance
AEMC Construction
AIG Insurance
Air Traffic Control System Command Center in Washington
Alexandria VA Fire & Rescue
Allianz Global Risks
American Airlines
American Concrete Institute
American Institute of Steel Construction
American Red Cross
Applied Biosystems Inc.
Applied Research Associates
Arlington County Emergency Medical Services
Arlington County Fire Department
Arlington County Sheriff's Department
Arlington VA Police Department
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Armed Forces Institute of Technology Federal Advisory Committee
ARUP USA
Atlantic Heydt Inc.
Bechtel
Berlin Fire Department
Big Apple Wrecking
Blanford & Co.
Bode Technology Group
Bovis Inc.
Building and Construction Trades Council
Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
C-130H crew in D.C. & Shanksville
Cal Berkeley Engineering Dept.
California Incident Management Team
Carter Burgess Engineering
Celera Genomics
Centers for Disease Control
Central City Fire Department
Central Intelligence Agency
Cleveland Airport control tower
Columbia University Department of Civil Engineering and Engineering Mechanics
Congressional Joint Intelligence Committee
Consolidated Edison Company
Construction Technologies Laboratory
Controlled Demolitions Inc.
Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat
Counterterrorism and Security Group
CTL Engineering
D.H. Griffin Wrecking Co. Inc.
DeSimone Consulting Engineers
Dewhurst MacFarlane &Partners
DiSalvo Ericson Engineering
District of Columbia Fire & Rescue
DOD Honor Guard, Pentagon
D'Onofrio Construction
E-4B National Airborne Operations Center crews
Edwards and Kelcey Engineering
Engineering Systems, Inc.
Environmental protection Agency
Exponent Failure Analysis Associates
EYP Mission CriticalFacilities
Fairfax County Fire & Rescue
Falcon 20 crew in PA
Family members who received calls from victims on the planes
FBI Evidence Recovery Teams
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Insurance Co.
FEMA 68-Person Urban Search and Rescue Teams: Arizona Task Force 1, California Task Force 1, California Task Force 3, California Task Force 7, Colorado Task Force 1, Fairfax Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 2, Maryland Task Force 1, Massachusetts Task Force 1, Metro Dade/Miami, Nebraska Task Force 1, New Mexico Task Force 1, New York Task Force 1, Pennsylvania Task Force 1, Tennessee Task Force 1, Texas Task Force 1, Utah Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 2, Washington Task Force 1
FEMA Disaster Field Office
FEMA Emergency Response Team
FEMA Urban Search and Rescue Incident Support Team-Advanced 3
Fire Department of New York
Fort Myer Fire Department
French Urban Search & Rescue Task Force
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department
Gateway Demolition
Gene Code Forensics
Georgia Tech Engineering Dept.
Gilsanz Murray Steficek LLP
GMAC Financing
Goldstein Associates Consulting Engineers
Guy Nordenson Associates
HAKS Engineers
Hampton-Clarke Inc.
HHS National Medical Response Team
HLW International Engineering
Hooversville Rescue Squad.
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department
Hoy Structural Services
Hughes Associates, Inc
Hugo Neu Schnitzer East
hundreds of ironworkers, some of whom built the WTC
Hundreds of New York City Police Department Detectives
Industrial Risk Insurers
Institute for Civil Infrastructure Systems
International Association of Fire Chiefs
International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14 & 15
J.R. Harris & Company
Johnstown-Cambria County Airport Authority
Karl Koch Steel Consulting Inc.
KCE Structural Engineers
Koch Skanska
Koutsoubis, Alonso Associates
Laboratory Corp. of America
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Leslie E. Robertson Associates
LIRo Engineering
Listie Volunteer Fire Company
Lockwood Consulting
M.G. McLaren Engineering
Masonry Society
Mazzocchi Wrecking Inc.
Metal Management Northeast
Metropolitan Airport Authority Fire Unit
Miami-Dade Urban Search & Rescue
Military District of Washington Search & Rescue Team
Montgomery County Fire & Rescue
Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers
Murray Engineering
Myriad Genetic Laboratories Inc.
National Center for Biotechnology Informatics
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
National Council of Structural Engineers Associations
National Disaster Medical System
National Emergency Numbering Association
National Fire Protection Association
National Guard in D.C., New York, and Pennsylvania
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
National Institutes of Health Human Genome Research Institute
National Law Enforcement and Security Institute
National Military Command Center
National Reconnaissance Office
National Response Center
National Science Foundation Division of Civil and Mechanical Systems
National Security Agency
National Transportation Safety Board
National Wrecking
Natural Hazards Research and Applications Information Center
New Jersey State Police
New York City Department of Buildings WTC Task Force
New York City Department of Design and Construction
New York City Department of Environmental Protection
New York City Office of Emergency Management
New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
New York City Police Department Aviation Unit
New York City Police Department Emergency Services Unit
New York Daily News
New York Flight Control Center
New York Newsday
New York Port Authority Construction Board
New York Port Authority Police
New York State Emergency Management Office
New York State Police Forensic Services
New York Times
North American Aerospace Defense Command
Northeast Air Defense Sector Commanders and crew
Numerous bomb-sniffing dogs
Numerous Forensic Anthropologists
Numerous Forensic Dentists
Numerous Forensic Pathologists
Numerous Forensic Radiologists
NuStats
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Office of Emergency Preparedness
Office of Strategic Services
Orchid Cellmark
Parsons Brinckerhoff Engineering
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection
Pennsylvania Department of Health and Human Services
Pennsylvania Region 13 Metropolitan Medical Response Group
Pennsylvania State Funeral Directors Association
Pennsylvania State Police
Pentagon Defense Protective Service
Pentagon Helicopter Crash Response Team
Pentagon Medical Staff
Pentagon Renovation Team
Phillips & Jordan, Inc.
Port of New York and New Jersey Authority
Pro-Safety Services
Protec
Public Entity Risk Institute
Purdue University Engineering Dept.
Robert Silman Associates Structural Engineers
Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc
Rosenwasser/Grossman Consulting Engineers
Royal SunAlliance/Royal Indemnity
SACE Prime Power Assessment Teams
SACE Structural Safety Engineers and Debris Planning and Response Teams
Salvation Army Disaster Services
several EPA Hazmat Teams
several FBI Hazmat Teams
several Federal Disaster Medical Assistance Teams
several Federal Disaster Mortuary (DMORT) Teams
Severud Associates Consulting Engineers
Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company
Silverstein Properties
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger Engineers
Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP
Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire
Society of Fire Protection Engineers
Somerset Ambulance Association
Somerset County Coroner's Office
Somerset County Emergency Management Agency
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department
St. Paul/Travelers Insurance
State of Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency
Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (SEI/ASCE)
Structural Engineers Association of New York
Superstructures Engineering
Swiss Re America Insurance
Telephone operators who took calls from passengers in the hijacked planes
Teng & Associates
Thornton-Tomasetti Group, Inc.
TIG Insurance
Tokio Marine & Fire
Transportation Safety Administration
Tully Construction
Twin City Fire Insurance
Tylk Gustafson Reckers Wilson Andrews Engineering
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Underwriters Laboratories
Union Wrecking
United Airlines
United States Air National Guard
United States Fire Administration
United States Secret Service
United Steelworkers of America
University of Sheffield Fire Engineering Research
US Army Reserves of Virginia Beach Fairfax County and Montgomery County
US Army’s Communications-Electronics Command
US Department of Defense
US Department of Justice
US Department of State
Virginia Beach Fire Department
Virginia Department of Emergency Management
Virginia State Police
Vollmer Associates Engineers
Washington Post
Weeks Marine
Weidlinger Associates
Weiskopf & Pickworth Engineering
Westmoreland County Emergency Management Agency
Whitney Contracting
Willis Group Holdings
WJE Structural Engineers
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
World Trade Center security staff
XL Insurance
Yonkers Contracting
York International
Zurich Financial
Zurich Re Risk Engineering

Much more at the link

3. Are you willing to call all those people liars, or are they in on the cover up too?

Thanks for reading.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 11:46 AM
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What in the WORLD are those video links supposed to imply? To try to link a gimmicky studio trick to 9-11 is one of the most misleading and insane things ever. Hundreds of people saw the planes hit the building with their own eyes, live and in person. This is the stuff that gives "truthers" zero credibility.

Don't forget that its also a lot easier to doctor videos in post-production to make it seem like something else was going on to create the illusion of a conspiracy than to implement a new technology in real time that is meant to mislead millions on live tv. Videos posted on youtube with little artifacts and blurrs called out have zero credibility.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by SusanForKucinich
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.....however, I read an in depth analysis of the Barbara Olsen story and it was determined that the airplane she was (supposedly) flying in did NOT have back seat phones.....

pilotsfor911truth.org...


To you, and others on here who have made the same claim, it has obviously passed you by that David Ray Griffin himself finally acknowledged his error in making the claim that there were no seat-back phones on AA77 :-

911blogger.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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I dont believe all those people on your list "are in the know" they are just people doing their everday jobs.
Perhaps people within those companies do have questions,but for one reason or another,wont ask.
Maybe out of fear of losing their jobs,or maybe worse,who knows.

And I dont thiink anyone is clearly stating they KNOW who was behind 9/11,which is why there are so many questions.Which is also why there is a need for a new investigation.
But there are many people out there who have asked questions,so you like lists huh?

Ok........

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
--------------------------------------
Michael M. Andregg (FM)
Domestic intelligence, Justice and Peace Studies, St. Thomas University, St. Paul, MN
Mark Bamberger, Ph.D. (FM)

Professor of Geology and Environmental Sciences, Miami University and Capital University
Kevin Barrett (FM)

Folklore, UW-Madison; Director, Khidria, Inc.; Founding Member, Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth, mujca.com

Joe E. Adams (AM)

Active American
Michael Allen (AM)

Doctoral Candidate
Department of Education
University of New Hampshire
Garry Anaquod (AM)

Sessional instructor, First Nations University of Canada
Gary Anderson (AM)

Plant molecular genetics, Indiana University
James Arft (AM)

America First Party
Gwendolyn Atwood (AM)

Clinical psychologist, Ed.D., Harvard University
John C. Austin (AM)

Juris Doctorate; Music publishing; Radio broadcasting
Steve Baer (AM)

Solar energy, Manufacturing
Whitney Baron (AM)

Philosophy, Psychology, Protest Music
Kenneth Bauman (AM)

Law enforcement, Explosives detection, Railroad detective (retired), Author of "Leaves of Lavendered Lily"
Mark L. Beauchamp, MD (AM)

Physician
Steve Bishop (AM)

Information Technology
John Blacker (AM)

Physical systems
Renewable energy
Science correspondent

Ray Bock (AM)

Systems analyst (ret). BA Economics and MA in Education
Len Bracken (AM)

Credentialed Journalist, Graduate of GWU's Elliott School ofInternational Affairs, Author of "Shadow Government: 9/11 and State Terror"
Jordan Brewster (AM)

Conspiracies
James Roger Brown (AM)

Director, The Sociology Center; Congressional Evidence BookAuthor
D'Anne Burley (AM)

Talk Show Host, Truthradio,RBNLIVE.COM
Bill Carlson (AM)

Webmaster, groups.yahoo.com/group/wrh/
Don Childs (AM)

Aviation Mechanic
Air Transport Pilot

Thom Clark (AM)

Registered geologist, Environmental geologist
Mike Cogan (AM)

Computer professional
Muhammad Columbo (AM)

Graduate Engineer electronics wide industrial experience
Michael Copass (AM)

Microbiology, Vaccinology, Immunology
Patrick B. Cottrell (AM)

Graduate of the University of Notre Dame (Electrical Engineering) and Saint Anselm College (Liberal Arts)
Judy Cunningham (AM)

Health Education, Counseling and Rehabilitation
Rose Davis (AM)

Publisher, Indian Voices
Steve De'ak (AM)

Network professional
George-Luis Dewey (AM)

Publisher of Liberty Steward, a Bill of Rights e-magazine
Thaddeus Dombrowski (AM)

Mathematics, Computer science, Software engineering
Karel Donk (AM)

Multimedia and Web Design
Eric Douglas (AM)

New York City architect Chair of the Independent Peer ReviewCommitte for the NIST WTC Reports at nistreview.org
Curtis T. Dunlap (AM)

Weather forecaster, Global Hawk technology
John Ekonomou (AM)

Attorney at Law
Ronald Feintech (AM)

Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska, Licensed Psychologist

Scott Fenton (AM)

Physics, Chemistry, Information Technology
Joel Ferrell (AM)

Pilot, Aeronautical engineer, physics911.net/spine.htm
Paul Fortunato (AM)

Graphic designer
Robert Fritzius (AM)

Electrical Engineering, Radar and telecommunications
Craig T. Furlong (AM)

Quantitative Methods, Business Administration
Cathy Garger (AM)

Freelance Writer, Motivational Speaker
Kenyon Gibson (AM)

Former US Naval Intelligence, author of "Common Sense: A Study of the Bushes, the CIA and the Suspicions Regarding 9/11" (2003, in Arabic)and of "Hemp for Victory" (2006)
Gordon Ginn (AM)

Motives behind attack
Sean Glazier (AM)

Software engineering
Donald Theodore Grahn (AM)

TV Producer, "All-ways Pursuing Truth", Public Access TV, Seattle
Rick Guerard (AM)

Journeyman ironworker, Industrial maintenance
Dan Hamburg (AM)

Former US Representative; Author, Headwaters Forest Act; ExecutiveDirector, VOTE Action Committee
Mia Hamel (AM)

Broadcaster
David Hastings (AM)

Boilermaker, Shipbuilder, Blacksmith Forger
Jesse Hemingway (AM)

Author of "Friendly Fire on Holy Grounds"
Rodger Herbst (AM)

777 and 787 Aeronautics, Flight Controls and Simulation Engineering
Eric Hermanson (AM)

Engineering Physics, Nuclear Engineering, Software Architect

John Herold (AM)

Studio Art
Computer Consultant
Communication Studies

T. Mark Hightower (AM)

BS, MS Chemical Engineering
Member of AIChE (American institute for Chemical Engineers) & AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics)

Michael Himes (AM)

Paralegal, witness to 9/11

Jim Hogue (AM)

Radio talk show host, WGDR in Vermont
James F. Holwell (AM)

Mathematics, Communication
Nick Hull (AM)

Particle Physics, geocities.com/CapitolHill/
Wade Inganamort (AM)

Writer, Webmaster, Awoken Research Group
Nick Irving (AM)

Audio Engineeer
Website Manager
Musician (singer, songwriter)

Richard T. Jeroloman (AM)

International law; Intellectual property; Electronic engineering
Debbie Johnson (AM)

Writer, Editor, Proofreader
Doug Kabourek (AM)

WTC album, Singer and songwriter
Klaus Kapr (AM)

Education
Public Administration
International Relations

Malcom Kirkman (AM)

LLB Hons (Law degree with honours, UK)
Peter Kirsh (AM)

Forensic pathologist
Robert Klassen (AM)

Editor, Freelance writer, Critical care respiratory therapy
Rebecca R. Kline (AM)

Teacher, Journalist
Kent Knudson (AM)

Systems Engineering
Paul Landis (AM)

Industrial engineering, Author of "A Real 9/11 Commission"
Jerry Leaphart (AM)

Activist lawyer, Amateur Philosopher, Quaker peacenik
Greg Lemon (AM)

Animation, Simulation, Special Effects
John Leonard (AM)

Publicist, linguist and Publisher, Master of BusinessAdministration

Jerry Liebler (AM)

Electrical Engineering, Metal fabrication and welding
Davidson Loehr (AM)

Minister
Stevan Douglas Looney (AM)

Attorney
Wayne Madsen (AM)

Investigative journalist and syndicated columnist, a formercommunications security analyst with NSA and a former intelligence officerin the USMC and a Senior Fellow of the Electronic Privacy Information Center
Michael Maguire (AM)

Mechanical engineering, Aeronatutical engineering, Prognostic Health Monitoring
Gene Maier (AM)

Corporate controller
Arno Mansouri (AM)

Publisher at Editions Demi-Lune in Paris, France
Eric Martineau (AM)

VP of Web Operations
David Masdon (AM)

Electrical Engineering
Thomas J. Mattingly (AM)

9/11 Literary Agent Member, McClendon Group, The National Press Club
Brad Mayeux (AM)

RF Engineering, 911review.org
John McCarthy (AM)

johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com
David McGowan (AM)

Author and lecturer
Jack McLamb (AM)

Founder, American Citizens & Lawmen Association
Publisher, Aid & Abet Police/Military Newsletter
Board Member, Police Against the New World Order
Scott Meredith (AM)

Theoretical Linguistics, High technology 21 years
Peter Meyer (AM)

Computational physics, computer programmer, software developer, creator of the Serendipity web site (serendipity.li) and of the Hermetic Systems web site (hermetic.ch)
Melissa Miles-Wallace (AM)

Environmental Biologist
Paul Andrew Mitchell (AM)

Federal witness; Criminal investigator; Private attorney general
Dennis "galen" Mitrzyk (AM)

Physics and math, Business administration
Max J. Mizejewski (AM)

Retired US Army combat veteran. Served as helicopter pilot in Viet Nam
Tony Morgan (AM)

BA, teaching in Japan
Foster Morrison (AM)

Forecasting, Dynamic Modeling
Jeff Moskin (AM)

Private pilot, Electronics engineer, Certified flight instructor
Ted Muga (AM)

Naval aviator; Commercial pilot; Structural engineering
Shane Mulligan (AM)

Philosophy, Political Theory, International Relations, InternationalDevelopment
Nori J. Muster (AM)

Author
Nicholas Newton (AM)

Astrophysics, Simulation Models
David A. Nolan (AM)

Writing, Research, Web Development
Chris North (AM)

Police Officer, London Metropolitan Police/New, Scotland Yard, retired, Homeland Security/Counter, Terrorism/Civil Defence
RC Oliver, Jr. (AM)

Chief Engineer
Alfons Olszewski (AM)

Webmaster, freedomisforeverybody.org
Ralph Omholt (AM)

Former airline captain; home.comcast.net...
Larry Patriarca (AM)

Aviation structural mechanic, entrepreneur, Navy service
Lawrence Patriarca (AM)

Organizer of the Central Mass 9/11 Truth Alliance group
Scott Piper (AM)

Documentary Filmmaker
Scott Piper (AM)

Physics
Joe Plummer (AM)

StopTheLie.com
Lori Price (AM)

General Manager, Citizens For Legitimate Government; Writer/editor, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
Benjamin Pritchard (AM)

Software Engineer, 911TruthEmergence.com
Michael Provost (AM)

Independent film maker
Kevin Quirk (AM)

Author of "A Writer's Eye", Former journalist

Carter W. Rae (AM)

Biology, Chemistry, Dentistry
Craig Ranke (AM)

9/11 researcher/activist
Guy Razer (AM)

Lieutenant Colonel, USAF Retired
Paul Robins (AM)

Electronics, Aerospace products
Rein A. Roos (AM)

Airborne Dust and Aerosol Specialist
Gordon Ross (AM)

Mechanical engineering, Production engineering
Adam Rosszay (AM)

B.S. in Computer Engineering
Harlan Ryerson (AM)

Blacksmith
Vincent Salandria (AM)

Attorney at Law
JFK investigator
Civil Rights Activist

Michael Sansone (AM)

Master of Arts in English, Film and Media Studies
Michael Schmidt (AM)

Project engineer, Project manager, Highway construction
Daniel Schnizing (AM)

Author
E. Martin Schotz (AM)

Psychiatrist, Citizen Historian
Val Scott (AM)

General manager, Executive director, Chief executive officer,Labor, management, employee organizations
Keith Shannon (AM)

Web design, Hardware/software troubleshooting
Rick Siegel (AM)

911eyewitness.com, 911eyewitness.com/truth
Gunter Skupin (AM)

Audio engineer, computer engineer, volunteer firefighter
Neil Slade (AM)

film/video maker, author, artist, musical composer, concertperformer
Jimmy Smith (AM)

Communications Engineering
Tom Spellman (AM)

Civil engineering, architecture, non-profits, activism
Leonard Spencer (AM)

Twin Towers Attack, The Pentagon Attack, serendipity.li
Donald E. Stahl (AM)

MA in philosophy
Jacob G. Stansbury, Jr. (AM)

FSLIC and FDIC; members.cox.net/damor1/
Scott Star (AM)

Senior Digital Imaging Specialist
Stephen M. St. John (AM)

Author, An Eight-Part Peace Proposal for Greater Jerusalem;
Open Letters about 9/11 to the Attorney General of the USA
Michael B. Mukasey; web site: www.show-the-house.com...
Rob Steinhofer (AM)

Local Milwaukee Grassroots Contact Person for 911Truth.org,Local Milwaukee Coordinator for MUJCA.net (Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliancefor 911 Truth)
Harry Stottle (AM)

Philosopher, Author, Computer Consultant, Inventor. IT Directorof the Codel Project. Specialist in authentication and related issues.
Shaun D. Taulbee, MOB, MA (AM)

Masters of Organizational Behavior
Gary Ryan Taylor (AM)

Videographer, Electronic media
Jörgen Thorlund (AM)

Attorney, Sweden
Coco Tralla (AM)

Writer, Speaker, Publisher, Distributor
Paul Tuffery (AM)

Film maker, Videographer, Computer technician
Tom Tvedten (AM)

Family Physician; Medical School instructor; Arkansas 9/11 Truth contact
H. Chris Videll (AM)

Accountant, Financial analyst
Jack White (AM)

Photoanalyst
David Whyte (AM)

Psychology
Sociology
Politics

Edgar Williams (AM)

Statistics, Computer Science, Database Management
Larry Winfrey (AM)

Network engineer
Judson Witham (AM)

Civil Rights Laws; High Rise/Mid Rise/Low Rise Construction/demolition
Ian Woods (AM)

Publisher and Editor of Global Outlook (the Magazine of 9/11Truth); president of S.I.F.T. - Skeptics Inquiry For Truth (aka 911inquiry.org)
Wayne Young (AM)

BS Civil Engineering

Peter Adams (SM)
Economics, Chemical Engineering, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
David Andersson (SM)

Gothenburg International Bioscience Business School, Sweden
Trevor Anderson (SM)

Music, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Soumia Armstrong (SM)

Psychology, Telecommunications
Asif Ali Baloch (SM)

Seeking masters of environmental engineering degree at the Mehran University of Engineering and Technology
Daniel Bentham (SM)

University of Lincoln in England

Adam Betts (SM)

Psychology, University of Connecticut
Marc Bogonovich (SM)

Biology, Indiana University
James Booker (SM)

History; University of York, Toronto
Danielle Celeste (SM)

Psychology, History and Politics, Propaganda and its dissemination
Michael Corkery (SM)

Undergraduate at the University of NH
Christopher Cornell (SM)

Southern Connecticut State University, Political Science with a minor in Sociology
Susan DeKom (SM)

Human Services, Notre Dame
Evan C. Ekstrand (SM)

History major, Kent State University
Alan Ellertson (SM)

Criminology and Criminal Justice, Iowa State University
Kristopher J Floyd (SM)

Political Science, San Antonio College
Bryan Focht (SM)

German, Electrical engineering, Oregon State University
Shawn C. Foster (SM)

Computers; Industrial maintenance; Metropolitan Community Colleges, Kansas City
Jake Gaeta (SM)

Business, Political Science, College of the Redwoods
Daniel D. German (SM)

Student scholar, UNC
Matthew T. Gibson (SM)

Education, History, Southeast Missouri State University, CapeGirardeau
Carl Hagmann (SM)

Government, Behavioral science, Franklin and Marshall College
Nuzi Haneef (SM)

Doctoral Student, Computer Science, George Washington University, Washington DC, "Grassroots Contact" for Minnesota on the 911Truth.org website"
Zachary D. Haupin (SM)

Compute science, Indiana Univesity of Pennsyvania
Travis Irvine (SM)

Video production, Ohio University
David Kemp (SM)

Computer Science; Assumption University; Bangkok, Thailand
Amanda Kiser (SM)

Sociology, Women's Studies, Texas A&M University
Andrew M. Leblanc (SM)

History and French; The College of Wooster
Adam Letalik (SM)

Economics, Psychology, University of British Columbia
Tony Frank Lin (SM)

University of Florida
Josh Litt (SM)

Government; International politics; George Mason University
Michael McCabe (SM)

Philosophy/Journalism, William Paterson University, Wayne NJ
Christine McMahon (SM)

Sociology, Bloomsburg University, Pennsylvania
Brian Mecham (SM)

Business, Salt Lake Community College, Utah, Webmaster 911TruthSeekers.org
Atilio Medina (SM)

Information technology, Brigham Young University
Kyle Michelson (SM)

Engineering, University of Delaware
Rufus Middleton (SM)

Dentistry student
Chris Morganti (SM)

TAFE (College); 911physics.co.nr
Jonathan Andrew Norton (SM)

Human geography, Political science, Simon Fraser University
Kathleen Pacheco (SM)

Metropolitan Community College
Pat Patterson (SM)

Indiana University majoring in Near Eastern Languages and Cultures
Mark Peters (SM)

Entrepreneurship/Marketing, Temple University, Fox School of Business, Pennsylvania
Jason Phelan (SM)

Communications and journalism, Griffith University, Australia
Samantha Playford (SM)

History, University of Reading
John J. Poillucci, RN (SM)

Masters degree program at Framingham State College in Massachusetts
Brian Porter (SM)

Computer Science, Schoolcraft College, Michigan
Rick Rajter (SM)

Materials Science and Engineering, Emerging and Fundamental Science, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Benjamin Rayle (SM)

Student at N.C. State University
Clarke Ries (SM)

Journalism, University of Victoria
Ryan Rodrigues (SM)

Social Sciences; Columbia University
Matthew Ray Ruggles (SM)

Performing Arts, Biology, Western Michigan University
Micah Saichek (SM)

Chemistry, Salt Lake Community College, Utah
Chris Seeley (SM)

Allegheny College
Ben Seeling (SM)

University of Wisconsin, River Falls
Alan Shanyinde-McCluskey (SM)

English Literature, Nottingham University, UK
Stephen Silvestri (SM)

English/Politics
Terry M. Simmons II (SM)

Political Science, Northern Kentucky University
Jason Smith (SM)

Environmental Engineering, University at Buffalo
Joshua Smith (SM)

Space Studies, American Military University, West Virginia
Avn Sturm (SM)

Business admin; Political science; International relations
Joshua Warren (SM)

Graphic design, Computer programs
Danny Weston (SM)

Politics, International relations, University of Sheffield, UK
Solomon Wilhelm (SM)

Communications, University of Toledo in Ohio
Aaron Williams (SM)

Philosophy, Texas A & M
Michael Zebuhr (SM)

Bioengineering, Clemson University

Gary Allen (SA)

Software Engineer
Greg Bacon (SA)

Firefighter Retired
Fred van Barneveld (SA)

Angela Bedolfe (SA)

Adrian Buck (SA)

Associates degree
Maureen Carr (SA)

Accounting
Veronica Chapman (SA)

Christopher Condon (SA)

Entrepreneur
Michael Cox (SA)

Jon Davis (SA)

Home builder; Home designer
Chris Dickinson (SA)

Theologian, Switzerland
Frederick "Rick" Doty (SA)

Electronics, Construction

Dr. Michael Ellison (SA)

Veneela Ellyias (SA)

Comparative world religions
John Erdody (SA)

Residential Painter
Doug Greene (SA)

Physics, Computer science, Gardening
Barry Gunderson (SA)

Machinist
Rajnita Gupta (SA)

Intern, Princeton University
Michael Himes (SA)

Paralegal in NYC
Ronnie Hunt (SA)

Realtor/Loan Officer
Josephine H. Johnson (SA)

Museum Docent
Eddie Jones (SA)

Musician
Lauren Julien (SA)

Contractor
Theodor Karaboikis (SA)

Sofia Kostos (SA)

Author, Modern Greek Historian
Carl Lambert (SA)

Vendor, Weightloss Products
Andrew Larsen (SA)

Environmental Engineer, Songwriter, Musician
Dennis Lawrence (SA)

Estate Planning
Shiloh Logan (SA)

Constitution Party
Sam Lwin (SA)

Software support
Lisa K Maloney (SA)

Worked near WTC
Andrew Marshall (SA)

Speaker, Activist
John Munter (SA)

Airline Reservation Agent
Bluey Morgan (SA)

Musician, Music Teacher, [email protected] e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it
Jim Morgan (SA)

John Morris (SA)

Electrical designer
Bob Nance (SA)

Doctor of Chiropractic
Matthew Naus (SA)

Educator
Wendy Newhall (SA)

Brookfield, MA
Leona Olds (SA)

Jenny Ohara (SA)

John O'Neill (SA)

Frederic Orr (SA)

Registered pharmacist
Mary Lee Orr (SA)

Language arts
Zeri Ort (SA)

School Teacher
Jeffrey W. Pappert (SA)

Senior Circuit Board Designer
Christiane Pistor (SA)

Don Plummer (SA)

Small business owner
Patrick Pulliam (SA)

John Reilly (SA)

Veterans Employment Counselor, Vietnam Vet, Songwriter
Graham Richardson (SA)

Activist, Delivery driver
Annie Robbins (SA)

Artist
Steve Rudner (SA)

Ray "Titus" Sanborn (SA)

Combat veteran, Mendofornia Town Action Group
Noguns Sheehan (SA)

Artist, Rainbow woman, Counter-cultural beader
Douglas Aaron Scott (SA):

Activist, Flight attendant (retired)
Sharon Smith (SM)

Teacher
Mechanic
Researcher

Saab Siddiqui (SA)

Software Engineer
David Slesinger (SA)

Activist
Rene Stofflett (SA)

Educational Assessment and Science Education
Brenda Stouffer (SA)

Concerned citizen
Jeff Tanzer (SA)

Musician
Dwight Thomas (SA)

Musician
John M. Uhlich (SA)

Nadine Vesel (SA)

9/11 researcher
Andrew Lowe Watson (SA)

Musical Composer
Steven Weathers (SA)

Retail industry, Science vs. pseudo-science
Don White (SA)

Software Engineer, Linux/Unix
Robert Winston (SA)

Medical Oncologist/Hematologist
Philip J. Berg, Esq. (FM)

Attorney at Law, Former Deputy Attorney General, former candidate for Governor, Lt. Governor, and U.S. Senate from Pennsylvania, whose website, 911forthetruth.com, covers the RICO lawsuit that is pending against Bush, Cheney and 53 other Defendantsin Federal Court, Southern District of New York
Tracy Blevins (FM)

Bioengineering, Rice University
Robert M. Bowman (FM)

Former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space Defense Programin both Republican and Democratic administrations, and a former Air ForceLieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions
Robert S. Boyer (FM)

Philosophy; Mathematics; Computer Science; University of Texas,Austin
Clare Brandabur (FM)

Assistant Professor of English Literature at Dogus University in Istanbul
Joseph G. Buchman, Ph.D. (FM)

Associate Professor of Marketing, Adams State College
Andreas von Buelow (FM)

Former assistant German defense minister, director of the GermanSecret Service, minister for research and technology, and member of Parliamentfor 25 years
Don Bustion (FM)

Attorney, Adjunct Professor, Southern Arkansas University
John Bylsma (FM)

French language and culture
William A. Cook (FM)

Professor of English, University of La Verne, Author of "Tracking Deception: Bush Mid-East Policy"
Richard Curtis (FM)

Dr. Curtis is an Adjunct Professor of Philosophy at several Seattle area colleges.
Davidsson, Elias (FM)

9/11 investigator
Human Rights Activist
International Affairs
Public International Law

Joseph Diaferia (FM)

Political Science and History, State University and City University,New York
Albert Dragstedt (FM)

Classics and Philosophy, St. Mary's College, Oakland, CA
Mike Earl-Taylor (FM)

Criminal Profiling, Investigative and Forensic Psychology,Rhodes University, South Africa
Ted Elden (FM)

Architect, Communicator
Constance Eichenlaub (FM)

Classical Languages
Comparative Literature
James H. Fetzer (FM)

Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, a former Marine Corps officer, author or editor of more than 20 books, and founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Marcus Ford (FM)

Humanities, NAU
Ruth Frankenberg (FM)

American Studies, Cultural Studies, Author of four books
Paul D. Haemig, Ph.D. (FM)

Department of Biology and Environment, Kalmar University, Sweden
Bill Hammel (FM)

Ph.D. Physics at U. Wisconsin, Milwaukee (ret.)
Bruce R. Henry (FM)

Mathematics, Worcester State College
James Hill (FM)

Intellectual property attorney, Radiology, USC School of Medicine
Joel S. Hirschhorn (FM)

Metallurgical Engineering
Materials Engineering
Environmental Education
Political Analysis
Public Policy
Jim Hogue (FM)

MS Theatre, Taught at Community College of Vermont
Robert G. Horn (FM)

Former full-time faculty Department of Pathology, at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine
Charles Hux (FM)

Associate Professor, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Mehmet Inan (FM)

Electronics
Industrial Engineering

Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs (FM)

Former Dean of Education, Oglala Lakota College and currently professor of educational leadership at Fielding Graduate University and at Northern Arizona University
Aaron Jones (FM)

Computer Engineering at The University of Illinois - Chicago
Michael Keefer (FM)

English and theatre, University of Guelph
Stephen F. LeRoy (FM)

Professor of Economics, University of California, Santa Barbara
Davidson Loehr (FM)

Theology; Philosophy of science; Philosophy of religion
Catherine Lowther (FM)

Goddard College
Jim Marrs (FM)

Author, Researcher, 9/11, JFK, more
Richard McGinn (FM)

Associate Professor Emeritus of Linguistics and Southeast AsianStudies, Ohio University. Former chair of Linguistics (10 years) and Directorof Southeast Asian Studies (4 years) at Ohio University
John McMurtry, Ph.D. (FM)

Professor of Philosophy, University Professor Emeritus Elect,University of Guelph, Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, and the authorof six books dealing with public policy issues
Scott Meredith (FM)

Oriental languages; Theoretical linguistics; Computationallinguistics
Robert Merrill (FM)

Literature and Humanities; Maryland Institute College of Art;Editor, Maisonneuve Press
Donald C. Meserlian (FM)

Forensic engineering
Mechanical engineering
Citizens' Commission Report on 9/11

Ted Micceri (FM)

Statistical Research, Planning and Analysis, University ofSouth Florida
Raymond Munro (FM)

Professor of Theatre, Clark University
Richard C. Murray (FM)

Sociology, George Williams College, Downers Grove, Illinois
Jesus Nieto (FM)

College of Education, San Diego State University
Daniel Orr (FM)

Professor Emeritus, Department of Economics, University ofIllinois
Matthew Orr (FM)

Population Biology, Evolution and Ecology, University of Oregon"Is the War on Terror Fraudulent?"
John Pepper (FM)

Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of Arizona
Dale Allen Pfeiffer (FM)

Novelist
Geologist
Science Journalist
Joseph M. Phelps (FM)

MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers
Jean-Pierre Petit (FM)

Aeronautics, astrophysics, engineering
Diana Ralph (FM)

Associate Professor Carleton University School of Social Work.Author of Work and Madness: The Rise of Community Psychiatry
Joseph Raso (FM)

Political Science, Comparative and International Politics,State-sponsored terrorism, resourcespc.org
Morgan Reynolds (FM)

Professor of Economics Emeritus, Texas A&M University; former Chief Economist,
Department of Labor, Bush Administration; Director of the Criminal Justice
Center and Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, Dallas
Gera Rosy (FM)

Sociology, taught at University of Texas at El Paso and Metropolitan State College in Denver
Christian Schladetsch (FM)

Computer scientist, simulation systems; Lectured at Univ of Queensland
James G. Smart, Ph.D. (FM)

U. S. History Asst. Prof., University of Chattanooga, TN then Assoc Prof, Professor, Keene State College, Keene, NH (now Prof. emeritus)
Kenneth Sowden (FM)

Mathematics, West Hills Community College
David Sprintzen (FM)

Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, Long Island Progressive Coalition, Citizen Action of New York
Morgan Stack (FM)

Accounting, Finance & Information Systems, University College Cork (UCC), Ireland. Co-founder of the Irish 9/11 Truth Movement
Robert J. Stern (FM)

Associate Prof. of Mathematics, Pellissippi State Technical Community College
Webster Griffin Tarpley (FM)

President, Washington Grove Institute Government-sponsoredterror, Author, "9/11 Synthetic Terror"
Martin Walter (FM)

Professor, Mathematics, University of Colorado at Boulder
Richard Welser (FM)

Psychology, Neuropsychology, Philosophy of Science
Grant Williams (FM)

Commercial construction with emphasis on seismic and structural engineering
Gerhard Wisnewski (FM)

Political scientist; Author of "Das RAF-Phantom", "Operation 9/11", "Aktenzeichen 11.9. ungeloest" (Case 9/11 Unsolved), "Mythos 9/11" and (forthcoming), "Verschlusssache Terror" (The secret files of terror)
William Woodward (FM)

Psychology, Political Psychology, University of New Hampshire

pilotsfor911truth.org
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Acronyms
TT = Total [Flight] Time
CA = Captain
FO = First Officer
FE = Flight Engineer
CFI = Certified Flight Instructor
II = Instrument Instructor
MEI = Multiengine Instructor
ASEL = Airplane Single Engine Land
ATP = Airline Transport Pilot
A&P = Aircraft And Powerplant Mechanic



CORE MEMBERS LISTED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY JOINED.
LIST UPDATED REGULARLY.


Robert Balsamo
4000TT Commercial, Instrument, Multi, CFI II MEI
Corporate Chief Pilot
135 Capt
121 FO Independence Air/Atlantic Coast Airlines
King Air C-90/200, Dornier 328JET

Captain Russ Wittenberg (ret)
30,000+ Total Flight Time
707, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, DC-8, L-1049, Learjet 24/25, L-188
Ground Instructor, Advanced Ground Instructor, Instrument Instructor, Flight Engineer Turbojet
Aircraft Dispatcher
Pan Am, United
United States Air Force (ret)
Over 100 Combat Missions Flown
Command time in:
- N591UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 93)
- N612UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 175)

Captain Ross Aimer
UAL Ret.
CEO, Aviation Experts LLC
40 years and 30,000 hrs.
BS Aero
A&P Mech.
B-777/767/757/747/737/727/720/707, DC-10/-9/-8 Type ratings
Command time in:
- N591UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 93)
- N612UA (Aircraft dispatched as United 175)
www.AviationExperts.com


Commander Ralph “Rotten” Kolstad
23,000 hours
27 years in the airlines
B757/767 for 13 years mostly international Captain with American Airlines.
20 years US Navy flying fighters off aircraft carriers, TopGun twice
civilian pilot flying gliders, light airplanes and warbirds
Command time in:
- N644AA (Aircraft dispatched as American 77)
- N334AA (Aircraft dispatched as American 11)


John Lear
Son of Bill Lear
(Founder, creator of the Lear Jet Corporation)
More than 40 years of Flying
19,000+ TT
23 Type ratings
Flight experience includes 707, DC-8, 727, L10-11

Jeff Latas
-Over 20 years in the USAF
--USAF Accident investigation Board President
--Flew the F-111, T38, and F-15E
--Combat experience in the F-15E includes Desert Storm and four tours of duty in Northern and Southern Watch
--Weapons Requirements Officer, USAF HQ, Pentagon
--Standard and Evaluations Flight Examiner, Command level
-Currently Captain for JetBlue Airways

Guy S. Razer, LtCol, USAF (Ret)
3,500+ Hours Total Flight Time
F-15E/C, F-111A/D/E/F/EF, F-16, F-18, B-1, Mig-29, SU-22, T-37/38, Various Cvilian Prop
Combat Time: Operation Northern Watch
USAF Fighter Weapons School Instructor
NATO Tactical Leadership Program Instructor/Mission Coordinator
USAF Material Command Weapons Development Test Pilot
Combat Support Coordination Team 2 Airpower Coordinator, South Korea
All Service Combat Identification Evaluation Team Operations Officer
Boeing F-22 Pilot Instructor
MS Aeronautical Studies, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University

Dwain Deets
MS Physics, MS Eng
Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center
Served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden
Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award
Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988)
Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics
Associate Fellow - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA)
Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000
Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems
- Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers
Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology
37 year NASA career

Field McConnell (Captain Sherlock?)
23,000+ hours
CV580,DC9,MD80,B727,A320,DC10
NCA,REP,NWA
A4,F4,F16 USN,USMC, ND ANG
www.captainsherlock.com
Forced to retire due 9/11 exposure
www.hawkscafe.com

Captain Paul A. Trood
B737-800/400 Captain
Qantas Airways
Australia
Experience: 18,000 flight hours

Jim Mustanich
ATP 20,000+ hours
Typed in CE-500, DHC-7, EMB-110, BA-3100
Aircraft flown include Boeing 727,737, Douglas DC-9, MD-80
United Air Lines, American International Airlines, Air Pacific Airlines, West Air Airlines
6-7 years corporate flying in Cessna Citations
Factory demo pilot for Cessna Citations

Ted Muga
Naval Aviator - Retired Commander, USNR
A/C experience - Grumman E-1 and E-2 ( Approx, 3800 hours )
Pan American World Airways - Retired Dec. 1991 ( that's when PanAM went bankrupt )
Flight Engineer/First Officer -- Boeing 707 & Boeing 727 ( approx. 7500 hours )

Col Robert Bowman
President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies
Executive Vice President of Millennium III Corporation
retired Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church
101 combat missions in Vietnam
directed all the “Star Wars” programs under Presidents Ford and Carter
recipient of the Eisenhower Medal
George F. Kennan Peace Prize
President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace
Society of Military Engineers' ROTC Award of Merit (twice)
Six Air Medals
Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech
chaired 8 major international conferences
one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security
independent candidate for President of the US in 2000
thepatriots.us...

John Panarelli
friend and fellow aviator of John Ogonowski - Capt. AA #11
ATP: L-300, B-737, DC-10, DC-8, FE, TT=approx. 11,000 hours
USAF-C141-IP, Eastern Metro, Braniff, Ryan International, Emery
Worldwide, Polar Air Cargo


"DG"
10,000TT
Chief Pilot of Casino Express airlines
Director of Operations Training at Polar Air
Cargo, and Asst. Chief Pilot for Presidential Air
Manager of Flying for Eastern Airlines
Falcon 900 and a G-200
Check Captain
B737,A300, Da-50, G-200 and C-500
FE, A&P.

Dennis Spear
Army Aviator
20+ years - United States Army
7000 TT in a variety of fixed and rotary wing aircraft
C-23, C-7, U-21,U-8, T-39, EH-60, UH-60, UH-1, OH-58
Instrument Flight Examiner, Fixed Wing Instructor Pilot, H-60
Maintenance Test Pilot
Operations Officer, Aviation Safety Officer
FAA Commercial Pilot
- ASMEL, Rotorcraft Helicopter, Instrument Airplane/Helicopter

Scott Burley
747-400 First Officer
United Airlines
22 Years

Bill Credle
Aviation Maintenance Technician
American Airlines
17 Years

Tony Ryan
Warrant Officer RAAF (ret)
Former Royal Australian Air Force
Served between 18thFeb1958 and 21March1981
Flight Engineer on C130A, C130E, C130H and B707
Cathay Pacific Airways
L1011 Tristar Flight Engineer, B747-200, B747-300 and B747-200F
10000+ TT FE
Australian Private Pilot License
300 hours on C150, C152, C172, C172RG and Piper Archer aircraft

Alfons Olszewski
Veterans For Truth
Vietnam Veteran
Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief
MOS: 67V20
qualified on Cobras, Hueys, and Loch Helicopters

George Nelson
Colonel USAF (Ret.)
30 year career managing aircraft maintenance activities
Licensed commercial pilot
Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic
Aircraft accident investigator

Larry Patriarca
USN Aviation Structural Mechanic
VAQ 135, EA-6B Squadron, 1983-86
Coordinator for Central Mass 9/11 Truth Alliance
Member of Veterans for 9/11 Truth
Associate Member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth

Captain Steve Nieman
30 year Capt with Horizon Air
Q400

Joel Skousen
USMC Fighter/Attack Pilot (Vietnam Era)
1000+ TT, F-4, A-4, F-9, T-2C, various civilian planes
Commercial Pilot w/ Instrument, multi-engine ratings
EAA and AOPA member

Colonel Michael Harley USAF (ret)
Command pilot
~ 6000 Total Flight Time
T-38,T-33, T-37,T-39, C-47, U-6, Uh-1, C130A, B, E, &
prototype H, Kc-135 and B-52.
26 years commissioned. 34 Years total service USAF Accident Investigator
Instructor Accident Investigation, Embry-Riddle University
Management analyst and IG, simulator instructor,
Instructor Pilot, Standardization Evaluation Pilot,
Chief of Standardization of a Sac Wing equipped with B-52, RC-135 and Kc-135
Flew Cessna 177, Twin Bonanza, Cherokee-6
~200 hours as civilian private pilot
Newspaper columnist for 10 years, now a freelance writer

Mathias Frey
Switzerland
C340, C402
CPL/IR
ATPL “frozen”
500 hrs TT
3000+ hrs on ASTRAS, INTRAS and TOSIM, ATC Simulation
Assistant JAR OPS Transition Air Engiadina
Project Manager Air Alps Aviation

Jeff Dahlstrom
C-141 pilot in the early 70's during the Vietnam era:
2nd AF, 432nd MAWg, 18th Sq, MacGuire AFB, NJ.
Pilot training was class 70-06, at Laughlin AFB, Tx

Joe H. Ferguson
Retired Capt.
30,000TT
5,000 FE
USAF Ret.
T-6, T -28, B-25, B-29, KC-97
Frontier, Continental Airlines
DC - 3, CV 580, B737, MD80, DC10

Bill Reyes
Caravan Pilot for UPS Feeder
Commercial, Instrument,
Multi Engine, Flight Instructor
1500 TT
Ex Lieutenant USN Horn Of Africa/ Persian Gulf 02-03
Aboard USS Nassau (LHA-4)

Capt. Omar Pradhan
U.S. Air Force – AWACS command pilot
Flight Instructor U.S. Air Force Academy
Planes flown: Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS (militarized Boeing 707-320B)
1,900+ hours flight time (350+ hours of combat air time over Afghanistan and Iraq)

Jared Eastley
5000 + TT
Airplane, Single & Multi-Engine Land, CFII, MEI, ATP
SWIV (Metroliner) - Single Pilot
Business Charter and Air Ambulance Pilot

Mike Aybar
Aircraft Maintenance Technician, Crew Chief
American Airlines

"Steven"
Canada ATC (in training)

James Edward Forst
First Officer EMB-145 Trans States Airlines
UND summa cum laude December 2006
Degree in Commercial Aviation and Aviation Management
CFI, CFII, and MEI 65% type CRJ

Hammish Brannan
Former United Kingdom air defense ground enviroment (UKADGE) RADAR technician
Primary and secondary ground radar systems
ATC & airborne systems (including radio) as an instructor for the Ministry of Defence (MOD)

Didier "Jay" Weenen
BAF retired
SIAI SF 260M, Potez Fouga Magister, BA/Do Alpha Jet,
F16A, C130H, C153, C172, C182, L45, various gliders

"Wes"
MD-88 American Airlines

Peter Rapp
Austria
PPL/IFR 950TT
Piper Turbo Arrow, PA32T Saratoga,
Cessna 172, Cessna 182T Garmin1000
Carry out business flights for clients and Co-Pi on Turbine Malibu and Beech90 Kingair.

Erin Myers
600TT
Private Pilot (single engine, land, VFR)
Cessna, Piper, Waco, Pitts, Citabria
R22s and a JetRanger.
Army Aviation 68G (maintenance and repair):
Blackhawk, Apache and OH58.
FAA A&P Mechanic
Experimental Aircraft Builder
1990 KitFox.Lanceair, Glassair, variety of Micro and Ultra lights.

Sean Dulac
Private Pilot
500TT

Christina Merrick
12,000+ TT ATP
A&P, CFIAIM, FE Turbojet
B-727, DC-9, SNJ-5, (T-6)
Navion and Bellanca Viking Current
Advanced Instructing
Consultant for AOPA Legal Attorneys
Eastern Airlines, ValuJet
Fellow Pilot and Friend of Captain Candi Chamberlain Kubeck
ValuJet flight 592, brought down in the Everglades May 1996

Dave Kisor
Former Aviation Electrician
USN / USNR Worked on A-4E/F, TA-4F/J
& A-7B/E ashore and afloat (CV-19, CV-43)
P-3B & C-9B. Back seat TA-4F/J & A-4F NWL
Flight & hangar deck fire fighting qualified
Jumped from UH-1N
BA & MA in Geography
Presently employed US Forest Service
Technician at the Riverside CA Fire Laboratory

Slawomir M. Kozak
Air Traffic Controller
Warsaw International Airport Tower Control Supervisor
On Job Training Unit Chief
Former President of Polish Air Traffic Controllers Association
Former member of Polish Airports State Enterprise Employee’s Council
Member of National Aviation Council
Member of International Aviation English Association
Journalist of aviation magazines
"National Geographic" aviation consultant
Author of Two Books related to 9/11. Currently working on third - Demons Of Extermination
Books Available here

Timothy Young
Comm, Inst, ME, Land & Sea, CFI
Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic
10,000+ Hrs. PIC
Aircraft Owner & Aviation Business Operator for 27 years

Greg Stone
Flight Attendant
American Airlines
LAX-I, 31-years

Michael Herzog
Private Pilot
Multi Engine Rated
1500TT
150, 152, 172, 210, Cherokee 140, Warrior, Twin Aerocommander
Profession : Talk Show Host
We The People Radio Network
'The American Awakening'


Rodger Herbst
777 and 787 Aeronautics
Flight Controls and Simulation Engineering

Jeff Beck
Commercial, Instrument

Craig Hill
Post Solo Student Pilot
Ran as 9/11 Truth candidate for US Senate for Vermont in 2004 and 2006.
Producer of "Treason Inc"
Founder of the Green Party of Vermont
Helped organize four 9/11 Truth candidates appearing on statewide ballot in Vermont in 2006
Appeared on many televised debates promoting 9/11awareness
Public Appearances -
-C-SPAN2, Called for the arrest and removal of Bush, Cheney and much of DC for treason
-Spoken on 9/11 panels and podiums in many venues around the country, from NYC on several occasions
-9/11 Boston Tea Party at historic Faneuil Hall
-The Alex Jones-organized 9/11 event in LA
-The 2006 event in Chicago
Currently organizing impeachment drives in Vt and around the country to
broaden 9/11 awareness and surreptitiously expose the perps in proposed
congressional hearings in 2007.

Fredrick W. Harvey
Pilot
Silver Star
Bronze Star
Three Purple Hearts
Two Tours in Vietnam

John W. Travis, MD, MPH
Preventive Medicine, (Johns Hopkins)
Founder, first wellness center in US
Retired Pilot

Lisa Long
Private Pilot, Single Engine Land
1978
AngelsForTruth.com...

Art Carran
Commercial Certificate
Instrument Rating
350 Hours TT
Piper, Beech, and Cessna single-engine aircraft
Professional Engineer, State of Ohio
Aerospace Engineer

Harold Saive
Private Pilot
Single Engine Land

Captain Keith West (ret)
Continental Airlines
20,000 + Total Flight Time
Lear Jet, MD80, 737

Daniel G. Martinez
Blackhawk and Turbine Engine Mech
18 year A&P
L-3 Vertex, Iraq

Pieter Lathuy
Capt A330/A340
Emirates Airline
Ex Belgian Air Force F-16

Adam Shaw
Wingman CAPTENS.fr Aerobatic Airshow team
Former UPI and Washington Post reporter
Author SOUND OF IMPACT "The Legacy of TWA # 514", Viking Press , N.Y(1977)
4500 hrs TT. Aerobatic, Mountain, Seaplane Instructor-Pilot

Gordon Price
36 Yrs Airline
B744 A340, A330, A320, L1011,DC-8, DC-9, Vanguard, Viscount
6 Yrs RCAF - CF-104 F-86


Jacob Moncrief
EMB-145 Captain
ExpressJet Airlines
3000TT


Naomi Watson
Flight Attendant - Delta Airlines
Based Atlanta


James M. Craven
Commerical, Instrument
Ground Instructor (Advanced and Instrument)
Professor of Economics
Chairman Business Division
Clark College in Vancouver, WA.

R. Bruce Sinclair
Leduc , Alberta , Canada
42 years Flying
19,000 hours.
10 years on the Boeing 737
Captain on the Airbus A300-B4
Trained/Instructor in aircraft performance at Boeing
Beech King Air B200 on medevacs (air ambulance)

Ron Larsen
ASEL, Commercial, Instrument,
900 hrs TT
PhD in Applied Physics and Materials Science,
Cornell University, 1973.
First licensed in 1968 and fairly active through 1992,
flying Beechcraft, Mooney, Cessna and Piper A/C.
9/11 researcher for several years.
Publisher/Editor of LibertyCalling.com (www.libertycalling.com) since 2002.
Broadcaster since 1950.
Host of the Liberty Calling Beacon live radio program

Richard Rogers
Army Guard
Active duty Air Force in Nov 1982 with a honorable separation in Dec 1992.
70250 administration troop
Retrained into F-16/A-10 integrated avionics systems
Only troop to pass the 5 level upgrade testing (45155)
Shaw AFB, SC or RAF Bentwaters, England

Captain Donald D. Halpenny Retired
Ozark , TWA , and AA

J. Randall Reinhardt
Commercial, Multi, Instrument, CFI, ATP,
Commercial Glider, Advanced/ Instrument Ground Instructor,
Turbojet Type Rating - Learjet
Flying since 1961,
8,000+ hours in civil, military and Part 25 Transport category aircraft
J.D. degree in 1972 ,
30 years practicing trial law, with a concentration in aviation related litigation,
including FAA Part 91, 135, 121 and 141 accidents and FAA/NTSB matters
Forensic Director for U.S. Aviation Forensics with 30 years experience in aircraft accident investigation.
Former FAA Accident Prevention Specialist
Former member U.S. Unlimited Aerobatic Team with unrestricted aerobatic waiver.


Ted Williams
4200TT Commercial, Instrument, Multi, Glider
Corporate Pilot
121 FO Suburban Airlines
F-27, SD3, PA-31T

Richard Kleiner
ATP, 6800 hrs
BA-125, L-1329, B707, B717

RALPH C. (TED) BOHNE III
COMMERCIAL PILOT, ASMEL, ASMES RHEL
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
2000 HRS TT

Marianne MAIRE-SHAW
French, Commercial Pilot
Aerobatic Flight Instructor
4900 Total Flight Time
7 Times Aerobatic French Champion
15 Years member of the French Aerobatic Team
Leader of CAPTENS, a formation flight team of 2 Cap10
www.captens.fr

Shannon Sheridan
Private Pilot SEL (VFR)
Cessna 172
Former Flight Attendant:
Continental Airlines IAH, LAX
American Airlines JFK, DFW
Corporate Flight Attendant:
Fidelity National Title, Lockheed Jetstar - SNA
General airport bum

Michael Masters
Airline Transport Pilot Certificate (ATP)
CFI MEI
5,000 hours total time
3,600 hours multi-engine
1,200 turbine
King Airs (90, 100, and 200)
Air Taxi/Commercial Operations
FAR 135
Air Ambulance

Terry E. Phillips
18,900 hours flight time,
41 years as a professional pilot
ATPL, CE500, CE560, LrJet, NA265, DA10, B727, A320

Charles Dills
Former USAAF WWII
27th Fighter Bomber Group
94 Combat Missions
European Theater
P-40, P-47, P-51A
PhD Harvard
www.charlies-web.com...

A. Erhard, Germany
Senior First Officer Boeing 747-400
Aerobatic Pilot and Flight Instructor
5200 h TT

Guido Fontana
F.A.A. Commercial
Instrument Rating
Single & Multiengine Land
Single Sea
Glider 1000 Hrs
Airplane 2000 Hrs
C337 P68 P44 PA30
Glider aero tow Stinson L5, Robin Dr400, Cessna L19

Greg Madden
Former Marine (non-pilot)
Radio Technician
Martin Co., Florida

Dennis Cimino
Electrical Engineer
Commercial Pilot Rating, since 1981
Navy Combat Systems Specialist: RADAR, ECM, cryptographic communications
Flight Data Recorder Engineer Smiths Aerospace
BA-609, IDARS, Military and Commercial
Millimeter wave RADAR and countermeasures expert since 1973
Two patents held for Doppler RADAR ( Kavouras ):
long pulsewidth RADAR droop compensation network,
and wave guide arc detection for high powered RADAR

James Beardsley
Airline Transport Pilot
CFI-Instrument and Airplane
SES
Started a flight school in Crystal Lake Illinois circa 1974
Opened a couple of FBO’s one in Kenosha, WI
Founded Alliance Airlines a Midwest commuter
Director of a non-profit adoption agency

Captain Scotty Zeches
8,000 TT
Type ratings J3100, D328jet, A320
ATP, CFII, Advanced Ground Instructor
Air Astana Airlines, IndiGo Airlines, Skybus Airlines,
Independence Airlines, Atlantic Coast Airlines, and Florida Air Cargo
US Army, Paratrooper - 82d Airborne

Mik Eriksson
Denmark
225 tt ppl
pa28 pa22 pa18 c172 c177.
Bellanca tailwheel
12tt ul
Skyranger

Captain Timothy Self
6500 Hrs total time ATP, CFI, CFII, Flight Engineer, A&P Mechanic
135 Capt Lear Jets
121 FE/FO Japan Airlines, Omni Air International
Retired Air Force
Simulator Instructor
C141, DC-10, Lear Jet

Captain Claude Sourzac
21000+ TT
15000 B737, BBJ
rated F27, DC3, B744

Ed Parise
Captain TWA, retired
747, 767, 707, 727, DC9, L 1011
USN
F8, F9, F4, A4, P2, S2
TT 10,000+

Brent D.Greenwood
21,000+ hrs. (retired)
Hawaii Air Academy, DHL, United.
ATP: DC-3, 6, 7 L-188, B-737 B-757, 767, A&P

Gerald P. New
captain with Grant Aviation
Bethel, AK.
2500 tt. ATP, CFII, MEI.
Mostly operate PA-31-350'S.


Bob Price
Commercial/instrument
American General Tiger
Cessna 172 RG


Captain Hadi Rizvi
Flying 43 years
Courses on Accident Investgation
22 Years with Pakistan Air Force as fighter -Total about 3500 Hrs,
Types Flown: T-6G; T-37; T-33; F-86F/E, F-5; MirageIII/V; MIG-15; MIG-19, QFI
21 Years with PIA (Pakistan International Airlines) ~13000 Hrs
Types Flown: F-27; Boeing 737; Boeing 747; Airbus 310


Joseph F. Hamilton, III
BS: Aviation Technology/Avionics, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL.
AS: Aviation Maintenance Technology, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL.
FAA: Private Pilot: SEL
FAA: Airframe and Power plant Mechanic / 25 years
FAA: Inspection Authorization / 12 years
FCC: General Radio-telephone operator
IPC-A-610 Certified IPC Trainer
IPC-JSTD-001 Certified IPC Trainer


Christian Österdahl
2300 hrs TT F/O
737NG, A319/320
Easyjet

Capt Fred Fox (ret)
33 years experience flying for American Airlines
Commercial aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 727, 747, 767,
McDonnell Douglas DC-10, MD-80, and MD-11, Douglas DC-6,
and General Dynamics/Convair 990 Coronado
Former U.S. Navy pilot.
Aircraft flown: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, 8 years experience

Edward A. Meyer
FAA Air Traffic Control Specialist
La Guardia Air Traffic Control
FAA Certified Airline Transport Pilot
Certified Flight Engineer/Turbojet
Certified Flight Instructor
3,000+ total hours flown

Robin Cooper
1500+ hours Helicopter
Commercial Pilot Rotorcraft (Helicopter), CFI Rotorcraft (Helicopter),
100 hours Fixed Wing with private pilot add-on
Instrument fixed wing
High performance/complex sign off fixed wing
6 years working in the aviation business

Captain Garry Bonnett
ENGLAND
Captain Airbus A320 series working for a British Airline for the past 20 years.
11500 total hrs
Over 8000 in command on commercial jets
Approximately 3000 hrs B737
5000hrs Airbus
DC9 as a co pilot.
CAA Licensed Engineer Qualified to certify All piston engine aircraft on the UK Register and Also the DC9
Holds an FAA Commercial

David DeSantis
-1,200 hours and building!
-Commercial Certificate
-ATP Written
-Single Engine, Multi Engine, Instrument Instructor
-Types Flown: SGS 2-33 Glider, C-150, C-152, C-170, C-172, C-182,
J-3, PA-28, PA-44, PA-46, Pitts S2B, Cirrus SR-20, Cirrus SR-22,
CE-500 Citation, CRJ training.

Darin M. Bowers
Aircraft Mechanic 16+ years
Served 4 years at Nellis AFB, LV
561st Fighter Wild Weasel Squadron between 1993-1996 as a Crew Chief
Deployed to Turkey and Saudi in Operations Provide Comfort and Southern Watch
Retired the F-4G Phantoms in 96, some to the bone yard and
Phase inspector on the A-10 and F-15E Srike
Separated with an honorable
Line mechanic on the DC-8, DC-9, B727, B757, B767, A300 and MD-11 for the past 12 years

Ralph W. Omholt
Commercial airline pilot
Boeing 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and McDonnell Douglas DC-10

Captain Dan Hanley
Total flight time: 20,000 hours
Last Seat Position: B-777 Captain
Airline: United Airlines
Military Service: Naval Aviator P-3C Orion
Website: www.airline-whistleblowers.org...
Blog: www.airline-whistleblower.com...
Statement - "Thanks for the honor of joining the elite ranks of Pilots for 9/11 Truth!"

Max Guiley
ATP, MBA
Total Flight Time: 5,200
Former Aviation Underwriter for U.S.A.I.G.
Former Jet Naval Aviator
F.A.A. Airline Transport Certificate, M.B.A. in International Business

Chris Rockhold
Total Flight Time: 6000
ERAU Empire Airlines
C206, C207, C208, C402, C404 ATP, CFI

Glenn Hoeft
Total Flight Time: 18,800
NWA(Delta), Eastern A/L, Lockheed Martin
U.S. Navy, USNR
B-747(400), B-757(200 & 300), B727(100 & 200), LR-24,25 & 35, L-188, P-3models, B-200

Jeff Donovan
Ex ATC in USMC
Comments: I was an Air Traffic Controller in the Marines for 6 years and never believed any of the government's stories of 9/11

Richard (Rick) DaCosta
Total Flight Time: 15,000
UAL
USN Reserve
Lockeed Electra co-pilot,B727,engineer co-pilot, B747 co-pilot,
Comment: I've been a disbeliever of the 9/11 official government story since 2002 after studying the facts.
We must continue striving to protect and keep our Constitution intact from all of the subsequent attacks after 9/11.
We know who they(the elite)are now and we know what they are planning. Heads up! Cover our sixes!

Chris Draus
Flight Attendant
Horizon Air (Alaska Air Group)
Q200, Q400, CRJ 700

Mac Rogers
25.000+
Delta Air Lines, USAF
Delta: Capt. on 727, 737, 757, 767, MD-11
F/O on DC-9, 727, L-1011
S/O on DC-8, 727, L-1011
USAF: T-37 IP (Active Duty)
U-3, C-7, A-37 (USAFR)
T-41, T-37, T-38 (Trained on)
Civil (Low time):
Cessna 150, 172, 310
Beachcraft Bonanza

Jacob Suijk
Total Flight Time: 500+
Dutch civil ATC
Comment: Now more then 7 years hoping for change; it's time to join.

Jason Jackson
Total Flight Time: 1550
Commercial Pilot Airplane Single and Multi Engine Land, Instrument Airplane.
Certified Flight Instructor Airplane Single and Multi Engine Land, Instrument Airplane

Dale Netley
Airframe and Engine Technician
Coastal Pacific Airlines, Air B.C, Air Canada Jazz
Two years served in the Candian Armed Forces
Comment: At eighteen years of age I was trained in the Canadian Armed Forces as a Vehicle Tech.
I served my country proudly, with First Service Battalion. Throughout my working life I have been employed
continuously in fields of expertice directly related to mechanical repair;
both land based equipment and aeronautical. I have been employed as an
Aircraft Maintenance Technician for the past twenty two years.

Richard Chargin
Total Flight Time: 110 hours
SJSU, Atari Games, RJA

Robert Rowe
T-43 and various light aircraft

Doug Johnson
Total Flight Time: 18,000
American Airlines
US Army
Comments: Took early retirement after 24 years of airline service. CA:B-737, FK-100, FO:B-727,DC-10.
Air Cavalry-AH-1G/S,UH-1,OH-58, did DOD flying experimentation. CAP:T-34, L-4. Numerous types of
light single and multi-engine civilian airplanes since high school. Duane Cole Aerobatic Course Grad.
Civilian flight and instrument instructor. Airline academics and simulator instructor, check airman.

Paul Welton
Aerospace Manufacturing Engineer
Companies Worked: Boeing
1981 to 1985 USAF
Comments: I was a autopilot and instrument mechanic while in the USAF. I worked on the following aircraft;
A-10, C-130, and F4's while in the military. After the military I went to college and got my AA in Electronics.
I worked for Boeing from 1989 until 1996 both as a flight line electrician in 747 Delivery and as an manufacturing engineer.
I have since started my own contract manufacturing engineering firm and have operated it for over 10 years.
I've basically worked in on or around airplanes for almost 30 years.
Marc Wilnauer
Total Flight Time: 1650
A320, A340

Donald Berk
Pilot
1,500 hrs
USAF
Commercial, CFI, SEL, SES, Glider, 35 types
BA, MA
Nothing is more cynical and disdainful of human dignity, the Constitution and the memory of patriotic sacrifice
than a false flag operation. The truth of 9/11 must be dug out and publicly displayed.

Tamara Pearce
Flight Attendant
Pan American, United
I am committed to those being held responsible who carried-out these atrocities against our Nation

Mike Banks
Aerospace Design Engineer
Airbus, GKN Aerospace. Smiths Ind, Eurocopter UK, BN Aviation
23 Years design experience within the aerospace industry

Keenan Evams
Mechanic
Civil Aviation Academy Ltd
I want the truth!

John Delisle
Pilot
100+ hours
RCAC 1985-1994
Glider pilot, Royal Canadian Air Cadets

Perdrisat Michel
Pilot
Capt. (ret)
Total Flight Time: 15000
MA (History)
Former fighter pilot (Mirage III)
27 years commercial pilot
DC-9 / MD-80 / DC-10 / A-320 series / MD-11
Flight instructor
Former fighter pilot Swiss Air Force (Mirage III)

Jesse
Ramp Agent
United Airlines / Westfield State College
Still hoping the truth can get out there.

Rick Foote
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 17,000
Corporate Pilot, 121Freight, Commuter, Air Ambulance
US Army
ATP Types in DC-3, Lear Jets 24,25,35, Lockheed Electra L188, Jet Star L1329 6,8,731,II
Falcon 10,20,200,2000,50,900 Gulfstream IV A&P Mechanic Director of Maintiance,135 Check Pilot, Chief Pilot, Director of Operations
Flight Safety, Simuflight Trained

Richard Wilkinson
Pilot
Plane Builder
AA Fire Control Chief
707 down to Piper cub.
Built or built or re built more planes than I can remember, Two are in the Air and Space museum,
Leo Loudenslager and Duane Cole and took care of Charlie Hillard's,
I know what a plane and person can and can not do. I shot my T V Sept 20 2001, if need to hear lies I choose a cute girl.

Tim Erney
Mechanic
Beech Aerospace Services, Inc. ; Vincennes University A.S.
Combat Engineer-demo Army Reserve 1983 - 1989
Thank you for your outstanding work exposing the truth of 9/11.
I have a unique perspective being an A&P, knowing how to fly, and being experienced
with demolitions in the Army Reserves. I have always known the "official" narrative of events on 9/11 is a lie.

Ron Haugenh
Former Mechanic
Kollsman Instrument Corp; US Army Aviation
US Army [Aviation]
AH-1G Attack Helicopter [Cobra] Crew Chief/Troubleshooter plus some stick time. Some stick time on 2 seater Trainer [rotary wing].
Vertical Velocity Indicator [early Kollsman "KIFIS" system] technician, calibrator, consultant.

Ken Chevis
Pilot
413 hours
Royal Canadian Air Force 1950-1954
Harvard - Pilot Trainee
T33 - Pilot Trainee
P51D - Pilot Trainee
CF100 - Pilot Officer

Timothy Wrinkle
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 500
Cessna 150 - 172 - U-206
Maule/Floats MX-7
Piper PA-18 / PA-28 / PA-34 / PA-31

J. Sagara
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 2600
CFI

O. W. Hungerford Jr.
Texas A@M
US Army 5.5 years
L-19 school San Marcus Texas Korean War. Forward Observer 155 Howitzer


Tim Jones
Mechanic
USCG HU-25
Dropmaster, Radar Operator

MOD
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 10000
British Airways
Military Service: 15yrs
Harrier Jump Jet

Edward Rutland
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 1000
Auburn Univ, Univ South Florida
Alabama Air National Guard
Single engine land airman's certificate. Flown sail planes, twin engines

David T. Helms
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 5000+
Air Transport Training Internetional (Lufthansa), Flight Safety International
CFI/I, MEI, ASMELS, Commercial, Instrument

James Spradling
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 550
USAF 1971-1999
F-4C (backseat); Pipers, Cessnas, Grummans

Dave
Pilot/Mechanic
Total Flight Time: 1000+
Old war planes TBM
T28 T26 lost of small stuff

Andre-J. HOLBECQ
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 18000
Air France
Gliders, Mystere 20, Caravelle, Boeing 707, Boeing 747, Concorde (from 1987 to 1993)

Tom Swanson
USN Aircrewman
Total Flight Time: 400 Hours
Electronic Warfare Operator in EA-3B and EC-121M


Ronald Whitcomb
Vietnam Combat Veteran 68-69
I am interested because I do not believe the "official account" of this incident.


Neil Evangelista
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 600
California State Univ, Northridge
Air Force
Commercial, SMEL, Instrument Rated

Joe St.Clair
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 24000
WestAir and SkyWest
Army Aviation
Captain on BA-3100 and EMB-120


Anthony Sallie
Avionics Tech
Msgt USAFR(ret)
GAC on C141 and KC-10

Jerry Mayville
Private pilot, Airplane owner

Jared Sebesta
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 100+
C150, Piper Archer II, C172

Michael Joseph Kearns
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 7000+
Part 135 Charter Companies
PIC Lear Jet, HS-125, AC-1121, helicopter, seaplane

Michael Cangemi
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 200TT
Private Pilot, Artist
Cessna 152, 172, 172RG, Piper Arrow

Peter Muller
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 360
Personal AC only

Thomas W. Mcguire Jr
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 4000 hours
1951-1978
Command Pilot largely single seat fighters: F-80, F-84G, F-84F, F-100, F-101, F-105, F-4,and T-39.
Flew 100 missions over N. Vietnam in F-4 leading 31 missions over Hanoi area known as Route Pack Six.
Retired as Full Colonel in 1978.

David Strader
Electronic Engineer

Rob Miller
Total Flight Time: 10,000
Military Service: USMC
A-4, C-130. Beach 1900, Beach 300, many Cessnas...
CFII for longer than I care to remember
How did a bunch of begining student pilots manage to fly a rather new sophiciated aircraft from the point of
Hi-jack to a pre-determined point with as little training as it is reported that they had???
...from my experience begining students are not even capable of finding the airport they just took off
from (usually 10-15 nm from the traing area) not to mention flying several hundred of miles to a pre-determind point...

Ray Fougnier
Pilot
Cessna 150, 172
Piper PA28, PA32
Private pilot, single engine, VFR

Mark E Thorley
Flight Simulator Technician
American Airlines, Boeing
US Air Force
B52, KC135, B1, A300, 727, 737, 757, 767, 777, F100, Saab 340, ATR42, ERJ, 707, MD80

Paul Maxwell
Vintage aircraft restoration. Helicoptor support crew. Part 91 and 135 managment. Airshow ramp crew. Gen. aviation knowlage.
I have helped work on mostly warbirds and helicopters (everything from P-51 to B-29, Bell206, Hughes 500, ect.) along with some
GA stuff ( cessna, beech, ect. All airworthy.) As a result, I am lucky to have many hours of stick time in many types,
including single and multi engine, tailwheel and helicopter. Also about 3 hours of full motion sim time on DC-9 and L-1011.

Peter Saling
Student
Total Flight Time: 50+
Florida Institute Of Technology, Melbourne, FL
Piper, Hughes 300

Jason
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 40
Student for Personal License
Cherokee PA28

Robert (Bob) Bass
Pilot
Env. Engineer
Total Flight Time: 300+
U of F, Professional Geologist
ASEL, Aerobatic trained

Doug Knights
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 8000 hrs
EasyJet, Astraeus Airlines
B737 - Captain, Embraer 145 - Captain

Robert Taylor
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 320
Canstar Aviation
R22

Lionel A Smith
Aircraft Artificer Engines and Airframes
RN and Fleet Air Arm from July 1963 to July 1982
Five years of apprenticeship covering- fitting, welding, turning, brazing, sheet-metal work in light alloys,
steels, titanium, workshop technologies and engineering drawing, non-destructive testing,
thorough study of airframe and aero-engine mechanisms, structures and systems, aircraft finishes.
Study to A level standard in Mathematics, Aeronautical Engineering Science, Applied Mechanics (Aircraft),
Engineering Drawing (advanced level).

Service experience: Sea Vixens FAW 1 and 2 - 766 Squadron and 893 Squadron including HMS Victorious.
Hunter GA11, PR10/11, T8 and also Meteor T7 and NF11, Vampire T22, Sea Prince, Swordfish, Tiger Moth.
Phantom F4K 892 Squadron and Ark Royal. Trials installation unit (9 years) including designing manufacturing
fitting (using most skills learned under training) and documentation of role change modifications to
Canberra T22, Hunters T8 and GA11 - PR10/11, Sea King, Sea Devon, Sea Heron, Wasp, Wessex, Lynx.

Post RN - 4 year degree course BEd (Hons 2:1) in Maths and Science covering many aspects including calculus (again),
Stats, functions and graphs, sets and modular arithmetic, computer architecture and BASIC programming
(taken to machine code and assembler on own volition in spare time - skills learned used during a contract
programming period 89-90, weather and climate, chemistry (varied aspects including crystallography) and
quantum mechanics, other earth sciences, magnetism.

Eric Traffie
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 490 hours
Currently fly a Christen Eagle, have flown 150, 172, 182, DA40, PA16, Decathalon, J3.

Richard Connelly
Aircraft Dispatcher
American Eagle Airlines
I've worked as an Aircraft Dispatcher for over 23 years. I worked on the day 9/11 happened,
while dispatching my flights in the northeast. When 9/11 happened I was angry at the hijackers,
but now that I have examined the evidence and it clearly points towards someone, most likely at the
highest levels of our government, I want a new and HONEST investigation opened to answer questions.
And lastly, those found responsible must be punished. There must be justice for the victims.

Brett Hoffstadt
Aerospace Engineer
Purdue University, Penn State University

Ken Hamilton
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 5000+
Commercial Aviator
A300, DC8's, Turboprops

Sean Holt
Pilot
OBA, SCA, AFT,
F/O

Naveed Riaz
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 3300
Pakistan Air Force, Air Blue
Pakistan Air Force 17 years
MFI-17(prop), T-37, FT-5(Mig-15), Instructor Pilot Combat Commanders School
Instructor Pilot F-16 A/B & F-7(Mig-21), FO A319/320/321 (1300 hours)
Have always believed its impossible for rookie prop pilots to learn to fly a modern air liner on Flt simulator
and then navigate to crash on twin towers with accuracy.

Bernarr C Schaeffer
Pilot
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Bernarr C Schaeffer
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 2000 hours
P-47 36 missions Europe
P-47 Fighter Group 367/394 Europe
Your cause is great, don't stop.

John Cusick
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 20,300
Capital & United
US Army
B737-F/O,Capt B737/300-Capt B727-S/O,F/O DC8- S/O DC10-F/O B757/767-Capt

William A. (Bill) Pitsker
Pilot
Total Flight Time: ~35000
World Airways; Pan Am
USAF Aircraft Commander, C-124; FO L-1049/1649; Nav/FEO/FO, B-707/727/747; A-300/310.
Type rated, Ce500, A-310

Beth Gray
Factory
TWA, UNITED

John
Police Officer
Army National Guard Aviation
17 years
Huey, Loach, Black Hawk, Crew Chief

Howard Kreiss
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 20000
Pan Am, Iran Airlines, Ariana Afgan Airlines, Korean Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines,
Air Malta Military Service, US Army
B707, B747, B737

Tyler Hofstetter
Mechanic
CWH
Cessna 172

Christian Lidén
Ramp, startleader
Hello, worked at landvetter airport in sweden

V A Weiss
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 14000
American, Midway, Air Wisconsin
Captain, FO
FK-100 DC-9, BAe-146

Lt Col David Gapp
Qualified Accident Investigator, Accident Board President from USAF Safety School
Total Flight Time: 3000
US Air Force, Continental Airlines
Military Service: 31 years
T-37, T-38, F-4, ATR-42 (one year w/ Continental Express), then went back into the Air Force

Bruce C. Jenkins
Aeronautical Engineer
Total Flight Time: 2000 hrs
Lockheed (LMSC), AerospaceCorp
United States Navy
PBM and P2V Aircraft/ Korean War

Douglas M. Scherer
Mechanic
Total Flight Time: 1500
American Airlines
Army Aviator, Vietnam Vet
Cessna T-41, O1G Birddog, T210, 206, 207
Beech Baron 58, Twin Bonanza, D18
Piper Cherokee 6, Cherokee 180, Aztec DeHaviland Beaver

"Mel"
12 year Dispatcher

Hassan Abbas Khawaja
University of Cambridge, UK
Bachelor in Aerospace Engineering,
MPhil in Engineering (Fluid Mechanics)
PhD in Engineering (Fluid Mechanics)
Experience of flying and gliding

Peter Raymond
Home~Build Auto~Gyro Gyro~Plane w/ Kawaski 4~Cyl 4~$troke
Total Flight Time: 37.75

Lije Baley
Chemist/mathematician
State University of NY
"I think 9/11 was covered up, and should be reinvestigated. This guy, Detrich Snell convicts Abdul Hakim Murad, who says he will cooperate,
and tells of a plot to hijack a plane and fly it into the CIA headquarters. Same guy tells Philippine investigators that is part of a larger plot
to crash a number airplanes into Prominent US buildings including WTC & the Pentagon. This is in 1995. Snell goes onto to become senior
counsel and a team leader for the 9/11 commission. Why was this guy on the 9/11 commission?"

Jonathan Parkhill
Mechanic
Bombardier aerospace
"I am time served aircraft fitter and have built wings, fuselage and engine nacelles. Damage to the pentagon does not make any sense.
Have read people trying to dismiss wings as light honeycomb structures hence lack of damage to the building. I KNOW THIS TO BE UNTRUE."

Gordon Gilhooly
Mechanic
Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources, Great Lakes Airlines, Air Canada
Weapons Tech Air, Canadian Forces
Worked on aircraft for almost 37 years.

Mike Buchanan
Aviation Reporter
WUSA-TV Washington,D.C.
Aviation reporter doing research on 9/11

Abdul Kareem
Flight Attendant
United Arab Emirates Airlines
Embraers

Michael Sheehan
Mechanic
Electronic Countermeasures, Avionics Technician
U.S.M.C. 1983-1989
Worked on Electronic Countermeasures system on board EA6B Aircraft.
Trained in Aviation Fundamentals, Avionics, Electronic Countermeasures, Flight Deck Fire Fighting.

Christopher Stavrou
Private Pilot
Total Flight Time: 50
Florida Tech
Piper Warrior PA28-161

Bob Scaggs
Mechanic
Lockheed
US Army
Blackhawk, Mohawk, Chinook, 58c-d, Apache

Ron Marshall
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 425.0 hrs
Private, VFR, Pilot in command

James Sorrentino
"... employed by the Airline Industry, I am a long time aircraft enthusiast, and have flown extensively on private and commercial aircraft.
Since that fateful day of 9/11, I have been a strong advocate of finding the truth about what actually happened,
and will not accept the lies and contradictions. I commend your organization, and, very much support your work here.
I respectfully request to become a member of your organization, and, would like to assist in any way possible."

Mark Long
Mechanic
Total Flight Time: 26
Boeing, Textron/AAI
USAF
"I currently have about 26 hours in a 172.
I'm an A+P Mechanic and have worked on C-130, C-17, B787, F-22, and currently on UAVs."

Michael Salyers
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 20000
US Airways, Henson Airlines, Embry Riddle Aeronautical University
DHC-8,SD-3,B-737 Captain On each. Currently Captain and Check Airman on B-737.
Have spent hundreds of hours researching the events of 911 and do not believe the published account of the 911 comission.

Wayne Anderson
Avionics Tech
Braniff, Contractor

Gianluca Frati
Italian "duhbunker" who likes to play games
Liar

George Hylkema
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 340
Piper PA12, Cessna 150

Linda C. Hayes, O.D., Ph.D.
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 700 hrs
BA Physics Rice University, MS Physiology LSU, Ph.D. Pathology KU Med School,
O.D. Optometry U of H
Ratings: Instrument, Commercial Types Flown: Grumman Cheetah, Piper Arrow, Cessna 172, Piper Geronimo

Wolfgang Köhler
Mechanical Engineer

Christian Sheils
Pilot
Comments: This is the most important subject in history as it shows the lies
we have al been sold thru history and how they are justified.

Carlos londono
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 3500
Ibc airways
Sa227 PIC, Saab 340 SIC

Brian Bell
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 9000
Embry-Riddle BS & MAS, Wien, MarkAir, Alaska. FedEx, Delta
Comments: Wrote June 23,2001 AirlineBiz.Com warning of impending US terrorist attack.

Tonya Miller
Flight Attendant
Republic Airways
ERJ 170

Jerome Petersen
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 150
Cessna, Piper, Pitts, Trinidad, Experimental Ultralights

George R. Adam
Mechanic
United Airlines 31 years
USAF 8 years
Engine Inspector at United Airlines

Scott Ransmeier
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 200
TaylorCraft, Cessna 150, 152, 172, 182

Allan Parker
Software Engineer
Total Flight Time: 350 hrs
RAF
200 hrs Jet Provost T5 90 hrs BAe Hawk T1 60 hrs Jetstream T1

Guy Johnstone
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 11,234
East West / Ansett Australia
22 piston twin types,Turbo Commander, F/O LR35 DA20 F28 BAe146, Capt LR35 BAe146 A320

Nathaniel T
Mechanic
20 Years Navy Aviation. A-7E, EP-3B, EA-3D, US-3, C-130, C-2, EA-6B, A-6D, F/A-18
9 years Heavy Structures: 737, 757, 767, 747 2 years Boeing Manufacture Engineering: 747-8F/I

DONALD CERVANTES
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 1500
B19 B55 B33 C152 C172 C182 C210 B35 all PIC

Jennifer Agee
US Air Force veteran
NSU, Tahlequah, OK
SSGT USAF, retired, disabled

Roger L. Coit
Pilot
Total Flight Time: 18,000
Private/Personal, prop,and jet

Peter Roberts
Pilot
Total Flight Time: >6000
IASCO
CE200 F/O, BE300 Captain, BE36 Instructor.



Eyewitness Experts
Aldo Marquis
Craig Ranke
Domenick DiMaggio
ThePentaCon - Citizen Investigation Team

PR Contacts
Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
[email protected]


Researchers

"UnderTow"
15 year Technology Expert
US Researcher
Source: NTSB FOIA .csv file & .fdr file

Calum Douglas
UK Researcher
Source: NTSB FOIA Animation

David Ray Griffin
Emeritus Professor of Philosophy of Religion & Theology
Claremont School of Theology & Claremont Graduate University
Author or editor of some 30 books
"The New Pearl Harbor"
"The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions"
"Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11"
"The American Empire and the Commonwealth of God"
"9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out"
"Debunking 9/11 Debunking:
An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory"
"9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press."
"The New Pearl Harbor - Revisted"

Leslie Landry
Researcher
Forum Moderator

The Cafferty File - 9/11 The Real Story?


The Pentagon 9/11/2001: CNN - Evidence Tampering


9/11 Pentagon Reality Check 16: CNN's JAMIE MCINTYRE


Bush says Explosives were used in the Building..


U.S. Intelligence General says 911 IS an INSIDE JOB


911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB (FORMER FBI CHIEF SAYS)


Lou Dobbs calls for a new investigation of 9/11!


Former Alaska senator and 2008 presidential candidate Mike Gravel


and on and on and on...................



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Black_Fox
reply to post by Califemme
 


I dont believe all those people on your list "are in the know" they are just people doing their everday jobs.
Perhaps people withint hose companies do have questions,but for one reason or another,wont ask.
Maybe out of fear of losing their jobs,or maybe worse,who knows.

And I dont thiink anyone is clearly stating they KNOW who was behind 9/11,which is why there are so many questions.Which is also why there is a need for a new investigation.
But there are many people out there who have asked questions,so you like lists huh?


Yeah, I like lists. I also like evidence, and of all the people on your list, they all have questions, but no evidence?

All those people on your list who want an investigation, all those people doing investigations, and not one name of who is responsible? Nothing? And where are all the people? All those plane passengers had to have been killed, but noone has come forward to say "so and so" killed them all?

I mean, come on, there were only two people in the room with the "blue dress" incident, and that got out, with evidence, but here you have 3,000 dead people, 4 planes missing, a bombed Pentagon and not one eyewitness to name a name?

We have soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan (very, very few by the way, but some nonetheless) who have come out against their brothers in arms to say that crimes were committed against the civilian population, but yet not ONE SINGLE PERSON can name names nine years after the fact?

And I'm the dis-info agent?



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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reply to post by Califemme
 


You a disinfo agent,doubful,more like a person who likes to disrupt things for fun.
You hang out here,and you already have your mind made up.
You are correct,we have no names.
But then again,neither do you,outside of what the media or gov have told you to think.

Evidence?
Well ya,theres enough wholes and unanswered questions to merrit a new investigation.
You have no interest in such a thing,you choose to hold the OS as lock truth.

SO debating you from this point on is non senseable.

I leave you with this though,if were all wrong,and the OS is true,than all we have done is look a fool and wasted alot of time and breath.

BUT if your wrong..............



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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I just typed a long response only to have it disappear

Thanks for posting the video. It did remind me of one critical thing I had forgotten - our system of justice where one is innocent until proven guilty.
When someone can show me the PROOF that Osama Bin Whatchmacallit had anything to do with 9/11 then I will happily believe the OS.
Until then, the 911 Commission report will just remain another wild "conspiracy theory" up for consideration as "the truth".

Black_Fox: while I might agree with your sentiments, posting such a long list constitutes spamming and as such violates T&C. I hope the mods will clean up the mess soon. Thanks.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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"Black_Fox: while I might agree with your sentiments, posting such a long list constitutes spamming and as such violates T&C. I hope the mods will clean up the mess soon"

Spam & mess?
Really?

I thought that only fell into the category of unrelated information.
I posted all that with in the discussion.
So I dont see it as "spamming" and providing my arguement is not a "mess" Thank you



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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CNN Hologram TV First



MORE! INFO
Hologram Theory




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OOoooo YEA. And is a Fact

Holographic projection for military purposes was conceived after the Gulf War of 1991.

More INFO Link

HOLOGRAPHIC PROJECTION
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posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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Yeah, except that more than half of the videos included there are easily debunkable based on angles, camera lighting, and sound travel mechanics. The rest probably just need a little more scrutiny.
That one, with the plane he said clearly had no wings. Guess what? I saw the wings. The lighting on them was the same as in the other videos, but the angle was such that it almost blended in with the tower. Almost.

As for the link, it has no sources and no credible background to it. Ever been to the website about bonzai kitties? It's just as credible.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by HYADEAN2025
 


Yeah, except that more than half of the videos included there are easily debunkable based on angles, camera lighting, and sound travel mechanics. The rest probably just need a little more scrutiny.
That one, with the plane he said clearly had no wings. Guess what? I saw the wings. The lighting on them was the same as in the other videos, but the angle was such that it almost blended in with the tower. Almost.

As for the link, it has no sources and no credible background to it. Ever been to the website about bonzai kitties? It's just as credible.


MY Friend! DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON Airborne Holographic Projector.

Just because your knowledge is low don't mean u Can Do your Own HomeWORK!





Go down to 5.6



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:31 PM
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Once again, I bring forth the FACT that just because something is theoretically possible, doesn't make it the truth. Just because it's theoretically possible that (warning, incoming metaphor) John knocked over the apple, it doesn't mean that the 50 mph winds had nothing to with it.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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Oh yeah, great video. Let's listen to a madman from a third-rate nation whose power is based solely on the public image of standing up to the most powerful nation in the world (and therefore has every reason to challenge the U.S. whenever he can) - let's listen to him, spend 30 million more dollars in our failing economy to have a second investigation into something we already investigated, whereby even if they found that everything was exactly correct in the first investigation, would still cry foul, would still insist there was a conspiracy, would still hold true to whatever belief they had in the first place. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. In fact, let's go ahead and spend money on whatever any other country, no matter how small, has a problem with. If I were president, I would okay that in a second. Good lord, what a ridiculously stupid idea and video.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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reply to post by HYADEAN2025
 


"U a small minded prison "

And you sir,are a rude insulting person.
Its never a good way to get anyone to look into your info.



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