FED kills a real life friend (former ATS member & Military Man of 12yrs) - PLEASE help solve this!

"Williams admitted the FBI was premature when it said Tuesday night that Hill died of a single gunshot wound to the head."

Just love how they use the word 'premature' when equally and more accurately they could have used 'lying'. I really hate the cunning use of language to lessen the facts!

Originally posted by electricveins
reply to post by Brainiac

 

The thing is he wasn't suicidal. Remember the OP said Darius had just gotten off the tread mill. Why would a suicidal person be worried about fitness?

This keeps being brought up, and it seems everyone keeps ignoring a glaring fact:

He was on the treadmill when everything was a-ok. He went upstairs, and Feds came in.

Now IF he thought he was screwed with no chance of escape- that could easily bring a person to choose suicide instead of anything else he may have been faced with. Not everyone who commits suicide is suicidal.

Sometimes it's a split second decision, a choice- not a mind set.

Sorry I don't have more to help- but it irked me that everyone is assuming that suicides are not sometimes used as a desperate action- not a depressive result.

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I would seriously look into Remote Viewing to get closure on this one

After doing the scientific remote viewing course I was hitting targets with 100% accuracy

It is a legitimate field if one investigates with an open mind and many books have been written on this topic. RV was used in several classified operations once to locate a downed military plane in Africa and once to locate a kidnapped NATO general. It was so accurate that they even reported on the emotional state of the general at the time

Google Scientific Remove Viewing by Courtney Brown for a free course on this topic or check out one of the well known books by Morehouse, or other well know RV'ers

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by The X
This guy Ex-marine hardcore soldier took an oath to protect the constitution of the United States.

apparently the constitution does not say "dont steal from the government" as twice he admitted stealing...

He admitted stealing yes, but he said he felt he was underrepresented by his attorney and as such did not recieve a fair trial.

He knows he was set up many years ago by the PTB and took the fall for a crime he did not feel he was guilty of,

wrong, he pleaded guilty twice....

If he was outright guilty why did he try to appeal the charges, he admitted fully to the theft of a tractor and did not appeal it so he took what he felt was deserving to him.
The thefts of military property he was not happy with and felt he did not deserve the conviction which he appealed more than once.

whilst gaining control of his computer to see who he is talking too and the nature of his communications.

They could have done that easily without entering his home...

Well that depends on who he was talking to and what cryptography he was using (if any) and not everyone uses mac os or windows, there are versions of linux that are VERY secure and you would need the computer to achieve total penetration.

get in touch with all those ex-spec ops people

except he was not one of those....

Says who? how do you know how well trained he was and what his specialities were?.

Marine spec ops services

reply to post by Atione


You should first hit up James Randi for his $1m, and give it to charity, if you are that accurate. You'd be world famous, and help a lot of needy folks.

reply to post by davesidious


That wouldn't work. What he means is 100% disregarding the misses.
That's just the kind of world remote viewers live in.
I think the Randi challenge would insist on counting the misses too, a concept that is unknown in Remote Viewing.



[edit on 5-2-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]

[edit on 5-2-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]

Alyssa
Shallotte, NC
Reply »|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#42Feb 27, 2008

Great American man my butt. He had a gun, he made the move to point it at them, they feared for their safety and shot him in the chest. He shot himself through the throat after, and they thought he was returning fire so they shot him 6 more times (4 actually hitting him). Only the first two bullets were fatal. And they're the FBI, they can label him whatever they want. They had the proof that it was being distributed from his home, and then he was the one who tried to barricade himself in his room so they couldn't get to him, and then waved the gun around and pointed it to them. He brought it on himself.

source- Topix

This Alyssa on the Topix thread seems like she knows a bit more than anyone else talking, maybe the OP should attempt to contact her?


ETA: from the post two below the one quoted above...it sounds an awful lot like Alyssa is one of Darius's "abandoned kids in another state" that she was referring to earlier.

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reply to post by highlyoriginal



i think that this whole thing is just a big conspiracy/cover up, obviously it wasnt child porn, or m-16's there were bigger things going on that we dont know of

[edit on 2/5/2010 by l neXus l]

Originally posted by l neXus l
reply to post by highlyoriginal

 

i really hope your shenanigans havent put ATS in jeopardy, if this gets traced back to ATS by all your info, and the Govt sees a lot of stuff they dont like we ill get shut down real quick

hope you find what your looking for

"your shenanigans"? "ATS in jeopardy"?
How about governmental/corporate shenanigans putting everyone in jeopardy?

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


That was my point Remote viewing is one of the most ridiculous movements the world has ever seen, which is saying something. If it is so accurate, why the hell hasn't anyone demonstrated it, taken all the money that is on offer for demonstrating it, and helped countless people in the process.

Either they have the ability and are greedy, or they don't have the ability and are misguided.

I know which one is more likely.

reply to post by l neXus l


I don't think ATS has ever discussed anything that any government on the face of the planet would take issue with. I'm sure plenty of posters think they have, but that's another story.

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by NichirasuKenshin

 

That was my point

Remote viewing is one of the most ridiculous movements the world has ever seen, which is saying something. If it is so accurate, why the hell hasn't anyone demonstrated it, taken all the money that is on offer for demonstrating it, and helped countless people in the process.

Either they have the ability and are greedy, or they don't have the ability and are misguided.

I know which one is more likely.

If you were to examine scientific remote viewing a little you would find that it's not even close to 100% accurate and most practitioners would not claim so except in deference to the inaccuracies inherent in the process. Sometimes you initiate a session and get nothing, other times you initiate a session and get very accurate results. The negative results don't negate the positive results...except when a million dollars is on the line.

reply to post by Tamale_214


Of course the negative results negate the positive ones, otherwise you never know if it's working or not.

Remote viewing is rubbish. No one has ever demonstrated that it's worked even once.

reply to post by Tamale_214


Thank you for proving my point:

Remote Viewers can only hold on to their worldview when they discard the scientific method and only count the hits, not the misses.

In the real world negatives cancel out positives. That's just how it works - there's several thousand years of reasons to stick with it.

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


I'm sorry that you misunderstood me.

I say that I can hit a home-run 100% of the time that I swing and hit. I get up to bat and and I swing and hit 50% of the time. Each time I swing and hit, I hit a home-run. I can now accurately say that I've got a 100% accuracy for hitting home-runs when I hit the ball as I've not made any claims about hitting a home-run when I swing and miss.

regards,
tamale

reply to post by Tamale_214


Well thanks for proving my point, again. Have a good day!

Originally posted by NichirasuKenshin
reply to post by Tamale_214

 

Well thanks for proving my point, again. Have a good day!

LOL. Friend, my logic is sound; but since we clearly will get nowhere in this discussion you have a good day as well.

regards.
tamale

Originally posted by DreamerOracle
There is only one completely unrefutable fact in this thread.......
A man cannot shoot himself five times and put the last one in his mouth. so the question is reguardless of the character profile of the victim or any would be crimes.
The crime could be how this played out from the minute the FBI entered the building. You ever watched a raid? It is well planned no calmly walking up the stairs and talking with the suspect.
It starts by clearing the house with weapons drawn, then room to room. they don't go in for a chat.
Just thought I'd point out the obvious or do they do it differently in the US. Here the surround the house break down the door early in the morning clearing the house as they go weapons drawn.
If this were a movie it would indeed come accross as a quiet assasination. Maybe the Agents on the ground are not part of the internet side of the FBI and underestimated the power of the web.
I truly don't know....... It seems very strange. The Police are jailed here for unauthorized use of firearms that includes the higher eschalons of our government.

I agree it looks as if it was a setup of some kind and the feds had to stage a suicide, but there is a small, very very small chance that the suspect Mr. Hill shot himself at the exact time that the officers opened fire, explaining the six shots... Or at least thats what the agents will be saying!

Also, it wasn't a raid, they were serving a warrant. I am no expert on the difference between the two but, there is prob some considerable differences.

I think this case is fishy as hell and feel so so sorry for the family of this man! But, as many others have said, this sounds like a lost cause for the Hills as the high authorities have all the power and all the so called "credibility", as in, it's there word against, well no ones in this case, as the victim/ suspect is unfortunately gone.

reply to post by NoFilter2323


If they wanted to make it look like he killed himself, we wouldn't be discussing FBI agents. There wouldn't have been a uniformed agent within miles of him if that was the case.

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
Some topics I can add right now to the list about things he talked about...

-Roswell, NM
-Dulce NM
-old school music
-into weapons
-german history
-WW2 politics
-huge conservative
-hated John Carey
-hated Clinton and other liberals
-Like Glenn Beck
-Sean Hannity
(sorry for misspellings I'm just typing fast here as I'm being updated)

I haven't read the entire thread.. I might set aside some time to look into this as I seem to have a knack for cross referencing. If there is anything else that you can think of to add that'd be good. Even what kind of art/graphics he liked could be helpful (ex. what was his screen saver or fave poster). If we are able to narrow down what threads he may have posted in we might be able to guess at what kind of avatar he had.

Silly idea maybe but nothing ventured etc.

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