DNA evidence of ET? part 2

Originally posted by evil incarnate

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
If you find something you think is contradictory, point it out as best you can, and ask specific questions.

I will do what I can to clearify the issues.

With all due respect sir, people have been pointing them out on just about every page of this thread. You keep avoiding them all together. K J just posted a whole bunch in a row and you ignored them and just told him that he was trying too hard. I actually want answers so what do I need to do to guarantee you will actually answer them when I point them out? I mean, do you need them one at a time? I do not want to be ignored because I am 'trying too hard.' Thanks!

p.s. You should tell your friend that is starring your posts that starring this particular post only highlights the fact that they are just blindly starring any post with your name on it. That would lead me to believe that this person is only supporting you because they are you, or a buddy and not because of what you are saying. No offense against your posts that deserve a star but this particular response? Really?

[edit on 3/5/10 by evil incarnate]

K J posted a lot of stuff, I beleive most of it was just to cause disruption. However, He did post what he thought were contradictions in a list. I responded to each of them, and pointed out that they were not contradictions at all, and most likely his inability to understand.

Yes, I said he was trying too hard. He isn't attempting discovery here, nor is he trying to expand his mind or learn. Again, he is disrupting, and appearently to prevent valid questions into the dataset this thread was intended to discuss.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Hey Anthra...

Decided to toss my hat back into this thread again for a bit. incidently, good job in keeping at it. One has to admire your consistancy and determination without losing your temper much.

ok...about the proof.

you stated that there are 7 rather decent sized spacecrafts visible 10k kilometers above Dallas that with a telescope can be viewed. This sounds to me like a no brainer to confirm real quick. I imagine theres a few people in Dallas that have a decent and powerful telescope. Are you anywhere near Dallas? This seems more productive than taking shaky dna tests...if you can simply video going to dallas, positioning a telescope of sufficient magnatude into the position of said ships, tthen show on the video (and release the coords) of said objects, then I imagine many would start to listen to you verses split hairs about a test most do not understand to begin with. Take a long weekend off and go vacation in texas...find out from local astronomy groups where to either use or rent out a powerful telescope and just get it done.

I personally would look forward to the video...and if nothing is there, then it might lead you down a different understanding.

Sound like a plan?

I live near Dallas, though I don't own a telescopt. I have though of taking pictures my self, the problem with that is that no matterhow they turn out, posting them almost anywhere will get them "debunked" within the hour. Which, I feel is rightly so. It is too easy to create the kinds of images to show virtually anything on nearly any PC. I have such tools that I used for image and video production before I retired.

The use of DNA is something that is atleast quite a bit harder to fake, and can be verified by almost anyone.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
K J posted a lot of stuff, I beleive most of it was just to cause disruption. However, He did post what he thought were contradictions in a list. I responded to each of them, and pointed out that they were not contradictions at all, and most likely his inability to understand.

Yes, I said he was trying too hard. He isn't attempting discovery here, nor is he trying to expand his mind or learn. Again, he is disrupting, and appearently to prevent valid questions into the dataset this thread was intended to discuss.

You did not answer my question. I can see several contradictions you did not address at all. The ones you dismissed as "his inability to understand" are lacking at best as well. I am just being honest with you about what I am reading in this thread. My question still stands. How can I present them to you and actually get a response, unlike the way you have blown off K J? You ignored a good portion of them and I would really like answers so I am asking ahead of time how I need to present them in order for you to answer me.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

The "story" I heard from my people is a bit different. According to what I heard, my people gave the Greeks the name.

In any case, it matteres little to me what my people call themselves, just as long as its not "late for dinner"

It actually matters quite a bit. The etymology of the word is actually well known and documented. It seems kind of important to me that your people would just happen to have a Greek name. Just as in Futurama, Nibbler turned out to be a Niblonian. What a coinky dink! You are trying to tell us that your people came from light years away and just happened to name themselves after a word from our planet?

Look. As I said, the etymology is there for you to research. This one is too easy. Can you explain to us who it is your people think they gave it to and when? Either you are just talking out of your behind or you actually have some information. 'I think my people gave it to someone' is not really an answer. Who do you think they gave it to and when? Be specific. Please take the time to research the history of the Greek language before you do because it is going to suck to post the real information and make you look like a liar again. So please, before that happens can you explain?

If you say so ... Were you or any you know around then? Were the people who did the original discovery on the Greek language around then? If not, then it is only a "best guess" and likely less probability of being correct than my probability of being ET (by your rules).

Originally posted by antar
Why are there only 7 now 8 flags? I am proud that you have gone public with this at a time when the gov is hunting down DNA for some unknown reason, but all I can say is be safe and watch your back now that you know. Great find, it must be mind boggling, next step, deep meditation to tap in to what you have forgotten and wont find answers to outside yourself.

Very cool man, very cool.

Yes the danger is high, I feel. For example, this level is testing is all I would ever recommend. One of my friends is now "discredited" to the world, with pipolar disorder and meds, and I knew from his posts what it was like for him, from is letters. He is M'Kultra, and compartmentalized. He would talk sometimes in his medicated state, and once in a while in a very clear state, and during those times it would be significant to know, that they really mess with people. His case infuriates me and I care about him and his well being very much. But a memory came out about a medical procedure that revealed some et stuff, and apparently they covered the "loose" ends in that case.
He would disappear and not write to me for ages after those moments occurred when he gained a certain clarity or another compartment had taken over.

The whole thing infuriates me.


Thank you so much for bringing this up.
Sa'l me't ja'ri'n, love and light
XX

[edit on 5-3-2010 by Unity_99]

Ok, so for us slow humans, please just explain a few things. You originally referred to yourself as Galactic Adromedans, then when someone called you Adromedan you corrected them and said that you were Andromds. So, are you Galactic Andromedans or Andromds? Also, you say your people gave the Greeks the word Andromeda in reference to where you came from. Yet, the word Andromeda is a combination of Greek words that already existed. Furthermore, the Andromeda Galaxy was not even discovered until centuries after the Greek Empire had collapsed and when it finally was discovered it was by a Persian. So, how could your people have given a word to the Greeks that they already had in reference to something they didn't know about? Finally, in order for your people to give the Greeks the word they would need to be in contact with them, yet you make it seem like you are the first emissary your people have sent. How is that so and if your people were in contact with Earth then, why did they wait so long to send another messenger?

[edit on 5-3-2010 by Xcalibur254]

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I have a question for you ... seeing that this has been answered like 3 times now.

Just how deliberatily obtuse can a Human get?

Here is a good example. I have read this thread throught about 3 times now and I do not see an answer to this. Maybe you did not understand the question. Let me try and put it another way. You "correceted" K J when he referred to your people as Andromedans. You said that is incorrect, your people are Andromds, not Andromedans. He then posted a quote from you referring to your people as Andromedans. He is asking why you would say that it is incorrect to call you Andromdans when you yourself had already done the same thing. Understand?

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
If you say so ... Were you or any you know around then? Were the people who did the original discovery on the Greek language around then? If not, then it is only a "best guess" and likely less probability of being correct than my probability of being ET (by your rules).

If I say so????????? Refute it! Can you? The history of language is based on verifiable evidence. The existence of ETs at that time or any other so far is not. Just because I was not there does not mean we do not have documented history of the language. Obviously you did not even try to do any research here. Your people just happened to use a word that already existed as part of a language here on Earth. Look into it, you can you know. I am not just saying things that I want to like you are. I am talking about verifiable history. What do you have to offer that is verifiable? Your story does not even make sense.

As was pointed out, the galaxy was discovered by a Persian far after the fall of the Greek empire and was named using two different Greek words. You said that your people gave Greeks the word. It was not a word. It was two words. Care to explain that one again? Can you back it up with anything like I can? So your people came here, gave Greeks a word for a galaxy they would never know about that happened to have a name made up of two existing Greek words. Please explain. You pretty much just blew my inquiry off. Do you really want to tell the truth here or are you just here to entertain?

Originally posted by evil incarnate

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
K J posted a lot of stuff, I beleive most of it was just to cause disruption. However, He did post what he thought were contradictions in a list. I responded to each of them, and pointed out that they were not contradictions at all, and most likely his inability to understand.

Yes, I said he was trying too hard. He isn't attempting discovery here, nor is he trying to expand his mind or learn. Again, he is disrupting, and appearently to prevent valid questions into the dataset this thread was intended to discuss.

You did not answer my question. I can see several contradictions you did not address at all. The ones you dismissed as "his inability to understand" are lacking at best as well. I am just being honest with you about what I am reading in this thread. My question still stands. How can I present them to you and actually get a response, unlike the way you have blown off K J? You ignored a good portion of them and I would really like answers so I am asking ahead of time how I need to present them in order for you to answer me.

Then point them out. Quote what you think is a contradiction. I'll the best I can.

Langauges are pretty interestng, there are many I dont know of, but phoenician/sanskrit, even latin, pre latin, native langauges such as lokat sioux, all containe mysteries. Our languages originally come from ET origin.

[edit on 5-3-2010 by Unity_99]

Originally posted by evil incarnate

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I have a question for you ... seeing that this has been answered like 3 times now.

Just how deliberatily obtuse can a Human get?

Here is a good example. I have read this thread throught about 3 times now and I do not see an answer to this. Maybe you did not understand the question. Let me try and put it another way. You "correceted" K J when he referred to your people as Andromedans. You said that is incorrect, your people are Andromds, not Andromedans. He then posted a quote from you referring to your people as Andromedans. He is asking why you would say that it is incorrect to call you Andromdans when you yourself had already done the same thing. Understand?

Yes ... specific species: Andromd
generic: Galactic Andromedan

Why is that so hard to grasp?

Also, if your people gave the Greeks the word Andromeda, why did they name a fairly minor character in their mythology after your people. You'd think if they encountered a clearly superior race they would at least name a major deity after it. Yet, they chose a woman who needs saving. That doesn't seem right. Also, Andromeda is the Latinized form of the Greek Andromédē. So, if your people gave the word to the Greeks, why is it not used in that form until the Romans come to power?

reply to post by K J Gunderson

If I say so????????? Refute it! Can you? The history of language is based on verifiable evidence. The existence of ETs at that time or any other so far is not.

Since most language originated in pre-history the best you can have now is a "best guess". Thus, your verifiable evidence isn't at all. I'm not saying that it isn't evidence, but it isn't verifiable.

There are those who would argue with you about the evidence of ET visiting Earth in ancient times as well as modern times.

reply to post by Unity_99


Actually they're not. Anyone who has taken an Intro Linguistics course will know that every language can trace their origins to a Proto Indo-European language. It's not hard to trace the evolution of languages over the years. And before you argue that Proto Indo-European was given to us by the ETs, explain the fact that in our brains we have large portions devoted to the processing and production of language. This clearly indicates that we evolved with the ability to communicate in a way similar to how we do now.

Originally posted by antar
Why are there only 7 now 8 flags? I am proud that you have gone public with this at a time when the gov is hunting down DNA for some unknown reason, but all I can say is be safe and watch your back now that you know. Great find, it must be mind boggling, next step, deep meditation to tap in to what you have forgotten and wont find answers to outside yourself.

Very cool man, very cool.

Thank you.

Yes it has been mind boggling, for about the past 40 years.

I do stay safe, though, I have help. 7 starships, a personal security "manager", and my trusty companion ... A 6 year old female 90%+ Wolf. (then there is the 10 years of martial arts).

As for the meditation, I've been doing that for the past 40 or so years, has been of great help.

However, "going public" has been no picnic. It seems that there are many people who say they beleive in ET, beleive ET is visiting Earth, even walking among the Humans. But, when confronted with it, they turn almost violently against the whole idea. As A species, Humans have a long way to come, hopefully, with some help it won't be too hard, nor take too long.

Etharzi od Oma
(Peace and Understanding)

One other thing. I notice that you end some posts with phrases that are Enochian. I'm just wondering whether you are claiming that this is the language of your people or if you just have an interest in the Occult.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
One other thing. I notice that you end some posts with phrases that are Enochian. I'm just wondering whether you are claiming that this is the language of your people or if you just have an interest in the Occult.

I'm mildly impressed, good eye! No, not my peoples language.
I've been na student of Western Ceremonial Magick for the past 40 or so years. Lots of Golden Dawn and Crowley. And, some speciality work with the Enochian System.

I realise my invisibilty cloak is on, hence anthra cannot reply to my questions... But it would be greatly appreciated if someone could copy & paste this to him:

I do stay safe, though, I have help. 7 starships, a personal security "manager", and my trusty companion ... A 6 year old female 90%+ Wolf. (then there is the 10 years of martial arts).

Yes, you post your intentions on multiple websites, freely share personal info about yourself, which includes your current location, locations that you've lived in during the past, your full name, your job, even a picture of yourself... Sooo safety conscious!

7 starships, 100,000 km away.. if someone came and decided to shoot you with a gun then ships are going to be midly useless.
However, as you've said you have a security manager... can you elaborate on this please?

90% wolf? Oh dear me.
Whats the other 10% then?

We arent in the matrix. You are not Neo. Nor are you Jackie Chan.
I could be wrong but I dont think challenging people to a martial arts fight is how they roll down here. If the Government wanted to end you then I think they'd be skillful enough to avoid being karate chopped to death.
Plus you've kind of shot yourself in the foot there anyway, now they'll know you're experienced in martial arts.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Yes ... specific species: Andromd
generic: Galactic Andromedan

Why is that so hard to grasp?

What is so hard to grasp? You have clearly stated that you are not Andromedan. You have stated that is incorrect to call you. Now it is a generic name? This would be a contradiction. I am pointing it out.

It is not an Achille' s heel. It is the name of our species; "Andromd".

I only point this out so that we can be differentiated fromAlex Collier's "Andromedans". Mr. Collier is wrong in calling those he mat be in contact with "Andromedans" since they are not from the Andromeda Galaxy, as we are.

as seen here

You said that "Andromedans" are something different hat Collier was talking about and that is not you because you are an "Andromd."

Care to clarify?

reply to post by evil incarnate


I have more. I mean I have others that I would really like to discuss but from reading this thread so far, I have learned that if I post more you will likely ignore all but one. I still want clarification on this "Andromeda" issue as it makes no sense. Why tell someone not to call you an "Andromedan" because it is wrong when you state that is actually the name of your people? Please respond to the above question so we can move on to the next contradiction sitting right in this thread that you claim you have not seen. Thank you.